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Old December 16th, 2014, 04:36 PM   #321
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When people talk of 'The South', they're almost always talking about London and its boroughs. It's about time the same was true of the north and Manchester.
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When people talk of 'The South', they're almost always talking about London and its boroughs. It's about time the same was true of the north and Manchester.
This is a debate raging in the City Talk threads currently. I think this particular proposition is unfair to other great northern cities like Liverpool and Newcastle.

I don't actually think many that many people associate the South with London. Places like the South Coast, Cornwall and Bristol are all well-known too.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 07:11 PM   #323
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It's a generic term of contrast. I don't think anyone really cares except pedants.

I've heard people in London refer to Birmingham as 'the north'. It's a binary division. Technically, Liverpool, Manchester and so on are the North West. And then there's the North East, Midlands etc.

It's about simplifying the divide between Westminster and elsewhere.

When a politician is focusing a lot of policies on Manchester, it's perfectly reasonable to say he's focusing on 'the north', because implied within that statement is the contrast with the usual focus on 'the south', ie London. Unless you're really uptight, you shouldn't take that as an exclusion of Liverpool, Wigan etc. Just as people from Southampton don't care if you use 'south' to refer to London only. Just as we have North West/Merseyside and other more specific signifiers, they have - as you said - South Coast, Cornwall etc.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 08:40 PM   #324
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A LANDMARK year for Manchester's only five star hotel has been crowned by news of "game-changing" investment plans and a clutch of awards.

The Radisson Blu Edwardian Hotel, which is celebrating 10 years since it opened at the iconic Free Trade Hall building on Peter Street, is on the cusp of a multi-million pound investment plan, which general manager Stephen Miles says will make the property "as good as any you will see in any major city".

Subject to planning approval, the first of a three phase development and expansion project to take place over the next 18 months will see the Grade II listed property undergo a ground floor facelift with a revamped lobby, new restaurant and bar replacing the current high-end Alto restaurant. The more casual dining space, Steak and Lobster, will be upgraded too.

After this project has been completed, a further 20 bedrooms will be added to the hotel's south block, including one 10,000 sq ft super suite.

Phases one and two will cost around £1m and £5m respectively, while the third phase is "substantially more ambitious" and involves beginning the project to redevelop the Theatre Royal building next door.

This includes creating an 800 seater conference venue and the addition of a rooftop restaurant - on the top of an additional up to 18 floors of space, which are set to be sold to a private developer for high-quality urban living.

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Old December 16th, 2014, 08:42 PM   #325
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Thanks for posting WingTips. Should be interesting to see what the 18-storey element consists of.

With the 20-storey Assembly Tower proposed nearby this could create a bit of a cluster.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 08:45 PM   #326
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Very much one to watch me thinks.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 11:24 PM   #327
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When people talk of 'The South', they're almost always talking about London and its boroughs. It's about time the same was true of the north and Manchester.
1, no they are not, i should know

2, no they shouldnt
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Old December 16th, 2014, 11:28 PM   #328
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even if your first point is correct, the difference is, London is a hegemon, and manchester is not! perhaps one day. why manchester should be the north when many of its boroughs dont even associate with the Mancunian identity (a pity i think), whereas london this is not the case.

im babbling tbh and this is off topic, good updates besides!
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Old December 18th, 2014, 05:40 PM   #329
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Ok we'll drop it for now. But there are lots of places in London - that are in London - that hate being called London as much as Salford hates being called Manchester.

All big cities are hegemonies. Metropolitan areas are, by definition, dominated by central influence. Manchester is as influential on the north as London is on the south. And the two cities are archetypes of the cultural differences between the two regions (which are, obviously, pure artifice anyway - there's no Berlin wall between them, after all)
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Old December 18th, 2014, 06:35 PM   #330
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Ok we'll drop it for now. But there are lots of places in London - that are in London - that hate being called
It's become BBC policy to not associate Salford with Manchester when referring to MediaCityUK.
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Old December 19th, 2014, 11:31 AM   #331
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More Inward Investment For Manchester...

3000 room student village to be developed at The University of Manchester


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The University of Manchester and the real estate and infrastructure unit of the Abu Dhabi-based Mubadala Development Company today announce a £175m, three-phase student village development on the Owens Park site on the University’s Fallowfield Campus


The vision for the student residences in Fallowfield will see 3000 modern, high-quality units created by replacing the existing properties, including demolition of the Owens Park Tower. Pricing of the units will be competitive for students, and include access to facilities in a new Student Hub, with the University continuing to provide personal and welfare support.

The first phase of units are expected to be ready for the 2018/2019 academic year, subject to finalisation of development plans and planning consents, with lettings managed by The University of Manchester’s accommodation office.

The opportunity for Mubadala to invest in the Fallowfield project builds on the relationship established with Masdar, the Abu Dhabi-based clean technology and renewable energy company wholly owned by Mubadala. Masdar is partially funding the development of the Manchester Graphene Engineering & Innovation Centre, and is establishing joint graphene application research and fellowship programmes with the University.

