daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old March 22nd, 2014, 10:22 PM   #2441
diablo234
Oh No He Didn't
 
diablo234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,297

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winged Robot View Post
The thing that really bothers me about the 460 upgrade is that it adds no new connections. Richmond and Hampton Roads are already well connected by a highway. Once the highway is widened and a new crossing is built, the current highway should be able to get the job done fine for a long time. I'd be much happier to see our limited highway funds go towards constructing a highway from Hampton Roads that connects it to somewhere new like Raleigh or even Emporia. I'd suggest cities like Wilmington or some place on the Eastern Shore, but local leaders like to see any new highway operate as an evacuation route. Going to some other nearby coastal community isn't really getting of dodge.
While you bring up a few good points, I think the main reason why VDOT is considering upgrading US 460 is because I-64 and I-664 have capacity issues especially around the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel and the Monitor–Merrimac Bridge–Tunnel which can't be easily expanded so upgrading US 460 from Richmond-Petersburg to Norfolk-Virginia Beach would allow traffic destined for those cities to bypass the tunnels completely.

That being said I think an Interstate connection leading from Norfolk-Virginia Beach to Emporia would be a better use of resources since it would allow traffic from/to the south to have easier access.
diablo234 no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old March 22nd, 2014, 10:46 PM   #2442
emyrr3096
Registered User
 
emyrr3096's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,547
Likes (Received): 520

M-46 during Winter
__________________
3410x6310
emyrr3096 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 24th, 2014, 04:06 PM   #2443
JimInJersey
Registered User
 
JimInJersey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Delaware Valley, USA
Posts: 82
Likes (Received): 99

We did 460 from Norfolk out to I-295 last July. It wasn't that bad then, but I could see it could be a horror in bad weather or if an accident closed it. Four lanes, not divided, and no shoulders for much of the distance...


US 460 in Virginia 2 by Jimbo in Jersey, on Flickr


US 460 In Virginia 3 by Jimbo in Jersey, on Flickr


US 460 In Virginia 1 by Jimbo in Jersey, on Flickr
__________________

suburbicide, geometarkv liked this post
JimInJersey no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 24th, 2014, 05:08 PM   #2444
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,613
Likes (Received): 19406

According to VDOT the 2012 AADT on US 460 is only 10,000 - 13,000 vehicles per day between Petersburg and Suffulk. They wouldn't even consider a four-lane highway for that in the Netherlands

The most urgent problem with the current road is the fact that it is undivided, not the volume of traffic.
ChrisZwolle está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old March 24th, 2014, 09:12 PM   #2445
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,613
Likes (Received): 19406

SR-520, Seattle

The Evergreen Point Floating Bridge is currently being replaced by a new six-lane bridge. Construction is really taking shape now.

image hosted on flickr

Mar. 20, 2014 – New SR 520 east approach takes shape by WSDOT, on Flickr

image hosted on flickr

Mar. 20, 2014 – Old and new, coexisting together by WSDOT, on Flickr

image hosted on flickr

Mar. 20, 2014 – Balanced cantilever construction continues at Pier 1 by WSDOT, on Flickr
ChrisZwolle está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old March 26th, 2014, 01:38 AM   #2446
Professor L Gee
Fan of skylines, highways
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Newport News, VA (hometown); Raleigh, NC (current)
Posts: 257
Likes (Received): 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
According to VDOT the 2012 AADT on US 460 is only 10,000 - 13,000 vehicles per day between Petersburg and Suffulk. They wouldn't even consider a four-lane highway for that in the Netherlands

The most urgent problem with the current road is the fact that it is undivided, not the volume of traffic.
There are plans to bypass/replace it with a tolled facility just to the south. I don't recall if it's been discussed yet, but project details are here.
__________________
Linguist by trade, roadfan since childhood

US Top 50 Cities inhabited, visited, or passed through:
1 - New York
5 - Philadelphia
12 - Jacksonville
14 - Columbus
17 - Charlotte
21 - Washington
23 - Detroit
25 - Nashville

30 - Baltimore
31 - Milwaukee
38 - Atlanta
41 - Raleigh
42 - Miami
43 - Virginia Beach
36 to go...

Professor L Gee no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 26th, 2014, 11:19 AM   #2447
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,613
Likes (Received): 19406

That's what the discussion was about. The project is on-hold for now.
ChrisZwolle está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 10:07 AM   #2448
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,613
Likes (Received): 19406

Queensboro Bridge

The Queensboro Bridge in New York turns 105 years today.

It opened on 3/30/1909. Although functionally obsolete, its condition still very good, much better than many bridges 50 years younger. I think this is due to the fact that these bridges were built with a greater margin of error, so they are "overbuilt" compared to bridges from the 1950s and 1960s, which are now being replaced on an increasingly larger scale. Many railroad bridges from the 19th century are still in use today.

