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Old June 25th, 2016, 09:28 PM   #2081
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Going off-topic, but please explain how being a EU member preventing you from trading with other countries?
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Old June 25th, 2016, 09:44 PM   #2082
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Going off-topic, but please explain how being a EU member preventing you from trading with other countries?
The way I understand this argument LtBk is that members of the EU can only trade with countries that the EU made trade deals with. So say you wanted to trade with Peru for random example, but the EU has not made a trade deal with Peru. You cannot trade with Peru by yourself. That's how I understand this argument.
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Old June 25th, 2016, 11:58 PM   #2083
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The way I understand this argument LtBk is that members of the EU can only trade with countries that the EU made trade deals with. So say you wanted to trade with Peru for random example, but the EU has not made a trade deal with Peru. You cannot trade with Peru by yourself. That's how I understand this argument.
Not quite. We are able to trade with every country but those the EU does not have a trade deal with we face high tariffs, restricting trade, China being an example.

As the EU has been woefully poor at negotiating trade deals and also has to cater for the views of 28 different countries, its a reasonable to suggest we will be in a better situation outside the EU, dictating our own terms of trade.
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Old June 26th, 2016, 01:23 PM   #2084
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The way I understand this argument LtBk is that members of the EU can only trade with countries that the EU made trade deals with. So say you wanted to trade with Peru for random example, but the EU has not made a trade deal with Peru. You cannot trade with Peru by yourself. That's how I understand this argument.
That's completely false I'm afraid, whoever has told you that was not telling the truth. Of course the UK can trade with Peru, you don't need a free-trade deal to trade, it just means there will likely be more tariffs and import quotas etc than with a country where there is a free-trade deal. Being in the EU does not means we cannot trade with non-EU countries, anybody who says otherwise is wrong.
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Old June 26th, 2016, 08:36 PM   #2085
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That's completely false I'm afraid, whoever has told you that was not telling the truth. Of course the UK can trade with Peru, you don't need a free-trade deal to trade, it just means there will likely be more tariffs and import quotas etc than with a country where there is a free-trade deal. Being in the EU does not means we cannot trade with non-EU countries, anybody who says otherwise is wrong.
Yes, but UK can't sign free trade agreement with Peru directly, it needs to be approved by 28 members. I believe this is what YingBlanc meant.
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Old June 27th, 2016, 10:19 AM   #2086
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But that is completely different to "We can't trade with Peru", of course we can trade with Peru. I've noticed many on the Leave side saying "The EU means we can't trade with x, y or z" so it's no wonder some of the public have picked up on that. If they mean "We can't sign our own free trade deal with x, y or z" them why not just say that?
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Old June 27th, 2016, 03:39 PM   #2087
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But that is completely different to "We can't trade with Peru", of course we can trade with Peru. I've noticed many on the Leave side saying "The EU means we can't trade with x, y or z" so it's no wonder some of the public have picked up on that. If they mean "We can't sign our own free trade deal with x, y or z" them why not just say that?
Becuase the situation is nuanced and they think the electorate are voting on big issues.

I would say those affected by big issues would never change their minds so planting little seeds of doubt all over the place would win the swing voters. In the national elections the parties don't waste their efforts on dead seats etc.

For me all the doom talk is laughable. We have a colossal trade deficit with the EU. The 2nd largest and possibly most stable economy, if you assume German liability for the Euro, has left. I think their will be public crying but private talking.
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Old June 27th, 2016, 04:33 PM   #2088
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But that is completely different to "We can't trade with Peru", of course we can trade with Peru. I've noticed many on the Leave side saying "The EU means we can't trade with x, y or z" so it's no wonder some of the public have picked up on that. If they mean "We can't sign our own free trade deal with x, y or z" them why not just say that?
Because it won't have desirable effect. Both sides were throwing quite questionable arguments. Most bizarre arguments from Remain side I've heard is that England, Wales and NI had to leave EURO 2016 because we are no longer in EU.
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Old June 27th, 2016, 08:43 PM   #2089
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Because it won't have desirable effect. Both sides were throwing quite questionable arguments. Most bizarre arguments from Remain side I've heard is that England, Wales and NI had to leave EURO 2016 because we are no longer in EU.
What about Scotland......oh wait!
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Old June 27th, 2016, 10:27 PM   #2090
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Exchange Court | Greengate | 130m | 44 fl | U/C

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Old June 28th, 2016, 05:31 PM   #2091
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Landmark | Peterloo
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Thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...307888&page=26

  • Address: Oxford Street, Peterloo, City Zone Manchester M1

  • Floors: 14

  • Height: 59m

  • Office Space: 178,000sqft

  • Developer: Castlebrooke

Current status: Pre Planning

Nearest transport: St Peter's Square







Looks like hoardings are going up around the old Odeon cinema building - which is due to be demolished to build Landmark:

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Old June 29th, 2016, 01:08 AM   #2092
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Ballymore brings stalled skyscraper site to market

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Old June 29th, 2016, 01:43 AM   #2093
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MANCHESTER | Middlewood Locks | Prep


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Old June 29th, 2016, 02:38 AM   #2094
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Wow. Huge site.
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Old June 29th, 2016, 12:29 PM   #2095
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Old June 29th, 2016, 12:52 PM   #2096
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Old June 29th, 2016, 02:32 PM   #2097
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So they're selling the Piccadilly Tower site? Does it really still have planning consent in place? (I know the article says it, but I'm just asking to verify). Exciting
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Old June 29th, 2016, 05:37 PM   #2098
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Think permission has probably run out on it now sk327 because it was due to start in 2008 right before the property crash (in fact it did start). The new owners would have to re-apply for planning permission but if they use the same design I guess they could just re-use all the paperwork/blueprints etc?
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Old June 29th, 2016, 05:37 PM   #2099
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Timekeeper's Square | Trinity
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Thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1859879

  • Address: Cleminson Street, Trinity, Salford M3

  • Architect: Buttress Architects

  • Floors: 3

  • Number of townhouses: 36

  • Cost: £200m

  • Developer: English Cities Fund

Current status: Under Construction

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Old June 29th, 2016, 05:41 PM   #2100
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10-12 Whitworth St | Castlefield
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  • Address: 10-12 Whitworth St, Castlefield, City Zone Manchester M2

  • Architect: 5Plus

  • Floors: 35

  • Number of apartments: 327

  • Height: 117m

Current status: Approved

Nearest transport: Deansgate Castlefield:






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