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Old August 7th, 2014, 12:57 AM   #1401
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NYguy link to Mr. Putzier article on MW "intrusion"

Konrad Putzier/REW story originally posted by NYguy on SSP:

http://www.rew-online.com/2014/08/06...new-manhattan/

Lone office building a grey area for Brookfield as giant presses ahead with building a new Manhattan

This is the "intrusion" (424 W.33rd), which fronts on 33rd Street, east of 450 W. 33rd (aka AP HQ bldg aka 5 MW):

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Old August 7th, 2014, 03:17 PM   #1402
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Konrad Putzier/REW story originally posted by NYguy on SSP:

http://www.rew-online.com/2014/08/06...new-manhattan/

Lone office building a grey area for Brookfield as giant presses ahead with building a new Manhattan

This is the "intrusion" (424 W.33rd), which fronts on 33rd Street, east of 450 W. 33rd (aka AP HQ bldg aka 5 MW):
Why not just offer them an extended lease for space in one of the new developments in exchange for the land?
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Old August 7th, 2014, 04:57 PM   #1403
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Because it's the owner of the building, not the tenants, that is holding out. They want to be the leaser not the lessee.

I use to go to Frame on the ground floor of this building all the time. The parking lot next door became a staging area for launcher equipment, so I always tried to sneak a glimpse of the action. A worker inspecting the facade recently fell to his death from the roof.
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Old August 8th, 2014, 12:53 AM   #1404
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Because it's the owner of the building, not the tenants, that is holding out. They want to be the leaser not the lessee.

I use to go to Frame on the ground floor of this building all the time. The parking lot next door became a staging area for launcher equipment, so I always tried to sneak a glimpse of the action. A worker inspecting the facade recently fell to his death from the roof.
cafe Frame & worker death: did not know that.
I've used that lot between this bldg & the AP bldg to shoot photos through the gate...
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Old August 8th, 2014, 03:22 AM   #1405
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i work in that building, the headquarters of planned parenthood of america

don't expect anything to happen here
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Old August 8th, 2014, 03:32 AM   #1406
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i work in that building, the headquarters of planned parenthood of america

don't expect anything to happen here
Wow!

Not intended as an insult, but that did seem like a non-descript building.

Will the opening-early-2015 7 subway 34th street station make your commute easier?
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Wow!

Not intended as an insult, but that did seem like a non-descript building.

Will the opening-early-2015 7 subway 34th street station make your commute easier?
i live within walking distance, always a treat not to have to commute anywhere

and yeah, the building is a piece of crap, inside and out,
but from the conversations around the office, it's a matter of principle now, so don't know if there was an offer by brookfield, but refused, because they were expecting a king's ransom for it?? also, got quite a bit of air rights too

very poorly run place,

wish that the "vibration alarm" malfunctions one of these days
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Old August 8th, 2014, 09:33 PM   #1408
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Span 9! Over halfway there!


Manhattan West FB page

Seriously though, whoever is running their social media needs to up their game. The MW Facebook page has 62 likes, vs Hudson Yards' 15493...
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Old August 8th, 2014, 10:00 PM   #1409
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This is moving along quickly now.
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Old August 9th, 2014, 01:52 AM   #1410
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This is moving along quickly now.
But still, AFAIK, w/o explanation of what they will do with Amtrak's "E" yard - top right of photo above (NW corner of 31st & 9th).

Maybe nothing?? Just build columns between the E yard tracks to support the eastern side of the South office tower?
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Old August 9th, 2014, 01:57 AM   #1411
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That's what I'd reckon the plan is, but who knows? There are some really odd-looking structures built up over there. Jacko5? You know what the plan is?
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Old August 10th, 2014, 10:07 PM   #1412
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~half way to no sunlight from North Bergen to Sunnyside

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That's what I'd reckon the plan is, but who knows? There are some really odd-looking structures built up over there. Jacko5? You know what the plan is?
The odd-looking structures have to follow the fanout of the tracks from under the MW platform to the Penn Station platforms.

But yes, jacko5: what the plan?

PS: By the time Phase I of Moynihan station is finished (2016), the only light visible on the Penn Station platforms or the expanded West End concourse will be artificial...

In memory of that I have posted this recent Corey Best photo of the soon-to-be-extinguished view (looking north) from the Penn Station bathtub:


Corey Best "New York Portal Construction" 7/30/2014
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Old August 11th, 2014, 02:59 PM   #1413
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i wouldnt expect any action on the south tower for a while. Residential (sw), then northeast.
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Old August 11th, 2014, 06:14 PM   #1414
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Re: Five Manhattan West

R/GA Media Signs On to Five Manhattan West

First Lease Signed at the Tower Since Brookfield Unveiled Its Plans for the Property at 450 W. 33rd St. in February

http://online.wsj.com/articles/r-ga-...est-1407725978



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Brookfield has signed a lease with a digital advertising firm to take a large swath of space at Five Manhattan West, a deal the company said reflected growing momentum for its planned campus of office and residential towers on the far West Side.

R/GA Media Group Inc. will take 173,000 square feet, moving its offices to the entire 12th floor and part of the 11th floor of the building, Brookfield said. The lease is the first signed at the tower since February, when Brookfield unveiled plans for a $200 million overhaul of the 1969 structure at 450 W. 33rd St.

R/GA, a subsidiary of the Interpublic Group of Cos., didn't return requests for comments.

Brookfield officials declined to discuss financial details, but the range of asking rents at the building has risen from the high $60s earlier this year to levels between $78 and $80 a square foot, said Jeremiah Larkin, executive vice president and director of leasing for Brookfield.

"This will be the newest neighborhood where you can live, work and play, and people are recognizing that," he said. "Rents continue to rise, so tenants are jumping on it."

