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Old April 12th, 2016, 12:00 AM   #1721
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Manchester Cathedral, 101 Embankment, No1 Greengate.



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Old April 12th, 2016, 12:10 AM   #1722
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A nice aerial picture of Manchester's Victorian red brick city centre.

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Old April 12th, 2016, 12:00 PM   #1723
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Old April 13th, 2016, 03:44 AM   #1724
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If Manchester built their towers within that area it would quickly become a decent skyline.
Will most of the current tall projects be visible in that view?, or are they spread around outside the core?.
Manchester's other cluster, at Salford quays, is another area where if they concentrated their towers in that confined quays area, where the other tall buildings allready exist, it would quickly begin to look better, bigger and denser. Salford quays is the perfect setting for a highrise skyline, the tall buildings stand out much better there (like they do at Liverpool waterfront) so it only takes a few towers to look decent and dense. In Manchester Central and Birmingham it's much harder for the tall buildings to stand out, but even in central Manchester, if they concentrated all their tall projects in that one central area, in the photo above, it would have a great skyline. Is that what they are currently doing?

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Old April 13th, 2016, 03:53 AM   #1725
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I find skyline pics don't do Manchester justice generally but that one so does. You see the shorter buildings better too with that pic.
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Old April 14th, 2016, 02:04 PM   #1726
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Owen Street | Great Jackson
Apartments | City Zone

Floors: 43-62 | Architect: Ian Simpson | Developer: Renaker | Height: Tallest 202m | Apartments: 1,400

Current status: Pre planning application

Nearest transport: Deansgate Castlefield:

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As part of the recently submitted planning application, the Design and Access statement is now available online. Lots of new information, and some new renders have been provided -

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The following massing also includes the Axis site (currently on site work going on), 10-12WSW (currently in planning, recommended approve) and the River St site (partial demolition completed of existing structure on site, the sinkhole on Mancunian Way has forced demolition to halt until the road is fixed as far as we're aware)

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What a sight this could be in a few years + Skyline Central

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Old April 14th, 2016, 02:26 PM   #1727
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I really really hope they get built after seen them renders.
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Old April 14th, 2016, 05:29 PM   #1728
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More renders.

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Old April 14th, 2016, 05:44 PM   #1729
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That cladding has to be good otherwise it's going to be an eyesore. It's going to have a major impact from every angle.
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Though Simpson has his critics his cladding choice is often bang on. Beetham's cladding is glorious and his new skyscraper in London is following the same trait. Exciting times #0161MannyOnTheMap
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Old April 14th, 2016, 08:30 PM   #1731
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That cladding has to be good otherwise it's going to be an eyesore. It's going to have a major impact from every angle.
See below.

Enlarged the render and info pages. New info, renders, and larger renders which have already been posted. Cross section of pages from the D&S Statement. 20 screen grabs.

Look at view 11/A56. Bottom middle of the 6. Page 2.







































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Old April 14th, 2016, 08:35 PM   #1732
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1. Beetham Tower.
2. Axis.
3.10-12 Whitworth West.
4.Owen Park.(X4)
5. River Street.

8 towers within a 20 minute circular walk.

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Old April 16th, 2016, 11:48 AM   #1733
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Manchester’s economy slows but city remains dominant

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The dominance of Greater Manchester’s economy within the Northern Powerhouse region has again been highlighted in our latest UK Powerhouse report, writes Roy Beckett, head of business legal services at Irwin Mitchell in Manchester.

The report says that at the end of 2015, Manchester actually grew faster than Inner London.

Our UK Powerhouse study, which has been produced with the Centre for Economic and Business Research, provides an estimate of GVA and job creation within 38 of the UK’s largest cities 12 months ahead of the Government’s official figures.

The latest study reveals that Greater Manchester’s economy grew by 2% in the 12 months to Q4 in 2015 compared to 2.5% in the 12 months to Q3 in 2015. Inner London’s economy on the other hand expanded by 1.9% in the year to Q4 compared to Q3 when the increase in the total value of the goods and services produced had gone up by 2.6%.
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Old April 16th, 2016, 12:29 PM   #1734
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Exchange Court | Greengate
Apartments | Salford

Floors: 44 | Height: 130m | No. of Apartments: 350
Developer: Renaker | Architect: OMI

Current status: Planning application submitted

Nearest transport: Victoria

Thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post130506507




Groundworks have started. Looks like Renaker are looking to begin construction the moment they get approval from Salford City Council:

