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Old April 25th, 2008, 07:36 PM   #21
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The list in this thread is the GDP at nominal exchange rate not at PPP. For thailand, the GDP was 200 billion in 2005 and in metro Bangkok, perhaps around 80-90 billions. The list does not seem to have an error as far as Bangkok is concerned.
No, the list stated clearly that it used PPP not nominal, and Bangkok's GDP (PPP) as of 2005 is US$220 billion. The list used nominal instead of (PPP) in Bangkok case which make me wonder why.

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Old April 25th, 2008, 07:40 PM   #22
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Rank City/Urban area Country Est GDP in 2020 in US$bn Est annual growth 2005-2020

2020 GDP PPP

Above US$bn 1,000

1 Tokyo Japan 1602 2.00%
2 New York USA 1561 2.20%

Above US$bn 500

4 London UK 708 3.00%
6 Paris France 611 1.90%

Above US$bn 400

9 Osaka/Kobe Japan 430 1.60%
14 Hong Kong China 407 3.50%

Above US$bn 300

16 Shanghai China 360 6.50%
17 Seoul South Korea 349 3.20%
24 Mumbai India 300 6.00%

Above US$bn 200

27 Istanbul Turkey 287 5.20%
29 Beijing China 259 6.60%
30 Metro Manila Philippines 257 5.90%
33 Jakarta Indonesia 253 6.50%
34 Delhi India 229 6.20%
36 Guangzhou China 227 6.90%
38 Kolkata India 224 5.90%
40 Singapore Singapore 218 3.60%

Above US$bn 100

46 Bangkok Thailand 180 4.80%
49 Tehran Iran 172 4.50%
50 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 167 5.00%
51 Pusan South Korea 165 3.80%
66 Karachi Pakistan 127 5.80%
67 Dhaka Bangladesh 126 6.10%
74 Tianjin China 112 6.30%
75 Jiddah Saudi Arabia 111 4.80%
76 Bangalore India 110 6.20%

Above US$bn 90

78 Ho Chi Min City Vietnam 98 6.50%
80 Wuhan China 96 6.40%
81 Fukuoka Japan 96 2.00%
83 Hyderabad India 92 6.10%
84 Chennai India 91 6.00%

Above US$bn 80

87 Ankara Turkey 87 5.00%
88 Chongqing China 87 6.30%

Above US$bn 70

94 Ahmadabad India 78 6.20%
97 Pune India 76 6.30%
103 Hanoi Vietnam 73 6.60%

Above US$bn 60

104 Bandung Indonesia 69 6.70%
107 Shenyang China 68 6.30%
109 Lahore Pakistan 67 5.90%
114 Izmir Turkey 62 4.90%

Above US$bn 50

119 Surat India 57 6.50%
123 Chengdu China 51 6.30%

Above US$bn 40

128 Xian China 48 6.40%
130 Taegu South Korea 45 1.90%
132 Changchun China 42 6.90%
133 Kanpur India 41 6.30%

Above US$bn 30

135 Baghdad Iraq 39 4.00%
136 Chittagong Bangladesh 39 6.30%
137 Jaipur India 38 6.40%
139 Lucknow India 35 6.30%
140 Yangon Burma 33 4.80%

Above US$bn 20

143 Faisalabad Pakistan 24 6.00%
145 Kabul Afghanistan 22 6.10%

Above US$bn 10

151 Pyongyang North Korea 13 1.50%

http://www.citymayors.com/statistics...ties-2020.html
Bangkok's GDP (PPP) is US$220 billion in 2005. Why it dropped to US$180 billion in 2020?

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Old April 27th, 2008, 02:21 PM   #23
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PPP and nominal GDPs are two different things.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 11:19 AM   #24
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Nominal and PPP are different dude
one takes into account of monetary changes eg inflation REAL
one is its nominal value
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Old April 28th, 2008, 07:04 PM   #25
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Yes, I know. However, the list used PPP to every other cities, but only used nominal in Bangkok case. They should also used PPP for Bangkok's GDP too. If you take a look at the list clearly, you will know what I'm talking about.

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New York, Paris and London added for comparison.

