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Old March 22nd, 2008, 10:43 PM   #1
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BOSTON | Copley Place | 191m | 625ft | 52 fl | App



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Lofty aspirations at Copley Place
47-story tower would be the tallest residential building in Boston

By Thomas C. Palmer Jr.
Globe Staff / March 21, 2008

The owner of Copley Place is proposing to build the city's tallest residential building, a 47-floor tower that would go above an expanded Neiman Marcus at the Back Bay shopping mecca.

Simon Property Group Inc. plans to expand the luxury retailer by about 50 percent, with expensive full-service residences above and the addition of an enclosed winter garden on the open plaza at Dartmouth and Stuart streets.

Designed by Howard Elkus of Elkus Manfredi Architects of Boston, the tower would be 569 feet tall, with 43 floors of residences on top of three floors of retail and restaurant space, and one of mechanical equipment.

The project would complete Copley Place, an urban shopping gallery built in the 1980s over the Massachusetts Turnpike roadway and ramps, and on a former railroad yard. The Residences at Copley Place, as they are tentatively named, would be directly across the street from the MBTA's Back Bay Station.

"I'm very happy to see Neiman Marcus investing in the area, and it makes sense to add housing to Copley Place," said Meg Mainzer-Cohen, president of the Back Bay Association, a group of 300 businesses. "It's a tall, slender building that will work in this location."

A resident of the neighborhood, however, reacted differently.

Jackie Yessian, chairwoman of the Neighborhood Association of Back Bay, a residents' group of about 2,000 members, said she had not seen Simon's plan so she couldn't comment in detail. But, she said, "We understand it may be a major development project that could have significant impact on the neighborhood."
Both Mainzer-Cohen and Yessian said they looked forward to the public approval process. Carl Dieterle, executive vice president of development for Simon, said he hoped to win the needed permits by year-end, break ground in the fall of 2009, and open 2 1/2 years later.
The new Copley Place tower would be taller than the nearby Westin Copley Place hotel, which is 36 stories.

The residential portion will have luxury condominiums with 24-hour concierge service, a health facility, a spa, and a residents' library, Simon said. It will have housekeeping services, and room and food service will be available from some of the restaurants in the complex. The project is forecast to create 250 permanent jobs.

Currently, the tallest residential building in the city, according to emporis.com, is Millennium Place Tower 1 near Chinatown, at 38 floors and 475 feet. It is followed by the two Harbor Towers buildings, at 40 floors and 400 feet. One Devonshire Place is 42 floors and 396 feet tall.

Elsewhere in Back Bay, the relatively low-rise Mandarin Oriental Hotel and Residences are nearing completion at the Prudential Center. But Prudential Center owner Boston Properties Inc. has proposed both an office building, at 19 floors, and residential tower, at 30, to complete the Pru complex, also built over Turnpike air space.Simon Property Group had signaled its intentions previously and yesterday filed a letter with the Boston Redevelopment Authority proposing to build 300 new condos.

While many aspects of the project must be vetted with the community and approved by the city, a building at Stuart and Dartmouth streets was contemplated as part of the master plan for Copley Place when it was first built.

Dieterle said the company has no cost estimate for the project yet. He acknowledged the proposed height might be controversial, but said Simon had originally considered 50 floors.

"We were able not only to expand Neiman with retail but also to add a residential component, which was part of the goal back in the '80s," he said.

The 300 parking spaces that will go with the residences will come from existing spaces at the two garages Simon owns in the complex.

"It really was 'smart growth' - the transportation hub is right there," Dieterle said. "The residential component is a lifestyle that's become very desirable in Boston as well as other major cities."

The projects includes the addition of 54,000 square feet to the Neiman Marcus store, followed by a complete renovation of the existing 115,000-square-foot store - which will not close during construction. An additional 60,000 square feet will include smaller-scale retail shops and restaurant space, with a lighted entrance and "public winter garden" at the Stuart Street plaza.

"The expansion of Neiman Marcus and the specialty shops will ensure the City of Boston's retail preeminence within the entire metropolitan region," Simon said in a press release.

