Eileen House | Elephant & Castle | 134m | 41 fl | Pro

SELondoner · February 22nd, 2008, 09:25 PM

News reaches me of a new tower proposed in Elephant & Castle, which would make three towers around this height together with the two towers undergoing groundworks now (Strata and the First Base Tower), all of them outside of the main E&C masterplan. The tower would be residential with a 6-storey podium building, replacing the 1960s low-rise Eileen House in Newington Causeway, about 50 m north of the main E&C roundabout.

The developer is Oakmayne Properties, who are also active in the area with the Oakmayne Plaza scheme on the site of the old Castle Estate on New Kent Road http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=469892.

Afraid I can't provide many details but the tower is rectagular in plan but tapering over the top few floors to provide a slightly more interesting shape. A public consultation was held recently although I can't see any details online except this reference http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/83278/page=1

Early days though, could change radically between now and any application.

mulattokid · February 22nd, 2008, 10:31 PM

I wait with baited breathe...and so does the little blue eyed boy slung around my neck!

***Medo*** · February 23rd, 2008, 12:16 AM

Judging by the name of this tower an apt design would be of a slanting tower.

london lad · February 24th, 2008, 05:30 PM

Found this bit of news in relation to it ( over a year old). Slightly dreading that A&M are the architects.

http://www.oakmayneproperties.com/do...e_jan_8_06.pdf

Theres also this file showing potential development sites outside the main E&C zone.
http://www.southwark.co.uk/uploads/file_32548.pdf

fitz44 · April 13th, 2008, 09:00 PM

Oh well. I was passing. Actually it's not all bad, neat window proportions, blue/grey brick panels just squat and awkward looking is all.

Manuel · April 14th, 2008, 12:14 AM

Shame, this building looks well maintained and quite interesting

NothingBetterToDo · April 14th, 2008, 12:18 AM

The problem with so many 1960's/70's office buildings like this one, is not so much to tower sections, it's their horrid podiums - they are always so ugly and add absolutely nothing to street level.

Who ever thought bare brick walls, or slity, blacked out little window 3 meters above ground looked good???

SELondoner · April 29th, 2008, 11:12 PM

Some more information is available online in an EIA scoping report, which is planning application 08/AP/0687:

http://planningonline.southwarksites...ts/16070_1.pdf

The key points are:

47 storey mainly residential tower of 143m (146.5m AOD)
8 storey building for mainly educational use, 35m (37.5m AOD)

london lad · May 1st, 2008, 10:55 PM

Looks like there should soon be another 140m+ for the E&C. So 3 towers on the periphery of the main E&C regeneration area. LendLease & the rest of the consortium hinted at another 4 towers for the main development so that could turn into quite a cluster.

london lad · May 5th, 2008, 02:35 PM

Did some research on this.

Developers are Oakmayne- One of the principal developers in E&C.

[IMG]http://i30.************/29o4ltw.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i27.************/2qm2rf4.jpg[/IMG]

Its on a designated site for tall buildings. Also the main LendLease, Oakmayne, Firstbase development in the centre of E&C is due in for planning early 2009.

***wjfox*** · May 5th, 2008, 02:48 PM

Oh, the SE1 forumers are going to love this*... especially those who live in Metro Central Heights.

* (sarcasm)

london lad · May 5th, 2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjfox

Oh, the SE1 forumers are going to love this*... especially those who live in Metro Central Heights.

* (sarcasm)

Lol- dont tell em then. Ignorance is bliss. BTW isn't one of the main moaners about tall developments someone that owns one of the penthouses in Central Heights.

***wjfox*** · May 5th, 2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by london lad

BTW isn't one of the main moaners about tall developments someone that owns one of the penthouses in Central Heights.

Yes, her view of the West End will effectively be cut off now. She was furious about the Vantage Tower, and that was only 50m. I dread to think how she'll react to this...

***wjfox*** · May 6th, 2008, 08:50 AM

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/83278/page=2

"Not NIMBYism, just cautious about the proportions in Newington Causeway. It's HUGE. Too huge, as far as I'm concerned. It wont have that much impact on me personally but that isnt the point."

Noostairz · May 6th, 2008, 09:24 AM

***gothicform*** · May 6th, 2008, 02:55 PM

stupid woman has enough money to afford a penthouse but not enough intelligence to make sure if her views will remain.

Mikey · May 6th, 2008, 08:35 PM

what a funny forum

Will is getting a bashing from more than one person...

