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Old January 13th, 2009, 12:00 AM   #201
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They just put a crazy golf course near there, not sure what else they'd be doing!
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Old January 13th, 2009, 12:37 AM   #202
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Hotel.
Probably in the hotel thread somewhere.

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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...83&page=26#512
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Old January 13th, 2009, 12:55 AM   #203
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Nah Longy, that hotel's for Jcn 9 roundabout.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 01:06 AM   #204
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They just put a crazy golf course near there, not sure what else they'd be doing!
Chogmook, the crazygolf is indoors near the dome. For my sins, its actually pretty good!
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Old January 13th, 2009, 07:42 AM   #205
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Aye, but there's actually an outdoor 9-hole one next to Playgolf now too! Seaside-resort sty-lee!

http://www.manchestergolf.co.uk/champminigolf.php

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Old January 13th, 2009, 08:46 AM   #206
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Can anyone describe the location and extent of Peel's land bank in and around Greater Manchester?
This site pretty much describes it and explains Peel's vision.
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Old January 16th, 2009, 02:40 AM   #207
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You could see this coming from a mile away!

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4:20 pm, January 15, 2009
Peel applauds new runway and terminal at Heathrow
By James Chapelard


Manchester-based Peel Airports has today welcomed the government’s decision to support a new runway and terminal at London Heathrow airport.

The Peel Holdings-owned group, which owns Liverpool John Lennon airport, Durham Tees Valley Airport and Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport, said it believes the extra capacity created will encourage airlines to create more feeder flights from regional airports to Heathrow.

It said it supported the project because it would add connectivity to Liverpool, which currently has no air link to the capital.

Neil Pakey, deputy chief executive of Peel Airports, said: “We are naturally pleased that the government has listened to what many in the regions have been saying about the strategic importance that an expanded Heathrow can bring. However, it is essential that if the third runway is developed, access from airports such as Liverpool is safeguarded to further open up Heathrow’s tremendous worldwide access, improving the competitiveness of this region.”

Opponents of the third runway say it will have a massive detrimental impact on the environment and say a high speed rail link to Manchester would end the need for passengers to fly domestic routes from the North West, therefore freeing up slots at the busy airport.

Comments? jchapelard@crain.com

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That really isn't a good sign.
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Old January 16th, 2009, 11:06 PM   #208
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Brilliant day for Peel.

Extra capacity at Heathrow and millions of public funding pumped into road schemes to the west of Manchester, raising the value of their land bank considerably, I'd have thought.

All this on the back of successfully torpedoing the biggest single investment in the city's public transport in generations.

They'll be cock-a-hoop in the Peel Dome tonight!




What all this means for the government's transport policy, the government's aspiration for sustainable communities and fostering sustainable economic growth is anyone's guess.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 08:07 PM   #209
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New road plan for Trafford Centre

A new highway is being planned to ease congestion near to the Trafford Centre in Greater Manchester.

The road, which would run parallel with the M60 motorway and across the Manchester Ship Canal, has been proposed by developers Peel Holdings.

Trafford Council is due to hold a planning meeting next month to decide whether the road can be built.

The highway, which is projected to cost about £25m, would be delivered in stages over several years.

The Western Gateway Infrastructure Scheme (WGIS) near to Barton Bridge would segregate traffic between "through" and local movements.

The section of the M60 it would be built next to is one of the busiest sections of the motorway network, with about 140,000 vehicles using it each day.

The new canal crossing and local feeder roads would also open up access to the Trafford Bus Station at the Trafford Centre without the need to use the motorway, a spokesman for Peel Holdings said.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 11:54 PM   #210
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I can think of a better way to ease congestion around the Trafford Centre.
It involves a small thermo-nuclear device.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 12:07 AM   #211
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Full article and map regarding the proposals in this weeks Crains. As soon as i find my scanner disk/software I will scan and upload the article. I'll scan the spinningfields article as well which I promised last week. The BBC article forgot to mention a new swing bridge.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 12:13 AM   #212
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That 'article' is copied almost word for word from the Ocean Gateway website

http://www.oceangateway.com/content/...rngateway.html
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Old January 27th, 2009, 02:56 AM   #213
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Has anyone else heard about the Boulevard of Heroes which Peel are proposing. Sounds interesting but then again its Peel I don't trust them much.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 08:33 PM   #214
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Boulevard of Heroes (!?!?!)

Depends on who is choosing said heroes.

Id imagine this version would feature Ayn Rand, Thatcher and various global warming denial merchants.

First didnt someone post a qoute saying Peel disputed that the Traffic cnetre created congestion.

Second how long is this new road for £25m? I am sure its about the same as the £28m per mile for the Met to the Triffid centre.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 08:46 PM   #215
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Crains Article:

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New road may spark Barton boom
Peel's scheme to ease M60 bottleneck is back on after five-year delay
By James Chapelard
January 26, 2009

A long-awaited scheme to ease the notorious bottleneck at Barton Bridge on the M60 may soon get the go ahead from planners.