The 1.8-million-square-foot building has about 300,000 to 350,000 square feet of space available with serious interest from potential tenants for almost all of it, Mr. Larkin said. Brookfield acquired the 16-story tower in 2011 and plans to give it a new, glass exterior and unobstructed floor-to-ceiling windows.

The building will be incorporated into Brookfield's planned 7-million-square-foot campus called Manhattan West. That complex will have a residential tower, two office buildings, a hotel and 200,000 square feet of retail space. Two acres of landscaped public space will sit at the center of the campus. A significant piece of the project is a platform Brookfield has been constructing over part of the rail yards west of Penn Station using technology usually employed for building bridges.

Brookfield is one of several developers with plans to build on Manhattan's far West Side and transform the area with shopping, offices, residences and hotels. Hudson Yards, the Related Cos. venture, includes more than 17 million square feet of commercial and residential buildings and 14 acres of public open space.

The "epicenter" of Manhattan's office market "is beginning to shift to Midtown West, Midtown South and Downtown," said Bruce E. Mosler, chairman of Cushman & Wakefield Inc.'s global brokerage and part of the team representing Brookfield. That movement largely has been driven by tenants such as R/GA in the technology, advertising, media and information-related business sectors, Mr. Mosler said.

Tenants in these industries accounted for about 22% to 23% of Manhattan's office space compared with 30% for those in the financial services, as of the first half of the year, said Ken McCarthy, Cushman & Wakefield's senior managing director of economic analysis and forecasting.

Brookfield won't begin construction of its office towers in the Manhattan West project until it finds anchor tenants. But Mr. Mosler expects the makeover of Five Manhattan West to boost that effort.

"This gives tremendous credibility to the project overall because it speaks to the quality of what Brookfield is building," he said.
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Old August 12th, 2014, 09:06 PM   #1415
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More schist, shear studs, etc,

NYguy over @ SSP found this recent, somewhat technical, article on the platform design & construction in a publication called "the construction specifier, The Official Magazine of CSI"

http://www.constructionspecifier.com...west-platform/

The photos are old, but good resolution and are taken for a construction industry viewpoint. An example is this photo, showing workers placing sheer studs in the spans:


The above photo illustrates the installation of shear studs and conduit for the precast platform bonded diaphragm concrete topping at the Manhattan site.
Photos courtesy Entuitive
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Old August 15th, 2014, 06:09 AM   #1416
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Great article.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 07:17 PM   #1417
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Nice photo of section being placed

Photo by tweweiz, August 19th. Looking southeast from a building on 34th?

Captures the hold out building nicely lit up and shows how far west the platform has gotten.

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https://twitter.com/tweewiz/status/5...285377/photo/1

tweewiz also captures the roof of one of the old 33rd street buildings that make this area interesting. This building is across the street from MW & the holdout building.
The photo below shows the front of this building which is some king of religious structure that existed when Penn Station was being built in the 190Xs:

8.14.2014, looking NW from 33rd st, west of 9th Ave.


8.14.2014
I hope the winter won't be bad:

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Old August 21st, 2014, 09:32 PM   #1418
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BIG NEWS!!! SKADDEN TO MANHATTAN WEST! BUT FOR WHICH TOWER???

EXCLUSIVE: Developer scores major tenant for $4.5 billion mega-project on far west side of Manhattan

Law firm Skadden has inked a letter of intent to move to Brookfield Properties' Manhattan West

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...#ixzz3B3J0WHBf


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One developer's risky bet on the far west side of Manhattan is already paying off.

Brookfield Properties, a development company building a $4.5 billion office and residential mega-project on five acres between Ninth and Tenth avenues in the West 30s, has secured a major tenant for the project, sources told the Daily News.

Law giant Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, has committed to relocating its global headquarters to the project, known as Manhattan West, once its lease expires at 4 Times Sq. in 2020. Sources say the firm has inked a letter of intent to lease more than 500,000 square feet, making the deal one of the biggest of the year so far.

The deal is a major coup for Brookfield, which has been competing with a string of other developers for large-scale tenants such as Skadden. Big tenants are also being wooed for the World Trade Center, for instance, and for the nearby Hudson Yards megaproject, a $20 billion residential and commercial development comprising 16 skyscrapers at the site of the West Side rail yard.

Developer the Moinian Group also needs to sign an anchor tenant for a tower its planning at 3 Hudson Blvd., at 34th Street and Eleventh Ave., before it can go ahead with construction.

Sources said it was oddly early for Skadden to commit to a new building, since its lease does not expire for another six years, but it’s possible that Brookfield might buy Skadden out of its remaining lease in Times Sq. once it’s ready for the firm to move in.

Rents at Manhattan West range from about $75 to $80 per square foot, brokers said.

Skadden is the second major tenant to depart 4 Times Sq., following Conde Nast's decision to relocate to the Financial District from the tower. The Durst Organization, the owner of 4 Times Sq., will be now left with an empty building and six years to fill it.

Spokespersons for Skadden and Brookfield did not immediately return requests for comment.
Since Skadden Lease is up in 2020, that gives enough time to start and complete 1 or 2 Manhattan West tower by then.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 09:47 PM   #1419
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excellent news. I assume that they'll be anchoring 1 Manhattan West, which is the only office tower on the MW webpage (other than 450 w 33rd) being advertised at 67 stories and 2 million SF

http://www.manhattanwestnyc.com/cont...est-29593.html

things are still far off though. That's just a guess.
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Old August 21st, 2014, 10:08 PM   #1420
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agree!

It's definitely not 450 W 33rd, because After R/GA signed a lease a couple weeks ago... the remaining space available in 450W33 is aprox 350,000 sq ft left to fill for full occupancy.
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