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Old August 26th, 2009, 09:56 PM   #461
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The MTA barely sees a dime.
That's not exactly true:

"On an average day, more than 800,000 vehicles use the nine crossings, generating approximatly $ 1.3 billion in annual toll revenue"

That's over 10% of the total MTA budget (which is 12.4 billion $$$) and not taking other factors in account such as gas tax.
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Old August 27th, 2009, 12:53 AM   #462
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That's not exactly true:

"On an average day, more than 800,000 vehicles use the nine crossings, generating approximatly $ 1.3 billion in annual toll revenue"

That's over 10% of the total MTA budget (which is 12.4 billion $$$) and not taking other factors in account such as gas tax.
Like I said, barely a dime (all things considered). $1.3 billion out of $23.4 billion, if you run the numbers (@ $8/vehicle). That's only 5.5%. As a comparison, Transport for London gets 9% of its revenue from congestion charging - with one-eighth the number of vehicles.

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Old August 27th, 2009, 07:22 AM   #463
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Holland Tunnel, Lincoln Tunnel, GW Bridge only have tolls eastbound and are free westbound. And getting into Manhattan toll-free from Long Island or the Bronx is no problem either.

Don't know about NJ. I-78, 80 all have tolls westbound accross the Delaware. Palisades, over to Rt 17, 84, 81, back to 80 would probably mean paying 2x as much for gas to save a few bucks on tolls, but yeah, it could be done.
Going westward from NYC (Manhattan), ALL of the Hudson River crossings going west from Manhattan are *FREE*, however, one will have to work his or her way to one of only a small handful of *FREE* Delaware River crossings to leave New Jersey westbound without a toll. The BEST way is to head southwestward on US 1 to the Trenton area and then cross the Delaware on I-95 (*FREE*).

OTOH, coming INTO NYC (Manhattan) from the west without paying a toll is a much longer proposition. The southernmost *FREE* eastbound Hudson River crossing is US 9/20 at Albany/Rensselaer. Then one has to work his or her way via back roads to the northernmost interchange on the Taconic State Parkway, using that all the way to its south end in the Bronx and then follow I-95 into Manhattan. This is for someone in a car. In a big-rig truck, it will involve using two-lane state highways nearly the whole way from Rensselaer to NYC.

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Old September 5th, 2009, 03:23 AM   #464
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I just looked at US 101 north of San Fransisco, and I must say that highway has some really breath taking views.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 09:43 PM   #465
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U.S. Route 6 in Nevada. AADT: 200
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Old September 9th, 2009, 02:01 AM   #466
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Old September 9th, 2009, 02:07 AM   #467
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Old September 9th, 2009, 03:18 AM   #468
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U.S. Route 6 in Nevada. AADT: 200
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Old September 9th, 2009, 02:40 PM   #469
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There was a great Top Gear episode some time ago (Series 12, Episode 2) with Dodge Challenger, Chevrolet Corvette and Cadillac CTS-V being tested at Lake Bonneville, but they started the trip in San Francisco and rode through "the loneliest road in America" (highway 50). Great fun for US-roads maniacs, even watching it only via TV

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Old September 9th, 2009, 02:48 PM   #470
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US 50 is not the loneliest road. It was a pejorative term brought up by the Life magazine in 1986, but turned into a advertising slogan by the state of Nevada. It's not based on actual traffic counts.

The U.S. Route 6 between Tonopah and Ely has lower traffic counts than U.S. Route 50 between Fallon and Ely and also fewer towns in between (none).

However, I think we can easily conclude that both roads are extremely remote and lonely.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 07:45 AM   #471
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Route 19 in WV







Now to what makes this road famous; the New River Gorge Bridge











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Old September 12th, 2009, 03:45 PM   #472
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Old September 12th, 2009, 06:24 PM   #473
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Route 19 in WV







Now to what makes this road famous; the New River Gorge Bridge











Also see:
http://www.usmint.gov/historianscorn...etail&id=29176



HOWEVER, I generally recommend against using that part of US 19 as a cross-country through route, there is a very corrupt city along the way (Summersville, WV) that loves to set up what are essentially 'tollgate' style speed enforcement traps on it.



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Old September 12th, 2009, 07:46 PM   #474
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HOWEVER, I generally recommend against using that part of US 19 as a cross-country through route, there is a very corrupt city along the way (Summersville, WV) that loves to set up what are essentially 'tollgate' style speed enforcement traps on it.



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Yeah, they really only pull over out-of-staters and especially Canadians. The money generated from that built a new civic center for the town.

Also, a few years ago, a local businessman had billboards put up where 19 enters and exits summersville saying "Now entering the world's largest speed-trap" and "Now leaving the world's largest speed-trap"

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/07/786.asp
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Old September 12th, 2009, 08:17 PM   #475
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U.S. Route 6 in Nevada. AADT: 200
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Opening up Google Earth to see how long that straight stretch is.



21.05 miles = 33.88km.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 08:25 PM   #476
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US 412 in the Oklahoma Panhandle runs straight for 65 miles. US 54 runs straight for 70 miles between Dalhart and Guymon (TX / OK)
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Old September 13th, 2009, 04:31 AM   #477
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I drove this year about 29km straight on UT24 (between Hanksville and Green River).
That's where I went over 100 mph first time in my life
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Old September 13th, 2009, 10:29 PM   #478
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You can go >100 mph on every normal freeway.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 03:42 AM   #479
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You can go >100 mph on every normal freeway.
Try doing it in congested LA. Good luck and good by

The best about this stretch of road was that it was almost completely empty and at evening when I drove it, you could see the little oncoming traffic from miles away (due to headlights). So no chance for a speed trap or marauding copper
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Try doing it in congested LA. Good luck and good by

The best about this stretch of road was that it was almost completely empty and at evening when I drove it, you could see the little oncoming traffic from miles away (due to headlights). So no chance for a speed trap or marauding copper
Truth is, you can test your speed on many western US highways, even freeways, with low odds of being caught. I'm not advocating it, but you can do it with very little chance of being caught, and little chance of putting anyone else in danger. Doesn't make it right, but, well, you get the idea.
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