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Old November 12th, 2014, 01:54 PM   #2661
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Old November 14th, 2014, 11:57 PM   #2662
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Loop 101, Phoenix, AZ

There are plans to widen a 13 mile segment of Loop 101 in Phoenix, Arizona. The study runs from I-17 to Princess Drive. The plan is to add 2 general purpose lanes in each direction between I-17 and 7th Avenue and 1 general purpose lane in each direction further east to Princess Drive.

This will mean 12 lanes from I-17 to 7th Ave and 10 lanes further to Princess Drive. Phoenix shows you don't need tolls everywhere to fund large highway projects.

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Old November 15th, 2014, 02:18 AM   #2663
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Phoenix shows you don't need tolls everywhere to fund large highway projects.
I'm not challenging you on that...I mean, I don't like tolls and the sort of toll-mania that has set in in some parts of this country (and elsewhere). But I wonder how they do it? I can't believe Arizona, or any county or municipality in it, is a high-tax jurisdiction; that wouldn't be consistent with the area's habitual politics. Is it due to the area's rapid growth? Are they short-changing other things? Honest questions - I don't know the answers.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 02:23 AM   #2664
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I would imagine Phoenix spends less on road maintenance given the climate. That could be a huge money saver.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 02:25 AM   #2665
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True... But less than Texas or Florida?
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Old November 15th, 2014, 02:27 AM   #2666
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The Taxes are high in Texas?
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Old November 15th, 2014, 02:29 AM   #2667
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Houston and Miami wouldn't spend any more money than Phoenix on clearing snow. But a lot of their newer freeways (well, Miami's anyway) are toll roads.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 04:33 AM   #2668
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I'm not challenging you on that...I mean, I don't like tolls and the sort of toll-mania that has set in in some parts of this country (and elsewhere). But I wonder how they do it? I can't believe Arizona, or any county or municipality in it, is a high-tax jurisdiction; that wouldn't be consistent with the area's habitual politics. Is it due to the area's rapid growth? Are they short-changing other things? Honest questions - I don't know the answers.
Compared to the shit roads in Canada the health-care system factor is huge (over 50% of provincial budgets)

I think in Phoenix there is a large sales tax that is sent to roads only
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Old November 15th, 2014, 07:28 AM   #2669
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Phoenix Freeways kick Ass

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202 freeway Interchange



the new 303/I10 interchange



the new 24/202 interchange

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Old November 15th, 2014, 11:18 AM   #2670
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Yes, Phoenix has a regional sales tax dedicated to highways. It's quite a powerful fund given the large number of wide freeways they've built with it.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 09:49 PM   #2671
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True... But less than Texas or Florida?
I would say so, both Texas and Florida can get brutal rainstorms which wash out roads and create potholes. Both states have a significant part of the population living on unstable ground like limestone which damages roads too.
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Old November 16th, 2014, 12:00 AM   #2672
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Is any part of the Florida Turnpike subject to sinkhole risk?
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Old November 16th, 2014, 07:23 AM   #2673
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It might also be the local culture; people in Phoenix WANT roads regardless of where their other political views lie.
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An Outer Route is planned for Lubbock, Texas.

http://www.txdot.gov/inside-txdot/pr...ter-route.html

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Old November 18th, 2014, 10:37 PM   #2675
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It might also be the local culture; people in Phoenix WANT roads regardless of where their other political views lie.
I think that counts for most people, given 90% of Americans drive to work, a far higher percentage than who vote either Republican or Democrat.

Highway policy is too politicized. Everybody across the political spectrum - save for a minor fringe - benefits from better roads. Which is also why I don't understand the attack on suburbia in some states (hello California!). You win or lose the elections in suburbia, not in the core cities and not in rural areas.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 11:28 PM   #2676
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SR-520, Seattle, WA

The Evergreen Point Floating Bridge as of November 15.


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Old November 18th, 2014, 11:42 PM   #2677
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That was taken when they closed the highway for the construction. Every other weekend, it's closed.

Even with the new bridge span, I dunno what they are going to do with the 4 lane segment between the bridge and I-5. Total mess.
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Is any part of the Florida Turnpike subject to sinkhole risk?
For the most part yes.
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Loop 335, Amarillo, TX

A new upgrade of Loop 335 around the southern side of Amarillo, Texas is planned. A $ 30 million project would expand Loop 335 to a freeway west of I-27. There already is a project started to rebuild Loop 335 into a freeway east of I-27. The segment west of I-27 could go to tender by September 2016. The plan calls for a 3-level interchange with I-27.

http://www.newschannel10.com/story/2...-major-project

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