Newcastle Guy · May 10th, 2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by london lad

Did some research on this.

Developers are Oakmayne- One of the principal developers in E&C.

[IMG]http://i30.************/29o4ltw.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i27.************/2qm2rf4.jpg[/IMG]

Its on a designated site for tall buildings. Also the main LendLease, Oakmayne, Firstbase development in the centre of E&C is due in for planning early 2009.

Whoo! I like this, looking at that pic anyway. It is totally different to the other two, and together they will be the start of a very impressive cluster.

randolph · May 10th, 2008, 09:55 AM

Don't like this one much - looks rather 1980s.

london lad · May 10th, 2008, 10:43 AM

Bigger image here

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?...000000014c85e6

February 22nd, 2008, 09:25 PM	#1
SELondoner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 622 Likes (Received): 4	Eileen House \| Elephant & Castle \| 134m \| 41 fl \| Pro News reaches me of a new tower proposed in Elephant & Castle, which would make three towers around this height together with the two towers undergoing groundworks now (Strata and the First Base Tower), all of them outside of the main E&C masterplan. The tower would be residential with a 6-storey podium building, replacing the 1960s low-rise Eileen House in Newington Causeway, about 50 m north of the main E&C roundabout. The developer is Oakmayne Properties, who are also active in the area with the Oakmayne Plaza scheme on the site of the old Castle Estate on New Kent Road http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=469892. Afraid I can't provide many details but the tower is rectagular in plan but tapering over the top few floors to provide a slightly more interesting shape. A public consultation was held recently although I can't see any details online except this reference http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/83278/page=1 Early days though, could change radically between now and any application. Last edited by SELondoner; February 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 PM.

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NothingBetterToDo Better To Do Nothing Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 10,499 Likes (Received): 2	The problem with so many 1960's/70's office buildings like this one, is not so much to tower sections, it's their horrid podiums - they are always so ugly and add absolutely nothing to street level. Who ever thought bare brick walls, or slity, blacked out little window 3 meters above ground looked good??? __________________ My Pictures: London - Amsterdam - Copenhagen - Berlin - Oslo - Bergen - Prague - Dublin

February 23rd, 2008, 12:16 AM	#3
*Medo* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 18,361 Likes (Received): 174	Judging by the name of this tower an apt design would be of a slanting tower.

February 24th, 2008, 05:30 PM	#4
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,188 Likes (Received): 80	Found this bit of news in relation to it ( over a year old). Slightly dreading that A&M are the architects. http://www.oakmayneproperties.com/do...e_jan_8_06.pdf Theres also this file showing potential development sites outside the main E&C zone. http://www.southwark.co.uk/uploads/file_32548.pdf

April 29th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#8
SELondoner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 622 Likes (Received): 4	Some more information is available online in an EIA scoping report, which is planning application 08/AP/0687: http://planningonline.southwarksites...ts/16070_1.pdf The key points are: 47 storey mainly residential tower of 143m (146.5m AOD) 8 storey building for mainly educational use, 35m (37.5m AOD)

May 1st, 2008, 10:55 PM	#9
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,188 Likes (Received): 80	Looks like there should soon be another 140m+ for the E&C. So 3 towers on the periphery of the main E&C regeneration area. LendLease & the rest of the consortium hinted at another 4 towers for the main development so that could turn into quite a cluster.

May 5th, 2008, 02:35 PM	#10
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,188 Likes (Received): 80	Did some research on this. Developers are Oakmayne- One of the principal developers in E&C. [IMG]http://i30.**********/29o4ltw.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i27.**********/2qm2rf4.jpg[/IMG] Its on a designated site for tall buildings. Also the main LendLease, Oakmayne, Firstbase development in the centre of E&C is due in for planning early 2009.

May 5th, 2008, 02:48 PM	#11
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 35,751 Likes (Received): 1210	Oh, the SE1 forumers are going to love this... especially those who live in Metro Central Heights. (sarcasm)

May 6th, 2008, 08:50 AM	#14
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 35,751 Likes (Received): 1210	http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/83278/page=2 "Not NIMBYism, just cautious about the proportions in Newington Causeway. It's HUGE. Too huge, as far as I'm concerned. It wont have that much impact on me personally but that isnt the point."

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*gothicform* Bossman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: not london Posts: 29,280 Likes (Received): 559	stupid woman has enough money to afford a penthouse but not enough intelligence to make sure if her views will remain.

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