President and Vice-Chancellor of The University of Manchester, Professor Dame Nancy Rothwell, said: "This represents an outstanding opportunity for The University of Manchester. This significant investment by Mubadala will allow our students to enjoy some of the best living and learning facilities in the country, and forms part of our ten-year capital expenditure programme to improve and evolve facilities at the University."

Ali Eid AlMheiri, Executive Director of Mubadala’s real estate and infrastructure unit, said: "I am delighted that we are able to invest in this project, which will improve infrastructure and facilities on the Fallowfield campus." He added: "It also allows Mubadala to further build on our existing portfolio of education projects including UAE University, Paris Sorbonne University and Zayed University in Abu Dhabi. We are confident that, in partnership with The University of Manchester, our investment will provide the next generation of accommodation and facilities."

Sir Richard Leese, Leader of Manchester City Council, said: "Manchester’s partnership with Abu Dhabi and the University has already brought about some of the most exciting development opportunities the UK has seen in recent times – and now the Fallowfield Campus redevelopment will deliver facilities unsurpassed in student accommodations.

"As a site highly significant to the wider south Manchester area, the regeneration of the campus will give real impetus to this part of the city – and the city council will continue to work constructively with both partners to ensure a resounding success."

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Old December 19th, 2014, 06:42 PM   #332
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More on the Radisson Edwardian Hotel Redevelopment

REVEALED: Radisson's Two New Restaurants & Rooftop Bar

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THE RADISSON Blu Edwardian hotel on Peter Street - one of only two five-star hotels in the central areas of the city - is poised to launch two new restaurants and a rooftop bar in 2015/16. This is part of an ambitious multi-million pound investment in the Free Trade Hall site.

The as-yet-untitled restaurant and bar will be plonked seventeen-floors high on the roof of a brand new luxury residential development to be constructed at the south-side of the Theatre Royal

The Radisson's current Opus One bar and restaurant will be replaced by the Manchester Kitchen - a new concept for the Manchester Radisson fashioned after the Mayfair Kitchen restaurant at the Edwardian Group's famous Mayfair Hotel in London's West End.

The Mayfair Kitchen is a DIY affair: choose from steak, lamb, veal, sole, oysters, pig cheeks, lobster and so on from the grill and take your pick of fancy sides. We expect The Manchester Kitchen to be of a similar ilk.

Still, we could be way off the mark, Stephen Miles, esteemed General Manager at the Peter Street hotel for the past decade, is giving little away.

"Opus is in such a fantastic space," Miles told Confidential. "We're going to open the whole room out with a theatre kitchen to create the much grander Manchester Kitchen.

"The concept and the chef we'll reveal closer to the time."

The new restaurant will form the basis of the £1m phase one development of the Radisson's ground floor, which will also include a renovation of the lobby and a revamp of the popular Steak and Lobster restaurant at the back of the hotel on Windmill Street.

Subject to planning approval, the Manchester Kitchen and the rest of phase one should be ready to go as early as March 2015.

Phase two of development - costing between £5m to £6m - will see Radisson add twenty 'deluxe rooms' and a 10,000 sq ft 'super suite' to the rear of the hotel by the end of 2015.

The Radisson's second new restaurant and accompanying rooftop bar is a far more ambitious and pricey proposition.

The as-yet-untitled restaurant and bar will be plonked seventeen-floors high on the roof of a brand new luxury residential development to be constructed at the south-side of the Theatre Royal (1845) - which the Radisson Blu Edwardian group purchased in 2012.

(Confidential revealed the plans for the Theatre Royal back in March 2014 - You can also read Jonathan Schofield's history of the Theatre Royal here).

The new restaurant and bar will the jewel in the crown of a huge phase three investment by the hotel group, which will see a 800-seater conference and ballroom space built inside the Theatre Royal and 60-70 luxury apartments in the new seventeen-storey residential tower on Windmill Street (the new tower should fall just short of the Great Northern Tower's 72 metres).

Radisson intend to build an underground tunnel and an overground walkway linking the Free Trade Hall and the Theatre Royal. Miles also hinted that the Council were keen for the Radisson's development to include an overground link to the Manchester Central convention centre.

Phase three should be done and dusted by the close of 2016. All plans are subject to planning approval.
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Old December 20th, 2014, 01:57 PM   #333
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2 St Peters Sq is another major redevelopment in the Square along with Number 1 (now more or less complete) and of course the Metrolink works...

The works will see the demolition of the existing block and a major new build...

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Old December 20th, 2014, 02:14 PM   #334
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Its good to see Manchester on the move again..after the 'Great Hibernation' of 2008-2013.

Manchester really does make a mockery of Birmingham's claim to be the 2nd city.
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Old December 21st, 2014, 12:47 PM   #335
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VDB has put together (as he always does) a list of predictions for the coming year...here is his list for projects for 2015...

Alright here's a few predictions..........


> Axis tower will start construction

> Cambridge St towers will also begin to rise, and all will be surprised about how tall and imposing they are

> Same as above for the Greengate One towers over in Salford

> Planning application for Angel Gardens tower, but it won't start construction this year.