__________________

my clinched highways / travel mapping • highway photography @ Flickr and Youtube

ko7, cuartango, geometarkv, brewerfan386 liked this post
ChrisZwolle está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 09:19 PM   #2449
JohnFlint1985
I love New York
 
JohnFlint1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York - New Jersey
Posts: 15,621
Likes (Received): 6562

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
The Queensboro Bridge in New York turns 105 years today.

It opened on 3/30/1909. Although functionally obsolete, its condition still very good, much better than many bridges 50 years younger. I think this is due to the fact that these bridges were built with a greater margin of error, so they are "overbuilt" compared to bridges from the 1950s and 1960s, which are now being replaced on an increasingly larger scale. Many railroad bridges from the 19th century are still in use today.

they used different steel back then and this bridge was twice repaired extensively. funnily enough the steel they use today is closer to 100 old standards than to the ones in 1950s.
__________________
RIP QuantumX & Desertpunk

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.” Thomas Jefferson
"We Shall Never Surrender." Winston Churchill
“Not all those who wander are lost.” J.R.R. Tolkien
"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." Oscar Wilde
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
JohnFlint1985 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 31st, 2014, 01:34 AM   #2450
Paddington
Registered User
 
Paddington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Southland
Posts: 4,665
Likes (Received): 1261

That Queensboro Bridge is damned ugly. I hate the way it straddles Roosevelt Island.



This is Cornell's planned ultra modern Tech Campus in NYC on Roosevelt Island. And that big ugly thing bisecting the island in two is the Queensboro bridge.
Paddington no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 31st, 2014, 01:38 AM   #2451
Innsertnamehere
insertoronto
 
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,961
Likes (Received): 681

the least they could do is give it a paint job..
Innsertnamehere no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 1st, 2014, 06:36 AM   #2452
I-275westcoastfl
Registered User
 
I-275westcoastfl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bellevue, WA
Posts: 6,148
Likes (Received): 790

That must be an old pic because it was re-painted not too long ago. The bridge is actually pretty nice in person, lots of details.



__________________

AnOldBlackMarble, geometarkv liked this post
I-275westcoastfl no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 2nd, 2014, 12:55 AM   #2453
Tommy Boy
MEGATALLS for AMERICA
 
Tommy Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 264
Likes (Received): 112

Very ugly bridge for a city as New York
__________________
SUCKER FOR HEIGHTS, ROOF HEIGHTS. THATS WHAT MATTERS


http://www.twintowersalliance.com/images/Golden_Towers.png
Tommy Boy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 2nd, 2014, 12:32 PM   #2454
geogregor
Registered User
 
geogregor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London
Posts: 15,531
Likes (Received): 19211

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Boy View Post
Very ugly bridge for a city as New York
Come on, it has its charm. It is a proper old school-bridge.

Does every bridge has to look Caltrava-esque?
geogregor no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 2nd, 2014, 06:24 PM   #2455
diablo234
Oh No He Didn't
 
diablo234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,297

I actually like the Queensboro bridge since it has a lot of character.

After a while those new cable-stayed bridges tend to get boring with little to no design variation.
diablo234 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 2nd, 2014, 06:36 PM   #2456
suburbicide
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 423
Likes (Received): 247

I really like the Queensboro bridge.
suburbicide no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2014, 05:48 AM   #2457
Scba
Registered User
 
Scba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: US
Posts: 1,590
Likes (Received): 1421

It's very New York.
Scba no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 8th, 2014, 04:15 PM   #2458
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,613
Likes (Received): 19406

Tacoma Narrows Bridge

The Tacoma Narrows Bridge near Seattle.

__________________

my clinched highways / travel mapping • highway photography @ Flickr and Youtube

cuartango liked this post
ChrisZwolle está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old April 9th, 2014, 02:53 AM   #2459
Innsertnamehere
insertoronto
 
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,961
Likes (Received): 681

Its funny how some of the most famous bridges in the US aren't interstates... Golden Gate, Tacoma Narrows, Queensboro bridge, Even the Brooklyn bridge isn't signed as an Interstate I don't think.
Innsertnamehere no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 11th, 2014, 07:45 PM   #2460
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,613
Likes (Received): 19406

US 421 Milton-Madison Bridge

The Milton-Madison Bridge across the Ohio River was slid into position over the past two days. They slid the bridge from the temporary piers onto the permanent piers. They say it's the largest bridge slide ever performed in the U.S. and possibly the world.

Timelapse video:

__________________

my clinched highways / travel mapping • highway photography @ Flickr and Youtube

Aenedor liked this post
ChrisZwolle está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
united states

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 05:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium