Miami International Airport

[HavanaMiami1977]

New Destination, New Airline to start service next November, Miami, USA - Prague Czech Republic operating a Boeing 737-800.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/south-...starts-nov-14/

[massp88]

Originally Posted by HavanaMiami1977

New Destination, New Airline to start service next November, Miami, USA - Prague Czech Republic operating a Boeing 737-800.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/south-...starts-nov-14/

This is destined to fail, or at least only attract basement fare hunters. A tech stop in the Azores and the total travel time on a 737 is going to make this very unattractive to most travelers. Why would one fly them when there are plenty of other one stop options as well? AF MIA-CDG-PRG, MIA-FRA-PRG for example.

[HavanaMiami1977]

Originally Posted by massp88

This is destined to fail, or at least only attract basement fare hunters. A tech stop in the Azores and the total travel time on a 737 is going to make this very unattractive to most travelers. Why would one fly them when there are plenty of other one stop options as well? AF MIA-CDG-PRG, MIA-FRA-PRG for example.

Let them start first the service, then we can predict failures , for now im just happy that carriers are looking at Miami first and then New York, LA or any other city in US.

[spellbound]

I have no idea how they'll do. I just know this thread is really making me want to visit Prague again. What a spectacular city.

[diablo234]

American Airlines is expected to start nonstop service from Miami to Roatan in Honduras.

Yahoo! - American Airlines Adds Nonstop Service Between Miami And Roatan, Honduras

Considering the fact that both Delta and United Airlines (from Atlanta and Houston respectively) already fly there and the fact that Roatan is an emerging tourism destination, I was surprised that American Airlines did not consider starting flying there earlier.

[1772]

Great. I've always thought it'd be natural for MIA to be the natural hub for all carribean flights.

Then people winter vacationing there instead of Miami, atleast get a glimpse of the city and might come to us instead of the place they went to the next time.

[diablo234]

Originally Posted by 1772

Great. I've always thought it'd be natural for MIA to be the natural hub for all carribean flights.

Then people winter vacationing there instead of Miami, atleast get a glimpse of the city and might come to us instead of the place they went to the next time.

I doubt it since Roatan and Miami attract two different kinds of visitors to begin with. However the additional flight will prove to be beneficial for the Honduran community residing in South Florida.

[1772]

Originally Posted by diablo234

I doubt it since Roatan and Miami attract two different kinds of visitors to begin with. However the additional flight will prove to be beneficial for the Honduran community residing in South Florida.

Do they really?
Alot of my european friends like to visit both Roatan and Miami.
Roatan is booming as a european destination.

[diablo234]

Originally Posted by 1772

Do they really?
Alot of my european friends like to visit both Roatan and Miami.
Roatan is booming as a european destination.

Well Roatan is a completely different vacation experience then Miami for starters, if someone wants to visit a city with amenities like nightlife, shopping, etc they go to Miami, if they just want to have an affordable beach vacation with less commercialization then they go to Roatan. It's kind of like comparing Honolulu with say Kauai.

Regardless Miami is going to see benefits anyways as many of those travelers will probably have a layover which will help the local economy in many ways.

[QuantumX]

Originally Posted by diablo234

Well Roatan is a completely different vacation experience then Miami for starters, if someone wants to visit a city with amenities like nightlife, shopping, etc they go to Miami, if they just want to have an affordable beach vacation with less commercialization then they go to Roatan.

The scuba diving is also better there!

[Joseph85]

When open flights to Cordoba, Argentina?

[diablo234]

Originally Posted by Joseph85

When open flights to Cordoba, Argentina?

Considering that Iberia recently pulled out of Cordoba, I don't see American Airlines starting service there anytime soon.

[MAH45462]

Originally Posted by massp88

This is destined to fail, or at least only attract basement fare hunters. A tech stop in the Azores and the total travel time on a 737 is going to make this very unattractive to most travelers. Why would one fly them when there are plenty of other one stop options as well? AF MIA-CDG-PRG, MIA-FRA-PRG for example.

Irrelevant. The flight will be filled with pre-sold vacation packages. These people buy a vacation package and are put on the flight; they are not comparing airline schedules finding the best one.

It will fail if they don't find enough vacation package buyers, not because the schedule sucks.

Originally Posted by diablo234

Considering that Iberia recently pulled out of Cordoba, I don't see American Airlines starting service there anytime soon.

