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Old January 15th, 2015, 05:52 AM   #1621
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So shouldn't this be in the under construction section now?
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Old January 15th, 2015, 06:27 AM   #1622
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The Bank of China is managing the finances? That sounds about right given that half of the apartments will probably be sold to Chinese investors.
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Old January 15th, 2015, 02:25 PM   #1623
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So shouldn't this be in the under construction section now?
The residential tower is the 662' in the skyscrapers section, not these supertalls. And no U/C status without visible caissons
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Old January 15th, 2015, 04:09 PM   #1624
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The Bank of China is managing the finances? That sounds about right given that half of the apartments will probably be sold to Chinese investors.
Not in this part of town. Ain't the High Rent District by a longshot.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 08:20 PM   #1625
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Brookfield’s first Manhattan West office tower will cost $2.1B to develop:
filing 2 million-square-foot building to have 100k sf of retail

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/01/....TinyIjCO.dpuf



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One Manhattan West – the northernmost of a pair of office towers set to rise as part of Brookfield’s 5.4 million-square-foot, mixed-use megaproject on the Far West Side – will cost $2.1 billion to develop, according to an application the real estate investment trust’s filed with the New York City Industrial Development Agency, the financing arm of the New York City Economic Development Corp.

The figure includes hard and soft costs such as construction and marketing, as well as the price paid for land.

The Skidmore, Owings and Merrill-designed tower at Ninth Avenue and 33rd Street will span two million square feet, 100,000 of which will be set aside for retail.

The IDA will hold a hearing early next month to consider Brookfield’s application to make certain payments in lieu of property taxes, though the dollar figure of such payments was not immediately clear. Representatives for the REIT weren’t available for comment.

Other developers in the Hudson Yards neighborhood have applied for the same financial benefits for their multimillion-square-foot real estate proposals, and in the process have revealed telling information about the projects.

In July, Tishman Speyer put a $3.2 billion price tag on the 61-story office tower it is planning for the corner of 10th Avenue and 34th Street, as The Real Deal reported, and in December, the Moinian Group said it will cost $1.6 billion to develop its 1.7 million-square-foot office property at 11th Avenue.

Brookfield finished work on the concrete platform capping the Penn Station rail yards under its site in November, marking a major milestone for the project. Soon after, the developer filed an application to purchase $93 million worth of bonus building rights for 3 Manhattan West, the 62-story residential tower planned at the southern end of the campus.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 08:14 PM   #1626
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I can barely wait to see the office towers rise. Should be an awesome sight.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 08:34 PM   #1627
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Brookfield’s first Manhattan West office tower will cost $2.1B to develop:
filing 2 million-square-foot building to have 100k sf of retail
Wow, 100,000 s.f. of retail for just that one tower is great. Let's just hope that it's well-activated at the street and plaza levels -- as this new render for 3 MW shows, the southern street level edge of the complex appears to be completely isolated from the elevated plaza:



If they do figure this out properly though, and find a way to facilitate easy foot traffic between the levels (maybe some of the retail will function as an atrium staircase/throughway?) this should become a bustling pedestrian zone.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 02:05 AM   #1628
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is this hudson yard or is it totally different project
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 02:31 AM   #1629
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Wow, 100,000 s.f. of retail for just that one tower is great. Let's just hope that it's well-activated at the street and plaza levels -- as this new render for 3 MW shows, the southern street level edge of the complex appears to be completely isolated from the elevated plaza:



If they do figure this out properly though, and find a way to facilitate easy foot traffic between the levels (maybe some of the retail will function as an atrium staircase/throughway?) this should become a bustling pedestrian zone.
I'm surprised that they went with hard edges since it does not go with the rounded corners and beer belly of the office tower.

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Old January 23rd, 2015, 03:16 AM   #1630
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is this hudson yard or is it totally different project
It's different from Related's Hudson Yards project, which includes 10, 15, 30, 35, 50 and 55 HY, plus the mall and the Phase II project over the western rail yards This project is by Brookfield. However (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong), this does fall within the special "Hudson Yards" district, which is a broader general term for the area of the far west side that's been rezoned for redevelopment. It also includes the other sites north of 30th including 3 Hudson Blvd./The Girasole, Tishman Speyer's "Hudson Spire," McCourt's development, Silverstein's supertall residential, and several others.

Confusing, I know. But exciting nonetheless!

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I'm surprised that they went with hard edges since it does not go with rounded corners and beer belly of the office tower.
Agreed. The residential tower meshes more with 5 MW and the Related office towers than it does with the "beer bellies." They could swap designs with 15 HY and everything would be a little better in tune.

But who knows, maybe the MW office towers will look substantially different from what we've seen after all.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 04:34 AM   #1631
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Cant wait for this to be built.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 05:24 AM   #1632
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I'm surprised that they went with hard edges since it does not go with the rounded corners and beer belly of the office tower.
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Cant wait for this to be built.
This has started already!!!
Excavation is down close to 20 feet as of yesterday.


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Old January 23rd, 2015, 05:39 AM   #1633
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I'm surprised that they went with hard edges since it does not go with the rounded corners and beer belly of the office tower.
I see that resi tower as a hedge against the office market as well as the cost of building the other towers. This is where they're cutting corners (with sharp corners) while plumping the site with retail tenants. It's a throwaway design for a cash cow.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 03:42 AM   #1634
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Moinian, Brookfield Get Hudson Yards Tax Abatements Totaling $180M
http://commercialobserver.com/2015/0...totaling-180m/

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The Moinian Group and Brookfield Properties today got approval from the New York City Industrial Development Agency, or NYCIDA, to receive tax abatement benefits for their respective Hudson Yards developments.