2005 GDP PPP

Rank City/Urban area Country GDP in US$bn

Above US$bn 1,000

1 Tokyo Japan 1191
2 New York USA 1133

Above US$bn 400

5 Paris France 460
6 London UK 452

Above US$bn 300

7 Osaka/Kobe Japan 341

Above US$bn 200

14 Hong Kong China 244
20 Seoul South Korea 218

Above US$bn 100

32 Shanghai China 139
34 Istanbul Turkey 133
36 Singapore Singapore 129
37 Mumbai India 126
42 Metro Manila Philippines 108

Above US$bn 90

44 Beijing China 99
46 Jakarta Indonesia 98
48 Pusan South Korea 95
49 Kolkata India 94
51 Delhi India 93
52 Tel Aviv-Jaffa Israel 92

Above US$bn 80

55 Bangkok Thailand 89 (this is nominal not PPP)
56 Tehran Iran 88
60 Guangzhou China 84
62 Riyadh Saudi Arabia 80

Above US$bn 70

72 Fukuoka Japan 72

Above US$bn 50

80 Jiddah Saudi Arabia 55
81 Karachi Pakistan 55
82 Dhaka Bangladesh 52

Above US$bn 40

87 Tianjin China 45
88 Bangalore India 45
94 Ankara Turkey 42

Above US$bn 30

104 Wuhan China 38
105 Chennai India 38
106 Ho Chi Min City Vietnam 38
107 Hyderabad India 38
110 Chongqing China 35
113 Taegu South Korea 34
115 Ahmadabad India 32
117 Izmir Turkey 31
119 Pune India 30

Above US$bn 20

122 Lahore Pakistan 28
124 Hanoi Vietnam 28
125 Shenyang China 27
128 Bandung Indonesia 26
131 Surat India 22
132 Baghdad Iraq 22
133 Chengdu China 21
134 Xian China 19

Above US$bn 10

135 Kanpur India 17
136 Yangon Burma 16
137 Chittagong Bangladesh 16
138 Changchun China 15
139 Jaipur India 15
140 Lucknow India 14
143 Pyongyang North Korea 10
144 Faisalabad Pakistan 10

Below US$bn 10

147 Kabul Afghanistan 9
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Old April 29th, 2008, 01:10 AM   #26
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Actually I think that this list uses Nominal GDP figures for Pakistani cities too. As in 2005 the GDP PPP of Pakistan was $384.9 billion (CIA WorldFactbook 2005 est). Karachi contributes 25% of Pakistan's GDP so that way Karachi's GDP PPP should have been US$bn 96 and not US$bn 55. Similarly, Lahore contributes almost 13% (12.75%) of the GDP, so its figure should have been US$ 49bn and not US$bn 28. In the same way, Faisalabad has 4.55% of the economy so its GDP PPP should have been US$bn 17.5 and not just US$bn 10.
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2005 GDP PPP

Rank City/Urban area Country GDP in US$bn

Above US$bn 50
81 Karachi Pakistan 55

Above US$bn 20

122 Lahore Pakistan 28

Above US$bn 10
144 Faisalabad Pakistan 10

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Old April 30th, 2008, 02:14 AM   #27
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But the list used PPP for other cities such as Metro Manila. I don't understand why the list used PPP for some cities but used nominal for other cities. Why not used PPP for every cities in the list since it stated on the top that it used PPP?
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 08:57 PM   #28
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My very very rough prediction of GDP nominal (not ppp) of Korean cities about 2020.

Assuming that per capital GDP of S. Korea as a whole will reach about 40~45000 USD about 2020,

Seoul proper will be about 400~450 bil USD;
Busan proper about 150 bil USD;
Incheon proper about 120~140 bil USD;
Daegu about 100 bil USD;
Daejeon about 70~80 bil USD;
Gwangju about 60~70 bil USD;
Ulsan about 90~100 bil USD;
Suwon about 80~90 bil USD;
Seongnam about 80~90 bil USD;
Goyang about 70~80 bil USD.

The whole Captial Metropolitan Area (CMA: Seoul+Gyeonggi Prov.+Incheon+Northern Chungcheong Prov.+Western Gangwon Prov.) may form 1 tril by 2020.