> Victoria station will reopen and it'll be amazing. People getting off trains from Burnley will be seen to have their mouths gaping open in wonder at the beauty that is the new roof.

> More information on what is planned at Oxford Square/BBC site will be revealed

> Salford will reject Dandara's plans for Chapel Wharf, forcing them to go away and sell the site to a developer with a serious architect and not a joke. (please let this happen)

> X1's resi development at The Exchange in Salford Quays will start to rise.

> X1's resi development at MediaCity will gain planning approval but won't start construction yet

> Wilburn St will start construction

> 1 Water St will start construction

> Plans released / planning app submitted for a new tall building at Theatre Royal on Peter St.

> Demolition of London Scottish House on Windmill, however construction on Assembly Building won't start construction yet.

> More information on Manchester's devolution and who we'll be getting as an interim Mayor until a democratically elected one appears in 2017.

> Advanced plans for the Metrolink Trafford Park line will be released, although again nothing will start construction yet.

> Number 2 SPS will start construction.

> Indigo Hotel at Victoria still won't start construction

> Demolition of Quay House will happen but construction of 1 Spinningfields won't commence just yet.

> Cotton Building will rise pretty quickly.

> At least one new 15+storey office block to be proposed in the city centre.

> At least two new 20+storey resi blocks to be proposed in Central Salford/Central Manchester

> Lots more office-to-resi conversions in Central Manchester of old Edwardian/Victorian buildings. Particular focus on Princess St/King St and St Anne's Square as residential areas.

> More information on what's going to happen down by Granada, however no construction just yet. Maybe one or two planning applications. I doubt the 36-storey St John's Place building will move forward at all, but I'm always open to surprises
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Old December 21st, 2014, 01:40 PM   #336
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Thanks WingTips! This isn't prophetic of course, and others have made predictions too, they can all be seen on the link below:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1785679

Also worth noting Slow Burn's predictions - he works at the council and has access to rumours/secrets etc that the rest of us would know nothing about. Here are his predictions:

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The former boddingtons site will change hands

A major new development will be announced for high street and it won't be the BHS corner of the Arndale

Plans for a new boutique hotel in ancoats urban village will be revealed

Manchesters tallest building to be proposed

Salford tallest building to be proposed

New plans to be revealed for the former stagecoach bus depot moss side

Plans for further residential to be announced by Peel at media city

We will learn about at least 4 more currently unknown new projects from renaker and at least one of them will start construction

A new masterplan will be revealed for the Great Jackson Street area and construction will start on the first phase late in the year

Central retail park will change hands

The plans for Library Walk will go ahead, open and look great!

Will hear of another new plan for the royal exchange building, or at least more about the hotel plan

Lord peter smith to become acting mayor of greater manchester

Manchester united to win the premier league against all odds

Commercial development plans to be announced for the collar site and north car park site at eastlands

Specific pojects amounting to at least 1000 new apartments to be announced as part of manchester life

The former bbc site to change hands

London road fire station cpo to be successful!!





Pay particular attention to the "major redevelopment of High St".
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 03:37 PM   #337
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Another new development taking shape nicely is in Manchester`s new financial district-Spinning Fields...

The Cotton Building

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The Cotton Building was launched late in 2013 and it’s our first building from the Hello Innovation range, which reflects our research, trends and ideas of how we will work in the future.

This building is a new build totally bespoke to suit any organisations form of working, be it innovative, flexible, cost efficient, creative or collaborative. Perfect for any forward thinking business be it a corporate or technology, media, telecommunications (TMT) or creative organisation.

Taking factory principles over 10 floors, floor to ceiling heights of four metres and with a density of 1:6 it’s suitable to be work space, a call centre or a normal office. A total of 160,000 sq ft with 20,000 sq ft floor plates left to shell. You as the tenant decide the fit out to make it personable and cost efficient to your business.

With over 30,000 sq ft designed for public amenity space for tenants including a bike park, climbing wall, leisure facilities and innovative start-up and co-working spaces. It’s a unique building with its own unique ecosystem and it has a culture that will evolve the already successful Spinningfields estate.

This will be the first building of its kind to be built in the UK, leading a trend that many aspiring developers are chasing

http://alliedlondon.com/item/the-cotton-building

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Spinning fields is a new area being developed as a financial and legal powerhouse, as you can see from the photos it has evolved as a real eclectic mix of new build, the Cotton Building will fit in perfectly on the area.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 04:23 PM   #338
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SpinningFields is really pretty isn't it? It puts Brindley Place to shame. I'm just glad we can do decent office buildings down here.

Does Manchester have anything on the scale of the Snow Hill district in Brum?

I know there is the emerging st peter's square but I think that would draw comparisons to Paradise Circus in the future.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 05:31 PM   #339
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I am not sure what Snow Hill is? more info please.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 06:13 PM   #340
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Just ignore Al.

He's just a poor windup merchant from Wolverhampton.

The fact that he came on this thread to post that sums him up perfectly.

Stick to Birmingham Al, there's plenty going on there apparently?

Yam alright lad?

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