Shanghai Waterfront's Makeover - Page 9

***NCT*** · March 3rd, 2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the spliff fairy

I think if you had a metro on the Bund it would be overrun by people, akin to Nanjing Rd. Like the article says if it reaches over 800,000 rather than the current 300,000 they will have to close parts down.

The same with the Eiffel Tower or Buckingham Palace - no direct metros so the crowds are spread out more. Actually come to think about it all the biggest attractions in London are not direct - British Museum, Tate Modern, London Eye, National Gallery,Tower Bridge.

The Bund isn't really just a single tourist attraction - it's actually a financial centre which theoretically needs good railway connections. Size-wise it's by no means shorter than Oxford Street and really needs at least stations (at Nanjing Road and Yan'an Road for example) each served by 2 perpendicular lines. The biggest pain is travelling between Lujiazui and the Bund. But alas technical challenges pretty much negates all aspirations for the Bund to be directly accessible by the Metro network. The best compromise would be to ensure really good bus links and ferry lines.

***hkskyline*** · March 8th, 2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCT

The Bund isn't really just a single tourist attraction - it's actually a financial centre which theoretically needs good railway connections. Size-wise it's by no means shorter than Oxford Street and really needs at least stations (at Nanjing Road and Yan'an Road for example) each served by 2 perpendicular lines. The biggest pain is travelling between Lujiazui and the Bund. But alas technical challenges pretty much negates all aspirations for the Bund to be directly accessible by the Metro network. The best compromise would be to ensure really good bus links and ferry lines.

Yes .. if they could dig another tunnel across the river ... and not make it a sightseeing tourist trap!

staff · March 8th, 2010, 04:16 PM

I'm really excited to see the final result!

The Chemist · March 9th, 2010, 06:13 AM

Wow, that's looking really great. I'll probably be there on opening day to check it out.

OtAkAw · March 14th, 2010, 11:27 AM

Good job Shanghai! This is how waterfronts should be made!

aodili · March 14th, 2010, 09:12 PM

March 14 by aharden at Flickr
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image hosted on flickr

oliver999 · March 15th, 2010, 08:45 AM

12 lanes cut to 6 lanes,the platform maybe need a bit more greenery.

***hkskyline*** · March 15th, 2010, 05:39 PM

Agreed! Part of the promenade can house some large trees.

***ikops*** · March 15th, 2010, 11:48 PM

Hmmm, yes, it looks kind of greyish right now.

staff · March 15th, 2010, 11:51 PM

That might have something to do with the fact that the weather is absolute shit on those photos (and like it always is during this time of year in Shanghai).

***ikops*** · March 16th, 2010, 01:30 PM

I wasn't talking about the weather, I already took that into account. I wouldn't want to be unfair. It's just that there seems to be a lack of trees (I only see a couple of them just next to the road) and green in general.

Slartibartfas · March 16th, 2010, 11:08 PM

What is located below the elevated waterfront platform?

foxmulder · March 17th, 2010, 07:25 AM

It looks like a stadium stand to watch Pudong skyline

aodili · March 18th, 2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

What is located below the elevated waterfront platform?

That is a good question - the platform seems to be hollow according to the design from Chan Krieger (http://www.chankrieger.com/projects/ud/bund/bund.html)

staff · March 18th, 2010, 12:40 PM

Previously there was retail space in that "wall".

Slartibartfas · March 18th, 2010, 01:28 PM

Retail or even gastronomy would make a lot of sense. I guess there is a reason why "the wall" exists, maybe for flood protection or something similar? But I think they make more of an barrier out of it from the street side than necessary. Why not more and broader stairs, making the higher and the lower level much more connected with each other?

staff · March 18th, 2010, 01:51 PM

It is difficult to make out, but it might look like they are preparing for store fronts here:

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Scion · March 18th, 2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

I guess there is a reason why "the wall" exists, maybe for flood protection or something similar?

Yep. From Wikipedia.

"Further east is a tall levee, constructed in the 1990s to ward off flood waters. The construction of this high wall has dramatically changed the appearance of the Bund."

So I guess they are using the same dimensions/specifications for this levee/wall this time around

***z0rg*** · March 18th, 2010, 02:00 PM

Such a huge change, incredible.

aodili · March 22nd, 2010, 05:07 PM

March 21 by Micah Sittig at Flickr
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image hosted on flickr

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March 14th, 2010, 11:27 AM	#165
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March 15th, 2010, 11:48 PM	#169
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March 16th, 2010, 01:30 PM	#171
*ikops* Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Den Haag Posts: 5,935 Likes (Received): 133	I wasn't talking about the weather, I already took that into account. I wouldn't want to be unfair. It's just that there seems to be a lack of trees (I only see a couple of them just next to the road) and green in general.

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March 17th, 2010, 07:25 AM	#173
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March 18th, 2010, 12:40 PM	#175
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March 18th, 2010, 01:28 PM	#176
Slartibartfas Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stadlnova Posts: 6,506 Likes (Received): 263	Retail or even gastronomy would make a lot of sense. I guess there is a reason why "the wall" exists, maybe for flood protection or something similar? But I think they make more of an barrier out of it from the street side than necessary. Why not more and broader stairs, making the higher and the lower level much more connected with each other? __________________ "All European states are small. The difference is between those who know it and those who don’t."

March 18th, 2010, 01:51 PM	#177
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