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Old November 24th, 2007, 11:59 PM   #21
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It sounds funny in Polish. Something connected with AN ASS ( DUPA).
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Old November 25th, 2007, 12:12 AM   #22
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Yeah, Kerkhoff, your username means "cemetary" or "graveyard" in Dutch if you remove the last "f". We could go on with this for a while with so many languages in Europe.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 12:15 AM   #23
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haha
Believe me, it's just a product of my imagination. I don't know Dutch haha
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Old November 25th, 2007, 04:31 AM   #24
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Roads here age badly. Must be the snow.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 04:33 AM   #25
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After going through a winter, even a brand-new road is going to show signs of age, here.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 05:36 AM   #26
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This segment of Interstate 45 was built around 1969, and is still in very good condition. Don't know why it's held up so long, or why it was never resurfaced (like most of the rest of the route)
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Old November 25th, 2007, 05:48 AM   #27
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After going through a winter, even a brand-new road is going to show signs of age, here.
Here in bulgaria some do, some donīt. The roads have to survife extreme summers with 40 degrees two months long, with extreme rainfalls and also harsh winters. But especially the rainfalls, donīt they damage the roads because sometimes they are extreme here.

Oh and Dupnica is a wordplay from Dukpa which means hole, because Dupnica is surrounded by mountains. Ant not Dupe
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Old November 26th, 2007, 05:45 AM   #28
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This segment of Interstate 45 was built around 1969, and is still in very good condition. Don't know why it's held up so long, or why it was never resurfaced (like most of the rest of the route)
No barriers?
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Old November 26th, 2007, 07:55 AM   #29
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Rural interstate highway. The closest major city to this location would be Dallas, which is over 100 mi (161 km) to the north. The stated policy for the Interstate Highway System is to not have barriers in most rural areas, instead substituting the wide median.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 09:41 AM   #30
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I think this median is too narrow to have the lack of a barrier. With 70 MPH (or whatever the speed limit is), you are on the other direction within a second, it can be disastrous when a big rig crashes or something.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 04:35 PM   #31
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^ Maybe, but think about just how fast someone would have to be going to actually cross the median -- then consider how much a median barrier costs. I don't think a barrier is warranted on a highway like this.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 06:27 PM   #32
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Wider grassy medians like that are normal in the USA, mainly because they are less expensive to build and ROW is not as big of a cost issue here as it is in Europe. Some narrower older grassy medians are getting fence-like wire barriers, though. The Federal Highway Administration did revise their guidelines on that a few years ago, but the median on that part of I-45 is likely wide enough to not require one.

Wide grassy medians like that also make it very easy to upgrade the highway to 2x3 - just add the new lanes in the middle.

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Old November 26th, 2007, 07:17 PM   #33
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It's not only in USA. In Slovakia there is similar one - expressway R1 section Kováčová - Banská Bystrica. It has large grassy zone in the middle without barriers. I didn't found any photos so here is at least snapshot from Google Maps:



Here you can see short part was already upgraded on 2x3:

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Old November 26th, 2007, 07:49 PM   #34
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in the Netherlands that large median would be such a waste of land!
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in the Netherlands that large median would be such a waste of land!
We do have them though. The A6 Almere - Lelystad has a 100m wide median, and so have other motorways, like the A1 Amersfoort - Apeldoorn and some other places.

I don't know what your image is of the Netherlands, but only 14% of the land surface can be counted under "build-up area". The Randstad is pretty dense (but not when it is counted as one metropolitan area), but there are lots of space in eastern and northern provinces.
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I don't know what your image is of the Netherlands, but only 14% of the land surface can be counted under "build-up area". The Randstad is pretty dense (but not when it is counted as one metropolitan area), but there are lots of space in eastern and northern provinces.
i forgot to put some smileys anyway, the Netherlands is really dense populated country for european meanings
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medians are so dated, apsolutely waste of land in any country. Instead of these dumb medians there could be trees and forests at the side of motorway, beautiful wild nature untouched without wasting the land which could be a wild forest, Iīm glad they donīt make it in bulgaria, especially arround the area of the Struma motorway where the landscape is extremly wild and forestish, they would DESTROY the beautiful extremly wild untouched landscape just because they donīt have money for some cheap barriers.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 12:36 AM   #39
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medians are so dated, apsolutely waste of land in any country. Instead of these dumb medians there could be trees and forests at the side of motorway, beautiful wild nature untouched without wasting the land which could be a wild forest, Iīm glad they donīt make it in bulgaria, especially arround the area of the Struma motorway where the landscape is extremly wild and forestish, they would DESTROY the beautiful extremly wild untouched landscape just because they donīt have money for some cheap barriers.
On the other hand, as you can see, this expressway is in the middle of fields and thanks to that median it can be easily upgraded on 2x3 what will be certainly needed because it's on E77 corridor and traffic is everyday higher and higher.
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