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Old April 17th, 2016, 07:06 AM   #1735
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Is this near Salford quays, I hope it is, otherwise it's another wasted tower that won't improve the skyline at all. There is a very simple concept, yet it appears to be so difficult for out planners to grasp, that you put your towers TOGETHER, in a CLUSTER to make what's called a SKYLINE. Random towers spread miles apart is the reason our regional cities have embarrassing skylines. Does this lack of planning foresight and city structuring never get talked about by urban planners.
It's an absurdity to think these things aren't discussed, planed or organised. Our regional skylines show that this is clearly the case and there is no planning, structure or logic at all to our sorry bunch of city planners.
Sorry for the rant but the way local city authorities seem to intentionally place our towers as far away as possible from other towers, isolated, this nonsensical disaster can't really be explained other than that the local authorities deliberately goes around making sure that no clusters or skylines ever form, so our cities remain looking a joke, it's bizarre
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Is this near Salford quays, I hope it is, otherwise it's another wasted tower that won't improve the skyline at all. There is a very simple concept, yet it appears to be so difficult for out planners to grasp, that you put your towers TOGETHER, in a CLUSTER to make what's called a SKYLINE. Random towers spread miles apart is the reason our regional cities have embarrassing skylines. Does this lack of planning foresight and city structuring never get talked about by urban planners.
It's an absurdity to think these things aren't discussed, planed or organised. Our regional skylines show that this is clearly the case and there is no planning, structure or logic at all to our sorry bunch of city planners.
Sorry for the rant but the way local city authorities seem to intentionally place our towers as far away as possible from other towers, isolated, this nonsensical disaster can't really be explained other than that the local authorities deliberately goes around making sure that no clusters or skylines ever form, so our cities remain looking a joke, it's bizarre

Exchange Court (44 stories) will sit alongside Two Greengate (UC/31 stories) and The Residence (36 stories). So it'll make up part of a pretty impressive skyline in this part of town....






Also, planners don't really get to choose where skyscrapers go. Developers own plots of land around the city centre and they may propose a skyscraper somewhere. Obviously the planners get a say on the height/scale/design of the skyscraper, but they don't get to say where it goes.

Planners can create masterplans or development frameworks which suggest where towers (and smaller buildings) are more appropriate, and if a skyscraper is proposed somewhere where their own plans have suggested one shouldn't go or doesn't belong, they can reject the application however it's actually increasingly difficult for planners to reject applications due to the National Planning Policy Framework (2012)'s "presumption in favour of sustainable development", which suggests that planners wave through as much stuff as possible in order to re-stimulate the economy (which was a hot topic in 2012).
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Old April 17th, 2016, 11:21 AM   #1737
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2 St Peter's Square
Office | City Zone

Floors: 12 | Architect: Ian Simpson | Developer: Fred Done Associates

Current Status: Under Construction

Nearest transport: St Peter's Square


Thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1624546






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Old April 17th, 2016, 11:30 AM   #1738
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One Spinningfields
Offices | City Zone

Floors: 24 | Office Space: 300,000sqft | Developer: Allied London | Height: 92m

Current Status: Under Construction

Nearest transport: Salford Central


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There's also a new forumer - Hoist It Dave - who works on-site at No1 Spinningfields and has shared these with us.

Being lifted up the core of 1S:

There's rumoured to be a new D&D Restaurant on the top floor of this building, so this video gives an idea as to the views. Manchester's current highest bar - Cloud 23 - will be 1m lower down than this one.






Looking straight up the main core:

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Old April 17th, 2016, 03:05 PM   #1739
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Is this near Salford quays, I hope it is, otherwise it's another wasted tower that won't improve the skyline at all. There is a very simple concept, yet it appears to be so difficult for out planners to grasp, that you put your towers TOGETHER, in a CLUSTER to make what's called a SKYLINE.
In not sure why that would be a priority for planners, most people couldn't care less about a skyline outside a forum like this.

I don't think they are going to turn down an application just because it isn't next to another tall building and won't create a cluster of them, they care about the economic impacts and the regeneration of disused and underused plots rather than creating a skyline.

Also like VDB says, the planners don't own the land and they don't get to decide which sites proposals are submitted for.
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Old April 17th, 2016, 08:22 PM   #1740
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So there's a unique situation applicable to British cities that other countries miraculously don't suffer from, sure
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