Peel

[Metr0l1nk]

Originally Posted by thecityofgold

I think that sums it up for me. It's all about revenue generation and very little about reducing congestion.

Thankfully you will be aware that the legislation surrounding TIF means that any revenue generated is kept locally, and doesn't go to Whitehall - about the only way we can raise money locally, good isn't it?

Are you not one of the people who would approve of local powers to raise money, as opposed to having to going crawling to Whitehall everytime you want to spend a penny? If so, surely this is right up your street?

[bank street]

Originally Posted by Chogmook

I think a blockade of the Trafford Centre should be organised by the yes camp. Give 'em a taste of what's to come if Peel get their way.

That would be a fantastic PR stunt for the Yes campaign... and seriously piss off Peel... organise for a load of yes campaigners to form a sort of road block by arranging for hundreds of people to turn up at the Trafford Centre in their cars and basically 'gridlock' the whole area for a period of time. Shouldn't be too hard considering how congested it gets around there at rush hour(s) and during weekend for shopping, especially now we are in the run up to Christmas.

This would get loads of publicity for the yes campaign and might swing a few people in the "Not-Sure" camp because they will have been given an example of what’s to come if growing congestion on the roads fails to be dealt with - whilst being thoroughly pissed off about being stuck in car parks or slip roads for ages... "not putting up with this... lets vote yes"

Hmmmm…

[spoonsbeatfish]

Originally Posted by bank street

That would be a fantastic PR stunt for the Yes campaign... and seriously piss off Peel... organise for a load of yes campaigners to form a sort of road block by arranging for hundreds of people to turn up at the Trafford Centre in their cars and basically 'gridlock' the whole area for a period of time. Shouldn't be too hard considering how congested it gets around there at rush hour(s) and during weekend for shopping, especially now we are in the run up to Christmas.

This would get loads of publicity for the yes campaign and might swing a few people in the "Not-Sure" camp because they will have been given an example of what’s to come if growing congestion on the roads fails to be dealt with - whilst being thoroughly pissed off about being stuck in car parks or slip roads for ages... "not putting up with this... lets vote yes"

Hmmmm…

If I had a car up here, I would be seriously interested in doing that. Just keep driving around in circles at peak hour on a Saturday and just read a book sat in traffic. Not advertise it in advance or people may not go on that day to avoid problems but would also counteract congestion.

Apart from agreeing with the great publicity stunt, would be great to do something to piss off Peel.

[Metr0l1nk]

I'd also be up for it, however, would have to be very very careful not to alientate large number of the population by doing some direct action.

Look at the fuel protesters, they managed to get on the nerves of large amounts of the population back in 2001.

[Chogmook]

Beeping horns may also make people notice, say a set time, once everyone is in place for the 'blockade'!

Be frigging loud in the lower car parks!!

[jrb]

Peel vote no ad watch. Another huge ad on the side of the Venus building opposite the Trafford Centre. If anyone knows the building the ad is on the inside of the window where the stairs are located. You can't miss it.

[jets9]

Originally Posted by Chogmook

I think a blockade of the Trafford Centre should be organised by the yes camp. Give 'em a taste of what's to come if Peel get their way.

Oh yesss! Hope that goes ahead.....anything which boosts publicity for the referendum and increases public awareness (boosts the overall turnout) is absolutly necessary. The bigger the turnout, the bigger the NO majority and another nail in the coffin of the inevitable panoply of excuses of why the whole miserable tax raising illiberal scheme has collapsed

ps. with a bit of extra luck the whole thing can be traced back to the labour party........

[Metr0l1nk]

ah, the forum fool is back, and STILL not answering the questions.

So then jets, if we do not get the proposed transport improvements why will you not agree to advocating national scheme?
After you, from what you are saying their is no chance that we will not get those improvements, and you will never ever have to advocate such a scheme.

Now do your usual trick of avoiding the question, as you have not got the intelligence to back up your opinions.

Put up or shut up. The fact is you are incapable of backing up your own views, typical of the No's.

[CDX]

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[Chorley Boi]

class.. is that the actually mr whittaker or the firm's MD

[GanEden]

Originally Posted by Metr0l1nk

According to many over on Red Issue they are acting like right twats, threatening local residents and by-passing the normal democratic process, but hey, this is Peel who do exactly as they want, fr their own benefit, not giving a shit about anyone else.