Moinian received the benefits at 3 Hudson Boulevard, a 1.8-million-square-foot mixed-use tower spanning a full city block north of Hudson Yards and across the street from the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center. Brookfield secured the benefits for its 2-million-square-foot Manhattan West, at 401 Ninth Avenue, according to a spokesman for the city’s Economic Development Corporation, which staffs NYCIDA.

Moinian’s project is expected to cost $1.6 billion and Brookfield’s is slated to cost $2 billion, according to IDA documents. Moinian will be getting a $65 million tax exemption and is expected to generate $691 million in tax and other gross revenue over a 25-year period while Brookfield will be getting a tax break of $115 million in exchange for generating $856.9 million in benefits to the city.

At 3 Hudson Boulevard, FX Fowle Design has designed an 1,050-foot, 66-story building, between West 34th and West 35th Streets and 11th Avenue and Hudson Boulevard West. There will be 18,900 square feet of retail on the ground floor and then office space up to floor 46, according to building marketing materials. There will be a residential lobby and amenities on the 48th floor and residences on 49 to 63. There will be a sky club on the 66th floor.

“Under the terms of the process, Moinian has one calendar year from the date of approval to close with the NYCIDA, through an internal process and review, demonstrating that Moinian has procured sufficient financing to proceed with full construction of 3 Hudson Boulevard,” a spokesman for Moinian emailed. “After passing financing review, Moinian would then obtain a minimum 25 percent tax abatement on approximately 1.5 million square feet of commercial space.”

Brookfield’s project at 401 Ninth Avenue is proposed for the northeast corner of Brookfield’s five-acre Manhattan West and fronts West 33rd Street and Ninth Avenue. It will be 70 stories, with retail on the bottom floors and office space above, the NYCIDA documents show. Brookfield did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Since January 2002, NYCIDA has closed more than 330 transactions, drawing $11.8 billion in private investment to the city and helping to retain or create more than 103,000 jobs.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 05:27 AM   #1635
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Agreed. The residential tower meshes more with 5 MW and the Related office towers than it does with the "beer bellies.
Anything that meshes well with 5 MW has a serious design problem
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Old February 12th, 2015, 03:43 AM   #1636
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I hope these buildings stay twins and 70 stories sounds good

NY will once again have supertall twin towers
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Old February 12th, 2015, 04:12 AM   #1637
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I'm amazed that Skadden is moving to this dump.

Brookfield must have given them a colossal deal in order to get the ball rolling.

For those not from NY, the MW site is next to the white tenements on the south corner of the photo.


This Drek is on the north side of 34th and 9th.



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Old February 12th, 2015, 05:25 AM   #1638
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it's all about the future. Hudson Yards, the 7 Extension and Moynihan Station will bring new life (and money) to the area.
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Old February 12th, 2015, 05:40 AM   #1639
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Yes. But one block over in the HY will be magnificent in a few years, 9th will be great in 20 years.

Anyway....

NYC Department of Buildings
Application Details
Premises: 401 9 AVENUE MANHATTAN Job No: 140306032
BIN: 1800650 Block: 729 Lot: 60 Document: 01 OF 1
Job Type: A2 - ALTERATION TYPE 2

Document Overview Items Required Virtual Job Folder All Permits Schedule B
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This job is not subject to the Department's Development Challenge Process. For any issues, please contact the relevant borough office.

This job is under review; documents cannot be submitted at this time
Last Action: APPLICATION ASSIGNED TO PLAN EXAMINER 01/29/2015 (F)

Pre-Filed: 01/29/2015 Building Type: Other Estimated Total Cost: $2,000.00
Date Filed: 01/29/2015 Electronically Filed: Yes : Hub Full-Service
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Job Description Comments

1 Location Information (Filed At)
House No(s): 401 Street Name: 9TH AVENUE
Borough: Manhattan Block: 729 Lot: 60 BIN: 1800650 CB No: 104
Work on Floor(s): SC1,CEL,ROF 001 thru 069 Apt/Condo No(s): Zip Code: 10001

2 Applicant of Record Information
Name: DONALD MONGITORE
Business Name: JAROS BAUM & BOLLES CONSULTING Business Phone: 212-530-9353
Business Address: 80 PINE STREET 12TH FLOOR NEW YORK NY 10005 Business Fax:
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I'm amazed that Skadden is moving to this dump.

Brookfield must have given them a colossal deal in order to get the ball rolling.

For those not from NY, the MW site is next to the white tenements on the south corner of the photo.


This Drek is on the north side of 34th and 9th.



I am starting to WORRY about the future of this area when the dump-era becomes a thing of the past!
When will that drive-thru McDonald's serve it's last BiGMac (I assume they still sell BigMacs).

Anyway, Uarkson posted a good photo of the views from One Pen Plaza that will be blocked when the various MW towers start rising. I'm guestimating that the under construction 10 HY will be blocked along with 5 MW/450 W 33rd St Both buildings are in the background, just to the left of the large old building on right.

Looking SW from the NE corner of 33rd & 8th.

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