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Old November 27th, 2007, 02:09 AM   #41
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of course, it is easier to make such medians when the area is flat. and the area around struma is not.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 10:32 AM   #42
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On the other hand, as you can see, this expressway is in the middle of fields and thanks to that median it can be easily upgraded on 2x3 what will be certainly needed because it's on E77 corridor and traffic is everyday higher and higher.
If I remember right,some polish new motorways have wide median,for that purpose,but also have crashbarriers in the middle...
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Old November 27th, 2007, 01:09 PM   #43
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if there were medians like this, there wouldnīt be any shiny crashbarriers at struma, that would be shame.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 09:05 PM   #44
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If I remember right,some polish new motorways have wide median,for that purpose,but also have crashbarriers in the middle...
In Poland it's understadable, it's flat. I think even Hungary could do that. This is the only such section in Slovakia and it's not new, it's almost 30 years old. Now we regret the highway between Bratislava and Trnava is not the same.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 11:48 PM   #45
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I think that there is a lot of open space between the lanes because in the USA they have a lot of space
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Old November 28th, 2007, 12:16 AM   #46
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I think thats probably largely the case. Not to mention, every time a vehicle hits a crash barrier, both the barrier and vehicle need to be repaired.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 09:57 PM   #47
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The wide median of the dutch A6:

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Old November 29th, 2007, 10:15 PM   #48
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The wide median of the dutch A6:

oh my god, I have no words for that.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 10:20 PM   #49
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If you have the space, why not?
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Old November 29th, 2007, 10:27 PM   #50
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oh my god, I have no words for that.
I have...destroying the wildlife for no reason...they should have,at least,planted trees and grass and bushes in the middle.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 10:46 PM   #51
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There was no wildlife before, this is at the bottom of a former sea.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 10:47 PM   #52
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Making assumptions is never a smart move. That piece of land didn't even exist before 1960. Nothing was destroyed.
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Doesnt matter...although sorry for the incorrect assumption. If they've planted trees on the barriers,why not in the median?
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Old November 30th, 2007, 12:31 AM   #54
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Making assumptions is never a smart move. That piece of land didn't even exist before 1960. Nothing was destroyed.
and what about poor fishes?
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Old November 30th, 2007, 12:44 AM   #55
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Doesnt matter...although sorry for the incorrect assumption. If they've planted trees on the barriers,why not in the median?
Yes, thatīs still a waste of land, but if thereīs no good landscape in the Netherlands (as the Dutch themself say, than they donīt care about wild nature as much as other countries do.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 02:26 AM   #56
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Maybe the median is so wide because of soil stability issues then. I really don't know, but I have learned there is usually a logical reason for the way things are they way they are.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 05:30 AM   #57
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Yes, thatīs still a waste of land, but if thereīs no good landscape in the Netherlands (as the Dutch themself say, than they donīt care about wild nature as much as other countries do.
And you're basing this wild statement on what, exactly?

Even if they didn't "care about wild nature", their commitment to human rights more than makes up for it.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 09:22 AM   #58
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Yes, thatīs still a waste of land, but if thereīs no good landscape in the Netherlands (as the Dutch themself say, than they donīt care about wild nature as much as other countries do.
I think they care much more about wildlife than in Bulgaria.

Just show some Bulgarian ecoducts, there are plenty of them in Netherlands.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 02:46 PM   #59
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I think they care much more about wildlife than in Bulgaria.

Just show some Bulgarian ecoducts, there are plenty of them in Netherlands.
You thought is based on what? The fact that they have had the time and resources to have a gorgeous road network while it's just the beginning for Bulgaria or what?

And there are already tunnels for the big animals, such as the gray wolf and the brown bear, to pass under the highways in Bulgaria. Also, two highways have to be pushed away to preserve natural habitat of wild animals. I hope someone has images of the tunnels so you can be satisfied.

Sorry but I think you have no idea how big and difficult the battle for the wild nature in Bulgaria is.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 03:40 PM   #60
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You thought is based on what? The fact that they have had the time and resources to have a gorgeous road network while it's just the beginning for Bulgaria or what?

And there are already tunnels for the big animals, such as the gray wolf and the brown bear, to pass under the highways in Bulgaria. Also, two highways have to be pushed away to preserve natural habitat of wild animals. I hope someone has images of the tunnels so you can be satisfied.

Sorry but I think you have no idea how big and difficult the battle for the wild nature in Bulgaria is.
Ignore this nationalist, he thinks that slovenia and their bumpy roads are the big deal. Sorry for being offensive but in every sentence against Bulgaria he drops something negative. Stop it finally keber, you know nothing, you donīt have a clue what nature we have, you donīt know how much is being done for wild nature, and if you cut your forests off the Alps, we donīt make that in our mountains, we donīt cut our forests for ******* cows, we even have extremly wild nature beneath the motorways and nationalroads like the E79,
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