Hope there entire business crashes and burns in the recession, capatilism at it's absolute worst, with no care for people, just the bottom line.

I know its all QT from Salford Reds.

[Metr0l1nk]

QT???

[jrb]

What really, really, frustrates me about this whole episode is Peel's involvement. We all know why they're behind the No campaign. There's no need to go into that. But it's safe to say TIF would have sailed through without the involvement of John Whittaker and Peel.

How's congestion and public transport on the Isle of Man tax haven John?

In terms of the taxation benefits of investing or incorporating in the Isle of Man, they are impressive and manifold. There are no capital gains taxes, turnover taxes or capital transfer taxes and there is no stamp duty. There is VAT and income tax however but the latter is levied at a maximum rate of 18% and the government are reducing this rate of tax all the time. The current lowest rate of tax has been reduced recently to just 10% and a plan is in place to remove the income tax burden on corporations to zero over the next four years.

The Isle of Man is one of the first jurisdictions worldwide to begin implementing sophisticated offshore ecommerce legislation for businesses wishing to move all or some of their ecommerce operations out of the scope of high taxation.

That's my boy!!!

[rolybling]

he's got the sort of face you'd want to slap

[The Longford]

He who casts no shadow!

[rolybling]

LMAO!!

[jrb]

Cough!

Peel Holdings' who operate the toll charging Manchester Ship Canal, paid for originally by public subscription; the toll-charging Barton, Liverpool and other airports, ditto; and even the Barton Swing Bridge which actually charges funeral corteges to cross; well they have some brilliant friends don't they?

http://chrispaul-labouroflove.blogsp...on-charge.html

[jrb]

Administrator sells Salford stadium land to Peel
By James Chapelard


Peel Holdings and Salford City Reds Ltd today reaffirmed their commitment to building a £30m stadium at Barton.

The companies issued a joint statement saying they would continue to work together to build the project, which is due for completion in 2010.

Earlier this year, a joint venture development firm controlled by the pair, Redcity Development Ltd, was taken into administration after one of its shareholders, Steven Kirby, had his assets frozen and was unable to pump anymore money into the projects.

Administrators Begbies Traynor today confirmed that the piece of land on which the stadium is to be built, off the M60, had been sold to Peel. Begbies Traynor said that following the land sale, Redcity Developments had no other assets and would now be dissolved.

It’s unclear what stake either Peel Holdings or Salford City Reds will now have in the new project, but the club said control of the development land had now passed to Peel, which it described as “the club’s preferred developer partner.”

A spokeswoman for the club said: “The Reds are due to move into their new home in 2010 and with the might of Peel Holdings and the city of Salford now firmly behind them are keen to stress that the development is very much alive, despite several hold-ups and the credit crunch.”

Reds’ chairman John Wilkinson said: “This is great news for the club and its fans and means we can now continue with our exciting plans. Our new home will be among the best in the country, and we will not falter in any way to compromise on that quality simply to speed things up.

“We are grateful to our developer partners Peel Holdings who have certainly gone the extra mile to deliver the land bank back into the development. Peel has shown a great commitment and energy to the development and we are indebted to them for their help during this crucial period.

“We are in hard times and while we acknowledge that the development is certainly taking a great deal of time and effort to finalise, it will get off the ground albeit later than we would have liked.”

Peel Holdings property director Mike Butterworth said: “We look forward to and are committed to delivering the quality stadium that the city, the club and their supporters deserve. While it has been a long drawn out process for all concerned, we are now finally in a position to move forward and create a deliverable vision that will meet and exceed the expectations of all parties.”

The revised plans for the city’s £30m stadium will be announced as early as possible in the New Year, the club said.

[CDX]

Here are some more bright ideas...correction 1 idea from Peel

UK Trademarks for Peel Advertising Ltd
Fideau

More profit from the Ship Canal resources???

[Chorley Boi]

I love how this nation loves to knock a success and moan and whinge when it's gone. Whittaker has created thousands jobs around the region, the best thing for shoppers in the North West since ever in the Trafford centre, turned Liverpool airport into a major concern and has been fundamental in the re-development of the Salford Quays and hopefully the ship canal.

The Peel empire as you call it has developed a sustainable source of energy in the Scout moor project and has brought in investment from around the planet.

Yes Peel's decisions may not meet yours but without him i do not Manchester would be the second city it is today.

By the way i support TIF!