Architect Howard Elkus said Neiman Marcus has long wanted to expand and establish one of a half-dozen "flagship" stores in Boston, which this project will do.

"What that will do for the Back Bay and Boston in terms of strengthening and enhancing the retail landscape is immeasurable," Elkus said yesterday.

Indianapolis-based Simon Property Group, which acquired Copley Place about five years ago, bills itself as the largest public US real estate company, with regional malls, outlet centers, lifestyle centers, and international properties. Altogether, it controls 257 million square feet of real estate.

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  • This will be the tallest residential building in Boston
  • This tower will complete Copley Square, an air-rights development over the Massachusetts Turnpike currently containing a shopping mall, a 36 story 395ft hotel, and offices
  • Included in this development is an expanded Neiman Marcus with 50% more room

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Old July 16th, 2008, 09:59 PM   #3
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Elegant design.The organic shape of the building makes it look different from each angle you look at it.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 10:23 PM   #4
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Yea! I love the organic look to it. the Building has real class to it too - not 1000 miles tall or an attention *****, just classy
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Old July 16th, 2008, 11:01 PM   #5
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Beautiful! Reminds me of that nice curvy 70's condo in Chicago. Only this has beautiful Foster style finishings and is more complex. I'm envious of you guys!!
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Old July 17th, 2008, 01:32 AM   #6
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A very nice residental tower, clean and stylish, not dominant but well fitting and eyecatching .
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Old July 17th, 2008, 01:54 AM   #7
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It fits in perfectly, I really hope that gets built.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 11:44 AM   #8
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 06:34 AM   #9
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Developer offers new details on Copley tower

At 47 floors, it would be city’s biggest residential building

August 17, 2011|By Casey Ross, Globe Staff

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Simon Property Group is moving forward with plans for a 47-story tower at Copley Place that would be Boston’s largest residential building, saying it would ensure the complex “maintains its status as the most attractive retail destination in the Boston metropolitan area.’’

Documents Simon submitted yesterday to the Boston Redevelopment Authority detail how the developer is trying to address the building’s impact on the neighborhood by, for example, rotating the tower to make it appear slimmer from the Copley Square side and increasing the size of a glass-encased garden with shops and community space.

After pausing development of the $500 million project for several years because of the recession, Simon is trying to move forward with construction. It has not set a start date, however, and still needs approvals from the BRA and state environmental regulators.

The project would fill in Copley Place’s last piece of undeveloped property by extending the Neiman Marcus store into the brick plaza at Dartmouth and Stuart streets. A multitiered residential tower would rise above the store.

“The expansion of Neiman Marcus and Copley Place strengthens our retail destination in the Back Bay and contributes to the city’s economic vitality,’’ Michael E. McCarty, Simon’s executive vice president for development, said in a statement. “The project will enhance the urban fabric of the neighborhood and be a striking addition to the city’s skyline.’’

Simon was ambiguous yesterday about whether the residential units would be rental apartments or condominiums. It had previously described them as condominiums. A spokesman said the company will monitor market conditions to determine how they will be marketed.


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Appears this one will be over 625 feet...
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 07:12 AM   #10
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very nice for Boston!
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That's a really good spot. The rendering is interesting, but I hope they show us a better one.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 01:57 PM   #12
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47-story Copley tower gets go-ahead

Chinatown, Fenway projects also OK’d

By Casey Ross | Globe Staff | November 18, 2011



City officials last night approved construction of what would be Boston’s tallest residential building, a 47-story tower at Copley Place with 318 condominiums above a retail base that houses an expanded Neiman Marcus store and other shops.

The board of the Boston Redevelopment Authority OK’d the $500 million project by Simon Property Group, of Indianapolis, after a long debate involving residents, union laborers, and public officials.

Supporters said the tower will be a striking addition to the skyline and will create jobs and improve the neighborhood. Opponents argued it won’t provide enough affordable housing and will worsen traffic and cast shadows on nearby Copley Square. In the end, however, the board voted that the project should move forward. Simon Property Group hopes to begin construction early next year.

