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Old January 23rd, 2015, 01:55 AM   #461
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Cleminson/Plot F4
Townhouses | Salford

Floors: 3-4 | Number of townhouses: 36 | Architect: Buttress

Current Status: Planning application submitted

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Land Bounded By Cleminson Street, Great George Street, Bank Street, St Philip's Place And Encombe Place, Salford

Details of reserved matters application for access, appearance, landscaping, layout and scale for development of Plot F4 for erection of 36 townhouses (use class C3); together with associated servicing, access, parking, landscaping and public realm, pursuant to outline planning permission 09/57950/EIAHYB.
Over 6 blocks, 14 x 2 bed, 19 x 3 bed & 3 x 4 Bed. All with gardens apart from 1 block, 3 & 4 beds have roof terraces.



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Old January 23rd, 2015, 03:32 AM   #462
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They shouldn't really - seeing as they're from Wilmslow.
**** all happens in Wilmslow though. I remember going uni and meeting a few Cheshire luvvies. Even they claimed they were from Manchester - not Macclesfield et al because nothing ever happens there.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 04:37 AM   #463
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**** all happens in Wilmslow though. I remember going uni and meeting a few Cheshire luvvies. Even they claimed they were from Manchester - not Macclesfield et al because nothing ever happens there.
It makes me laugh here in Newcastle when I meet people: "where are you from?" I reply with Manchester and we have that "OMG ME TOO OMG OMG OMG" moment and then "whereabouts in Manchester?" and I reply with "Salford" and then I return the question: "what part of Manchester are you from?"

The following responses make me chuckle:

1) Wigan
2) Macclesfield
3) Crewe
4) St Helens

That last one has occurred only once, and unlike the other three I literally spat it back at her: "St f*cking Helens?! You've GOT to be kidding me".

I'm quite pompous when it comes to what *is* Manchester though, I have to confess at a slight chuckle whenever someone from Stockport or Bolton claims to be a Manc, even though I 100% fully know that Stockport and Bolton can both lay a fairly decent claim to be part of this city.

But St Helens? She was on a wind up.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 11:07 AM   #464
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 01:49 PM   #465
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Nice updates mate.

Those Manchester geographics were cracking me up. I'm sure lots of Londoners say the same too lol
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 03:47 PM   #466
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Thanks for the update on 2SPS WingTips.

Lets see what our international friends think of what is quite a controversial project here in Manchester.

This is Century House, St Peter's Square:





Which, alongside several other buildings, is being demolished - to be replaced by this new office block, twice as tall:

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Old January 23rd, 2015, 04:17 PM   #467
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Century House is one of those buildings that looks just nice enough to make you think it's worth saving, but not nice enough that you'd recognise it out of context. So I'm both sad and happy it's being demolished. At least the replacement is half decent.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 04:39 PM   #468
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Century House is one of those buildings that looks just nice enough to make you think it's worth saving, but not nice enough that you'd recognise it out of context. So I'm both sad and happy it's being demolished. At least the replacement is half decent.
Yeah, I agree with this statement completely.

However, I do feel that I lean more toward Century House staying. Surely they could build a design like this somewhere else... the building replacing it isn't even that noticable.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 05:00 PM   #469
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Victoria Station is going to be amazing when finished, it will be a pleasure to pass through.
Are they keeping that cool map of Lancashire and Yorkshire railways in mosaic tiles that's on the wall near the entrance?
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 05:08 PM   #470
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It makes me laugh here in Newcastle when I meet people: "where are you from?" I reply with Manchester and we have that "OMG ME TOO OMG OMG OMG" moment and then "whereabouts in Manchester?" and I reply with "Salford" and then I return the question: "what part of Manchester are you from?"

The following responses make me chuckle:

1) Wigan
2) Macclesfield
3) Crewe
4) St Helens

That last one has occurred only once, and unlike the other three I literally spat it back at her: "St f*cking Helens?! You've GOT to be kidding me".
I'd say Crewe was even more ridiculous than St Helens. Crewe is almost in Stoke-on-Trent!
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Are they keeping that cool map of Lancashire and Yorkshire railways in mosaic tiles that's on the wall near the entrance?
Yes. Heritage is a massive part of the re-development. They're in the process of restoring it at the moment.

It's probably the thing people associate most with Victoria.
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**** all happens in Wilmslow though. I remember going uni and meeting a few Cheshire luvvies. Even they claimed they were from Manchester - not Macclesfield et al because nothing ever happens there.
I have some cousins in Alderley Edge (), who, when it comes to social outings, would always say they come from 'the centre of Manchester'. In Alderley Edge, they probably gag at the sight of a 'Proper Manc'.

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Old January 23rd, 2015, 07:06 PM   #473
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Lol, I've known a few people over the years living in places like Altrincham or Marple who put "Cheshire" as their address while still claiming association with anything culturally that comes from Manchester.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 08:05 PM   #474
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I'd say Crewe was even more ridiculous than St Helens. Crewe is almost in Stoke-on-Trent!
Also, Crewe is well known itself to just say 'I'm from Crewe'.

St Helens is hilarious though.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 08:08 PM   #475
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Inside the M60 is probably a good perimeter for 'I live in Manchester' statements.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 08:36 PM   #476
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If you live in or work in or shop in or go out to town in a place then you are from it. Any combination makes you a citizen of that place.

If you are in another country then Lancashire/Cheshire wont cut it, Manchester is just fine.

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Funnily enough I'm sat waiting for a train at Crewe station as I'm typing this. It definitely isn't Manchester!

M60 is probably a good definition of Manchester 'proper', better than the City of Manchester boundaries anyway. But I'd say that there are big areas outside that which are very much connected to and dependant upon Manchester for employment, leisure, transport etc.

If it were a city in the US or Australia you would have people living 30 miles from the city centre saying they were part of that city but I think long-established peripheral towns with their own local pride don't like to do that in the UK, which does hold cities back I think.
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Lol, I've known a few people over the years living in places like Altrincham or Marple who put "Cheshire" as their address while still claiming association with anything culturally that comes from Manchester.
I HATE this. They want a posh address like Cheshire but as soon as people start talking about the Smiths it's all "AH OH MY GOD I LOVE MORRISEY I'M SUCH A MANC".

Suburban w*nkers.
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Happens inside the M60.

Burnage or West Didsbury address. West Didsbury means 1930's semi's and grand houses, Burnage means council. Wannabees like the West Didsbury or East Didsbury cache and stretch it a few hundred yards too far.

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Being from Shropshire I see Morrissey and Joy Division/New Order as part of my own general Northwest/Midlands heritage.

Take That are Mancs though, and Mick Hucknall...
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