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Old September 7th, 2014, 08:24 PM   #1461
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What's that ??? Don't tell me they are going put tower together like lego bricks?
this is precast parts of the future platform. trust - there are way bigger ones there as well. these are relatively small.
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Old September 8th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #1462
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Is anyone planning on going down by the site anytime soon? I would love to see some construction photos And im guessing there are about 10 spans up by now? Correct me if im wrong
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Old September 8th, 2014, 11:30 PM   #1463
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I'll be down there next Tuesday hopefully!
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Old September 8th, 2014, 11:35 PM   #1464
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there are a lot of new skyscraper projects in New York
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Old September 10th, 2014, 09:08 PM   #1465
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Aerial shot from last month posted on Curbed today. It's looking quite platformy.


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Old September 10th, 2014, 09:17 PM   #1466
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In other news, naysayer Lois Weiss has some news of her own RE: 5 MW. She also seems to concede that there was at least some modicum of truth to the Skadden Arps rumor.

Chase Digital Media eyes lease at Manhattan West
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September 10, 2014 | 9:44am

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The West Side is on a roll with Related Cos. completing its deal with Neiman Marcus and Manhattan West negotiating with Skadden Arps and other tenants.

Now there is even more positive momentum for Brookfield’s Manhattan West in Midtown. While the big kahuna, JPMorgan Chase, hasn’t inked a lease yet for Manhattan West or anything else, the bank’s digital arm is eyeing a move to the tech-oriented building 5 Manhattan West, also known as 450 W. 33rd St.

Lawyers for Chase Digital Media, which handles the bank’s Web and mobile business, have a 150,000 square-foot lease in their hands.

The huge squat building is being renovated with larger windows and hovers over the platform being installed to cover the Amtrak rails into Penn Station.

This multipart concrete platform will allow the creation of Manhattan West’s four new towers.

JPMorgan is known to be seeking a new modern home of its own through Peter Riguardi, tri-state president of JLL. Bruce Mosler heads the Cushman & Wakefield team representing Brookfield.

Availabilities in the 1,742,194 square-foot building include the 11th and 12th floors, a total of 222,037 square feet, and the single massive third floor of 138,905 square feet, according to CoStar, the commercial real estate data tracker.

Riguardi also reps Skadden Arps, which is exploring a big move to a new tower at Manhattan West that could incorporate back-office spaces at No. 450.

None of the parties responded to requests for comment.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 10:22 PM   #1467
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I'll be down there next Tuesday hopefully!
Awesome! have fun
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Old September 11th, 2014, 12:17 AM   #1468
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"11 of the platform's 16 spans have been laid"

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Aerial shot from last month posted on Curbed today. It's looking quite platformy.


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"As of now, 11 of the platform's 16 spans have been laid, and it is on track to be completed by the end of the year. "
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...ere_a_bird.php
Same image/credits w/180 degree rotation to align with zoning diagram below. Image includes only east wall of 450W. 33rd (aka 405 W. 33rd St. in Map 1 at bottom):


A visual reminder of what MW (including 450 W33rd aka 5MW) will look like zoning wise. Appendix B update date 4/29/2014 is in screencap. Connecting the "Tenth Ave. Podium" aerially with the High Line 10th Ave spur (north side of 30th) would be "interesting".


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Old September 15th, 2014, 08:23 AM   #1469
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I took this on August 11, 2014. IMG_6001 by DesignerVoodooNYC, on Flickr
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Old September 15th, 2014, 01:39 PM   #1470
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I thought for a moment that there is a gap in between 2 spans but that is just a walk way?
The size of these spans is just incredible.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 01:50 PM   #1471
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Permits Filed: 1 Manhattan West Will Stand 995 Feet Tall

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While specifics surrounding the platform covering the former pit under Brookfield’s Manhattan West are exquisitely explained in various informational videos, details regarding the actual office towers have been harder to come by. Now, per a new building filing at the DOB, YIMBY can bring the latest word on 401 Ninth Avenue, which — at just a hair over 300 meters — will officially rank as a supertall.

The 69-story building will stand 995 feet to its pinnacle, with interiors spanning 1,644,660 square feet. While the total size is not surprising, the floor-count is roughly the same as the shorter residential tower that will rise around the corner. The height discrepancy comes from the larger ceilings for the office tower, which will house Class-A space.

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Old September 17th, 2014, 03:02 PM   #1472
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This tower will be only 1.644m sf? I thought that it was to be 2m sf Perhaps this us the smaller of the two and extra air rights will be transferred elsewhere.

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Old September 17th, 2014, 03:29 PM   #1473
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That is good news! Yes 1 Manhattan West would be the shorter tower, the North tower in the site. Both towers have been reported in the past to have 2msf each, therefore possibly now 2 Manhattan gets the rest and will be much taller.

Add another supertall to the Yards & most definitely another one with 2 MW! Cheers
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Old September 17th, 2014, 05:40 PM   #1474
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I agree. If the smaller tower is 995', the larger one should be around 1,300.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 06:14 PM   #1475
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Old September 17th, 2014, 06:34 PM   #1476
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I guess the plan was always to build the smaller, 1.6m sf tower first.


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FOUR TOWERS NEAR FARLEY
BROOKFIELD STILL NEEDS ANCHOR

March 14, 2007

BROOKFIELD Properties is readying plans for four towers totaling 4.7 million feet at the rear of the Farley Post Office on the west side of Ninth Avenue between 31st and 33rd streets.

"It will be an awesome location," Ric Clark, Brookfield's CEO, said at the Young Men's and Women's Real Estate Association luncheon yesterday.

Clark said plans call for the east end of the plot to host two office towers sharing 4 million square feet while the west end will have two residential towers totaling 700,000 feet.

They hope to kick off marketing the northern office tower of 1.6 million square feet within the next few weeks, for delivery in late 2010. That process will begin with the sharing of new renderings now being prepared by Skidmore Owings Merrill.

While there's no anchor tenant yet, Clark said Brookfield is in discussions with "all the usual suspects" and expects rents to start in the $80 range.

Would they break ground without an anchor tenant? "Never say never," Clark said. "But we would need to know the Moynihan Train Station was going forward."

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Old September 18th, 2014, 05:16 AM   #1477
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found this. Never seen this rendering. Info is outdated. Think it was apart of the MW leasing brochure.
link brought me here: http://union.us.com/content/manhattan-west-ipad-app

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Old September 18th, 2014, 08:47 AM   #1478
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^ The renderings on the walls around the site show twin buildings. That has long since changed to towers of unequal height.
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I agree. If the smaller tower is 995', the larger one should be around 1,300.
Nice. Thought for a moment they reduced the height.

If the smaller one has 1.6M sqft and the total is 4.7M, that would make the 2nd tower very large.
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I agree! It appears that they're reverting to the initial plan of two towers of unequal size. 995' is pretty tall for a 1.6m sf tower, so the 2.5m sf tower should be very tall.

It remains to be seen if Brookfield will keep the curved, beer belly shapes or go with something different.

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