Irrelevant that Iberia no longer flies to Cordoba. AA is in active discussions with COR officials to begin service to the airport in 2013. It was going to happen this fall, but it came down to chosing ASU or COR, and ASU won out to go first. As with ASU, the proposal was to fly a 757-200 and block seats in coach and sell no cargo. ASU is about 200 miles closer to Miami and will be a better gage of whether or not this works, financially, in practice, or if these routes need 763s.

[diablo234]

Originally Posted by MAH45462

Irrelevant that Iberia no longer flies to Cordoba. AA is in active discussions with COR officials to begin service to the airport in 2013. It was going to happen this fall, but it came down to chosing ASU or COR, and ASU won out to go first. As with ASU, the proposal was to fly a 757-200 and block seats in coach and sell no cargo. ASU is about 200 miles closer to Miami and will be a better gage of whether or not this works, financially, in practice, or if these routes need 763s.

If Iberia was not able to pull off serving Cordoba (which by the way has more frequent business and family ties with Madrid than Miami) then there is no way American Airlines would be able to do the same.

The Asuncion-Miami route serves a different purpose altogether so you cannot compare the two routes.

[MAH45462]

Originally Posted by diablo234

If Iberia was not able to pull off serving Cordoba (which by the way has more frequent business and family ties with Madrid than Miami) then there is no way American Airlines would be able to do the same.

The Asuncion-Miami route serves a different purpose altogether so you cannot compare the two routes.

Do you have access to airline O&D data? No? That's what I thought.

MIACOR is approximately 30% a larger market than MADCOR.

If you re-read what I say, you will see what it has to do with MIAASU - aircraft utilization and the strategy of trying to use a 757 on such a long route.

[diablo234]

Originally Posted by MAH45462

Do you have access to airline O&D data? No? That's what I thought.

MIACOR is approximately 30% a larger market than MADCOR.

If you re-read what I say, you will see what it has to do with MIAASU - aircraft utilization and the strategy of trying to use a 757 on such a long route.

I might not have any access to specific data, but I am well aware of the Cordoba market itself as I have relatives living there at the moment.

And if you do have proof of what you are claiming then I would love to see it. Otherwise I am just going to think that you are just blowing smoke.

[Pe67terh]

Then this Summer

[MAH45462]

Originally Posted by diablo234

I might not have any access to specific data, but I am well aware of the Cordoba market itself as I have relatives living there at the moment.

And if you do have proof of what you are claiming then I would love to see it. Otherwise I am just going to think that you are just blowing smoke.

It is Sabre MIDT data. I'm not about to give you my login credentials, feel free to buy a subscription and verify. MIACOR is a larger market than MADCOR, end of story.

[diablo234]

Thought some of you might find this interesting.

Fort Worth Star-Telegram: American signs codeshare agreements with LATAM

In a move to bolster its Latin America and South America presence, American Airlines announced on Monday that it has signed codeshare agreements with LATAM Group's TAM Airlines and LAN Colombia.

The Fort Worth-based carrier added that it will add a new Dallas/Fort Worth to Bogota, Colombia route in late 2013 and new service from Miami to Curitiba and Porto Alegre, Brazil.

"As we continue to expand our presence in Latin America, the new routes to Brazil and Colombia are a direct response to the increasing customer demand for travel between the U.S. and Latin America," said American's chief commercial officer Virasb Vahidi.

American previously had a codeshare agreement with LAN as the airline is part of its Oneworld alliance but did not have a codeshare agreement with TAM. LAN and TAM completed their merger to create LATAM earlier this year.

-Andrea Ahles

Read more here: http://startelegram.typepad.com/sky_talk/#storylink=cpy

Apparantly American Airlines is looking to start direct service from Miami to Curitiba and Porto Alegre in Brazil by next year.

[DannyelBrazil]

Still about Miami-Brazil routes, Gol Airlines from Brazil started last Dec 15th regular daily service from Miami to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil via Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic (with an option for conection in Santo Domingo to Sao Paulo, Brazil).

Gol is now also operating Sao Paulo-GRU to Orlando route via Santo Domingo.
In Santo Domingo passengers can change planes.
Gol is doing, actually the route: Rio or Sao Paulo to Miami or Orlando.

Aircrafts are B737.
With this, Miami now have again 2 Brazilian Airliners operating regular passengers flights: TAM and Gol (both are the 2 biggest airliners in Brazil).
This is not seen since the end of Varig in mid-2000s.