The tower was one of several large projects to win approval last night. Others included a 404-unit apartment tower next to the Jacob Wirth Restaurant on Stuart Street near Boston’s Theatre District and a mixed use-project project on Boylston Street that will be developed by Abbey Group. It will have 210 apartments, offices, and stores in a building that will replace a McDonald’s.

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Very nice!
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 07:51 AM   #14
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This building was approved a couple of weeks ago. It will make a great addition to the Boston skyline.
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This is 569' to the roof but 626' to the top of the crown. Thread title should be changed.
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 11:28 PM   #16
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47 Story Copley Place Tower Put On Hold



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When it got the final O.K. from the city a year ago this month, the new tower atop Copley Place seemed like a miracle: a tall tower in Boston despite vociferous local opposition. Now, of course, there are a lot more towers going up around town; but, through it all, Copley Place's 47 stories and 318 condos, plus 115,000 square feet of additional retail at the existing base, stood out as one of the bolder spires proposed in Boston in a long time. Now it may not happen: the developer, mega-mall builder Simon Property Group, says it has suspended the development. It didn't give a reason, just that it wanted to reevaluate the project. Per Casey Ross in The Globe:

Simon declined to say whether its inability to proceed is due to design or financial problems, or both. It refused to say whether it intends to significantly change the project. "We're fully committed to a residential option at Copley and looking forward to continuing our work with the City of Boston and all public groups," said Morris, the spokesman.

Even local pols don't know Simon's reasons for the cessation despite the fact that the site sits on state-owned land (Simon says, "Sit tight!"). The tower triumphed last fall despite opponents so concerned about the shadows and congestion it might create (and what they said was a dearth of affordable housing) that they staged an Occupy the Mayor's Office on the evening of the Boston Redevelopment Authority's vote. The BRA voted for Simon and the Copley Place tower took its place amongst the city's building boom. Now what? If it's a financing problem, that could be a sign of bad news for every other big project attempting to move forward.
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Aw, boo! Hopefully the postponement is short.
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It looks a bit like Trump's tower in Chicago. Pretty cool design.

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Old March 7th, 2013, 12:03 AM   #19
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About That 47-Story Condo Tower Over Copley Place...




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Remember this one? The city O.K.'d the 47-story, 318-condo addition to Copley Place in November 2011, despite an "Occupy the Mayor's Office" effort by residents concerned about the tower's affordability and the shadows it might cast. It was to be the tallest condo tower in Boston (this was before the Millennium Tower was announced). Then, about a year later, plans for the Copley Place spire went poof, as the developer, mall-making giant Simon Property Group, suspended its development plans. It was cryptic re: the motives for the suspensions.

All Simon said, basically, was that it wanted to reevaluate its plans, and never mind the bafflement of pols who had supported the tower against the local opposition. Now! It looks like the Copley Place tower is back on, but as rentals rather than condos. Here was Simon chairman and C.E.O. David Simon in a February earnings call for the publicly traded company:

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We're still designing the building. And we may need—because of that design, we may need to go back through some administrative approvals that we don't think will be a big deal. But the idea that we're circling right now is to do mostly rentals, though there will be some condo element to it. And so you'd have essentially a hybrid building.
Simon has been otherwise mum on plans for restarting the Copley Place tower (we'll let you know if we hear back from them). But it's likely, given the fertile environment for apartment-building in Boston...
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Back in early March, we broke the news that the 47-story tower atop Copley Place appeared to be back on as rentals rather than condos. Recall that the city O.K.'d the tower in November 2011, despite an "Occupy the Mayor's Office" effort by residents concerned about the tower's affordability and the shadows it might cast. About a year later, the plans went poof, as the developer, mall-making giant Simon Property Group, suspended its development plans.

The Boston Courant's Zack Huffman reports that Simon will unveil detailed plans for what would be the tallest apartment tower in Boston at a community meeting on Wednesday (ostensibly, the developer took to heart the concerns of area residents and are trying to incorporate those concerns in any changes). What the Copley Place tower looks like now, before those detailed plans are out: a 625 feet high; 318 apartments, 48 of which designated as affordable; and 115,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space. That puts it at the same height as the Millennium Tower, which is to be the city's tallest condo spire.
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