Also, Busan and her sister cities will form CMA-like metropolitan area (pop. about 7 milion?) by 2020 and its economy may be as big as 250~300 bil USD.
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Old May 5th, 2008, 01:56 AM   #29
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These are rubbish lists. Did you know using exchange rate GDP, tokyo > new york + chicago + los angeles?
That's why suddenly the anglos start using GDP PPP funny eh?
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Old July 22nd, 2008, 06:39 AM   #30
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Why? Manila is much bigger than KL and Bangkok, Jakarta probably. Well, I mean, because of its size it has able to account so much percentage of GDP to the country.
It's always confusing when I read about Manila, because it means Manila or Metro Manila? I read in the Wikipedia, the size of Manila City (not Metro Manila) is only about 40 km2. If we talk about Metro Manila, the size is 636 km2..

Jakarta, in the other hand, is about 750 km2, and it is Jakarta City it self. If we talk about Metropolitan Jakarta (known as Jabodetabek or Greater Jakarta), the size is about 7315 km2..

So I think it's definitely clear which city is bigger between Manila and Jakarta hehe....

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Old August 6th, 2008, 07:20 PM   #31
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The person who made that list doesn't even know the difference between PPP and GDP nominal. In SE, Bangkok and Jakarta should be much higher than Metro Manila in terms of GDP nominal figures. PPP figure will always show greater than a normal GDP nominal figure hence Metro Manila, which was calculated as PPP had higher value than Bangkok, which was calculated as GDP nominal.

And Seoul's GDP is ranked 2nd in Asia at the moment. He accounted only the GDP of metro Seoul area. Seoul's GDP has already exceeded $400 billion by the end of 2006. At the end of last year, Korea achieved a little short of $1 trillion in terms of GDP nominal (Hence GDP per capita close to $20,000).
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Old September 20th, 2008, 01:05 AM   #32
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how large are seoul and tokyo

why do they account for 40-50% of the country's total gdp?

btw the list is really weird

shanghai gdp ppp is around 410 (21*20000) something in 2007-8 let alone 320 in 2020

LOL

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Old February 10th, 2009, 08:12 AM   #33
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It's always confusing when I read about Manila, because it means Manila or Metro Manila? I read in the Wikipedia, the size of Manila City (not Metro Manila) is only about 40 km2. If we talk about Metro Manila, the size is 636 km2..

Jakarta, in the other hand, is about 750 km2, and it is Jakarta City it self. If we talk about Metropolitan Jakarta (known as Jabodetabek or Greater Jakarta), the size is about 7315 km2..

So I think it's definitely clear which city is bigger between Manila and Jakarta hehe....
Manila City is the capital of the Philippines... But in international terms, Manila most commonly refers to Metro Manila, which consists of the Manila City plus 16 cities and municipalities... it's also because Metro Manila is an urban agglomeration...
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metro manila is the Philippine's National Capital Region... the financial center of the country. meaning the whole or perhaps most economic movements done in this city, in this very only Philippine City. Its not about the size of the the city but the size of GDP per se. Try to look at the lists, there is no other Philippine cities in, just Metro Manila. unlike indonesia, vietnam, etc. Dont worry brothers, its just the city not the whole country.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 05:44 AM   #35
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Old February 19th, 2009, 10:59 AM   #36
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Metro Manila's numbers are close to accurate and if there is any correction at all, the numbers should be actually higher. Metro Manila ( M.M.) is a political unit created in 1976 and is approx 636 sq. km. and a population of more than 19 million people in 2007. Now, if you count the urban agglomeration that is Greater Metro Manila- the population can reach over 30 million. Compared to the rest of the country, M.M. is the economic powerhouse of the Philippines. This can be attested by having not one but nine solid skylines within the metro area (see the skyline pics). As most Filipinos say, Metro Manila is not the Philippines......but this is an old cliche because Philippines today is a Newly Industrialized Country........
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Old August 29th, 2009, 07:25 PM   #37
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Why are GDP's of Second Cities like Cebu not included in the list?

I guess Cebu City's GDP (excluding Metropolitan Cebu) is $20,000,000.....

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Maybe they're just small enough.
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haha everybody was surprised about how big Metro Manila's GDP is.

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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:27 AM   #39
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Its in PPP and Metro Manila contributes a very large proportion of the national GDP.
nope it's not in PPP don't confuse us LOL
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