The £25m Western Gateway Infrastructure Scheme would open up large tracts of land for development in Barton Moss, where access is currently restricted.

The scheme, involving changes to the M60 and a new bridge across the Manchester ship canal, was first put forward almost five years ago but held up by the Highways Agency.

In recent weeks the Highways Agency took the decision to back the scheme and the application will now be considered by Trafford Metropolitan Borough Council.

Because of the scale of the planning application, Trafford's planning committee will receive a full private briefing from officers on the plan this Wednesday. A decision is expected on February 12.

The scheme involves the building and widening of new roads to link a string of Peel properties: the Trafford Centre, the proposed Salford City Reds stadium adjacent to Barton Bridge, the proposed £100m Port Salford multi-modal freight terminal and City Airport Manchester, formerly Barton Aerodrome, where it hopes to attract more commercial flights.

Under the scheme a swing bridge will be built adjacent to Barton Bridge while new roads will run to the Trafford Centre and underneath the bridge to the site of the proposed £35m Red City Stadium, due for completion in 2010.

Peel said the new swing bridge would separate through traffic and local traffic and reduce congestion on Barton Bridge. The project involves the closure of some motorway slip roads and new connections to the orbital road and to the A57 at junction 11 of the M60.

The scheme is also designed to carry a proposed extension to the proposed Metrolink network from Trafford Park over the canal into Salford, which would be funded by Peel.

Peel said the scheme would facilitate the “further development of strategic sites” on either side of the canal. Peel said: “This is one of the largest motorway-related schemes in the north of England and the most complex and largest funded by the private sector. Barton Bridge and the adjacent sections of the M60 is one of the busiest sections of the motorway network, with around 140,000 vehicles per day, and the complications of very closely spaced junctions and a high mix of local movements.”

Peel said the changes would improve the flow of traffic on the motorway, with less local traffic and slip road interference, increase junction capacity and make the Trafford Centre bus station accessible without the need to use the motorway.

The plan is part of Peel's wider Ocean Gateway scheme, a series of developments the entire length of the Manchester Ship Canal between Liverpool and Manchester which Peel claims will bring jobs, investment and environmental improvements.

Massive growth
Richard Critchley, Greater Manchester Chamber of Commerce's transport, environment and planning policy manager, said: “Over the past few years, this area of Trafford/Salford has seen massive growth and the creation of hundreds of new jobs. However, the local motorway network has now become one of the busiest sections of motorway in the country.

“In order to support the existing and ongoing development of this area, including the proposed Port Salford and Salford City Reds Stadium, it is vital that the local road network is upgraded to cope with projected demands.

“The proposed infrastructure improvements are therefore hugely welcome, helping to ease congestion and improve access to the fantastic facilities and huge number of opportunities available in this area.”
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Old January 27th, 2009, 08:51 PM   #216
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Old January 27th, 2009, 09:02 PM   #217
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"The scheme is also designed to carry a proposed extension to the proposed Metrolink network from Trafford Park over the canal into Salford, which would be funded by Peel."

What?!! So the swing bridge will accommodate both car lanes and Metrolink lines?
I guess that this will future proof the line so that if the Trafford centre line gets built, it will probably now have another 4/5 stops on it after the TC: Trafford Quays (new Peel residential project for 3500 homes), Leisure Village (Chill Factor, Playgolf etc), Salford Reds stadium, City Airport and then maybe the Port Salford or the racecourse.

If the line does get built it makes sense for them to try and connect up the rest of the properties and if they are building a bridge over the ship canal; they may as well build it so it can cope with Metrolink now (rather than later at higher cost). Hopefully as conditions for Trafford Quays etc they are made to fund the whole bloody line, but I'm not hopeful.

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Old January 27th, 2009, 09:13 PM   #218
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Has anyone else heard about the Boulevard of Heroes which Peel are proposing. Sounds interesting but then again its Peel I don't trust them much.
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...Secondly the Boulevard of Heroes – the Manchester equivalent of Wembley Way will be a significant public realm project allowing a physical and visual linkage from Lancashire Cricket Club to the Quays down Sir Matt Busby Way. This will tie together some of the strongest brands within the North West, which will allow the City Region to benefit from these on a national and international stage. The boulevard will be pedestrian dominated during match days and events but be flexible enough to allow vehicle traffic at other times...
Plan from the proposed Irwell City Park Scheme:



I'm sure there were some other renders of this knocking about?

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Old January 27th, 2009, 09:16 PM   #219
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Problem: too many cars travelling to a concentrated area bereft of public transport choices.
Solution: build more roads so more cars can come into the area.

Steven Hawking need not lose sleep that the genius who thunk this one up is challenging him for 'Cleverest Person' mantle.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 12:18 AM   #220
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mmm... interesting.

First looks like SCS is still alive n kickin and port salford.

What looks even more interesting is the thickening of the road near barton aerodrome... does Peel think it still build Mancs second airport.

On another note... a row of terraced houses have been boarded up between the motorway and Trafford centre for a while now.

whats peel doing with them?
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