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Old October 17th, 2013, 02:50 AM   #2221
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Great pics geogregor. How much did your hire car cost?
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What is the difference between US and state highways?
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Old October 17th, 2013, 12:10 PM   #2223
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What is the difference between US and state highways?
The US highways are equivalent of national roads in Europe while state highways are maintained by the states, something like "droga wojewodzka" in Poland or provincial roads in Spain. I don't think there is equivalent of that in the UK.

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Thanks. Car rental costed me $490 for 14 days, all insurance included, bargain if you ask me. For that money I wouldn't get small compact in Poland.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 12:19 PM   #2224
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Ok, some of desolate highways












back to US Hwy 50






On higher elevations we did experience a snowfall




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Old October 17th, 2013, 01:32 PM   #2225
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Old October 17th, 2013, 02:17 PM   #2226
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The US highways are equivalent of national roads in Europe while state highways are maintained by the states, something like "droga wojewodzka" in Poland or provincial roads in Spain. I don't think there is equivalent of that in the UK.
In fact, Interstate Highways, US Highways and State Highways are all maintained and operated by the states. Chargeable Interstate routes are financed by the federal government, but not all Interstates are funded by the federal government.

The way the road network is operated also varies by state. Most states have State Highways and County Roads, but states like Virginia maintain every road (thus there are no county roads).

I think the U.S. situation is quite comparable to Germany. In Germany, the federal roads roads are federally funded, but operated and maintained by the states. Germany also has a large network of state routes and county roads.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 04:25 PM   #2227
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That's right. The "US Highway" system was actually established in the 20s as a way to identify the routes of national importance and make sure they were given appropriate priority by the states (so if a route connecting two major cities passed through a third state between them, that state wouldn't just ignore it to focus on routes that were more important to it...) This happened in an agreement among state highway officials, no federal involvement at all. Strictly speaking, the term "federal highway"'s wrong.

European analogy would be E-routes, if anything. Except that the states don't ignore them.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #2228
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That's right. The "US Highway" system was actually established in the 20s as a way to identify the routes of national importance and make sure they were given appropriate priority by the states (so if a route connecting two major cities passed through a third state between them, that state wouldn't just ignore it to focus on routes that were more important to it...) This happened in an agreement among state highway officials, no federal involvement at all. Strictly speaking, the term "federal highway"'s wrong.

European analogy would be E-routes, if anything. Except that the states don't ignore them.
Ooo I didn't know that.
So there is really no funding from the feds for the US routes?
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Old October 17th, 2013, 05:46 PM   #2229
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I think US routes are eligible for federal funding for particular projects, but not any more so than state routes are. Legally, they're just state routes numbered according to a national system. (Which is why there are none in Alaska and Hawaii - there's no need for them.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...bered_Highways
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The feds put money towards the NHS (National Highway System), which a US route may, or may not, be part of.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 06:42 PM   #2231
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Well, you can also find (in stuff I read like 30 years ago) about so-called Federal Aid Projects going back to the beginning of the automobile age, which could be US or state routes (or unnumbered, for all I know).
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Ok some from the Great Basin, this time heading from Ely via Baker towards Beaver in Utah


















Nevada Hwy 487 changes to Utah Hwy 21


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Great shots! I bet you underestimate the distances in those valleys. I think could take 20 - 30 minutes to cross one.
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I bet it'd be over an hour... I don't know what the altitude is of those mountains...
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I bet it'd be over an hour... I don't know what the altitude is of those mountains...
It is true that it is easy to underestimate distances there but it is not thaaat far.
It obviously varies but it takes probably about 15 minutes on average (with decent speed) to cross the valley floor but then it takes as much to climb to the pass and then to go down again.
Mountain passes are between 6500 and 8000 feet (2000-2500m) above the sea level while the valley floors are only few hundred meters lower.
I have to say I love driving in such landscapes.
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Great photos indeed. Utah is amazing.
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Utah is truly amazing however most of the photos are from Nevada
Only the last set is from Utah.
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Illiana Expressway IL/IN

MPO Policy Committee approves Illiana Corridor proposal

On October 17, the MPO Policy Committee voted 11 in favor and 8 opposed, formally approving the proposed Illiana Corridor as an amendment to the GO TO 2040 plan's list of fiscally constrained major capital projects. On October 9, the CMAP Board had voted 10 to 4 not to approve the proposal.
The Illiana Expressway was approved and is now part of the GO TO 2040 plan for metropolitan Chicago. The Illiana Expressway is opposed by the CMAP board, but was approved by the MPO Committee, so opinions about the project are quite divergent within the planning organization.

The Illiana Expressway will run from I-55 at Wilmington to I-65 east of Lowell. About ¾ of the route is located in Illinois.

The project is critized because of its financial viability and need. The Illiana Expressway connects almost nothing in southern Will County, which has seen virtually no growth over the last few decades. It is highly doubtful that this expressway will attract any significant traffic. It's too far south to alleviate I-80 and runs through undeveloped farmland.
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Missouri State Route 364, St. Louis suburbs

The "Page Avenue extension" project in St. Charles County (suburban St. Louis). It extends State Route 364 as a freeway to I-64 near Lake St. Louis.

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