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Old October 5th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #1221
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Sounds like you enjoyed your trip then.

Anyways great pics, it makes me want to check out the Upper Peninsula of Michigan someday.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 02:48 AM   #1222
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Sounds like you enjoyed your trip then.

Anyways great pics, it makes me want to check out the Upper Peninsula of Michigan someday.
I found Upper and Lower Michigan very interesting. More even than I anticipated. It became one of my favorite states.

Now few remaining photos of highways, this time Ohio.
Kilka ujec z Ohio
American roads signs are very logical and easy to follow. For some reasons I love taking pictures of them


Some of the county highways west of Toledo








It's really easy to navigate with good map. As I am a map geek I refuse to use satnav






border Ohio and Michigan in the middle of nowhere


US Hwy 20


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Old October 6th, 2011, 03:06 AM   #1223
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Geogregor, you take great photos when you are out on the road. I am really enjoying these sets.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 03:32 AM   #1224
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Geogregor, you take great photos when you are out on the road. I am really enjoying these sets.
Thanks.
I just had a look at your website. Impressive bank of images. I'm way to lazy to do so many of them
Beside I'm in USA usually on holiday so try to do not only driving all the time
Last set from this trip
Ohio and Indiana border region
Each state has its own toll road for I-80/I-90




I had all day to get to Chicago sa I chose some US and Indiana highways.
I was surprised by the amount of truck traffic on US20 and US6. Do truckers use them as free alternative to tolled I-80/I-90??


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It's amazing how empty some roads can be so close to Chicago, here around Indiana Dunes




I've seen two designs for Indiana highways. Do they use both or one is new?




More and more roundabouts appear in the US


Wisconsin builds probably most of all the states. On the official state highway map there is even feature how to drive them. Strange thing for European


And that will be all from this year.

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Old October 6th, 2011, 04:34 AM   #1225
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Yes, very nice photos indeed.

About Indiana route markers: I thought the rectangle with just the number and the word "Indiana" was what they were using these days (although I've not actually been in the state in many years). I have, somewhere, a reprint Rand McNally did (probably in 1974) of their 1926 road atlas. (The occasion was the 50th anniversary of the first one, but they couldn't find a '24 or '25. ) That atlas has marker illustrations and shows Indiana using a state outline at the time, if I'm not mistaken. So maybe they've recently gone retro, or decided to use something that's less boring and doesn't look like what's used in Illinois.... Did you see lots of those or was it a one-off?

I've asked the question at AARoads, with a link to your post. Hope you don't mind.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 04:52 AM   #1226
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Seattle's Alaskan Way Viaduct Demolition

End of an era indeed. Announcement from the Washington State Department of Transportation:

Commemorative walk on the viaduct -- Oct. 22

When the Alaskan Way Viaduct closes for nine days starting Oct. 21, it will signal the end of an era as crews begin to demolish the structure's southern mile. The public is invited to watch firsthand as this historic event unfolds and participate in a rare walk on the viaduct.

For a few hours on Saturday, Oct. 22, the public can walk onto the top deck of the viaduct’s south end, enjoy great views of the city from the structure that helped shape Seattle’s waterfront, and watch as crews continue demolishing large sections of the viaduct in SODO.

Public demolition event
Saturday, Oct. 22
9:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. - Walk on the viaduct
1 to 2 p.m. – Local elected officials will make remarks to celebrate this major milestone.
Construction area north of 1051 First Ave. S.
No RSVPs are required, but some restrictions apply. Please wear sturdy shoes and be prepared for late October weather. No pets or bicycles are allowed onsite. Children under 18 must be accompanied by an adult. The event will be ADA accessible. Parking is available on adjacent city streets and in nearby pay lots.



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Old October 6th, 2011, 05:13 AM   #1227
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Wisconsin builds probably most of all the states. On the official state highway map there is even feature how to drive them. Strange thing for European
Roundabouts have only recently begun to appear in the US, hence why alot of people in the US are still unfamiliar with them, however more and more states have been installing them usually by converting them from 3 or 4-way stop sign intersections.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 05:22 AM   #1228
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Roundabouts have only recently begun to appear in the US, hence why alot of people in the US are still unfamiliar with them, however more and more states have been installing them usually by converting them from 3 or 4-way stop sign intersections.
I hate those... they are confusing and more dangerous. You have to be very careful both watching yourself and keeping an eye on others who decide not to yield.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 05:24 AM   #1229
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End of an era indeed. Announcement from the Washington State Department of Transportation:

Commemorative walk on the viaduct -- Oct. 22

When the Alaskan Way Viaduct closes for nine days starting Oct. 21, it will signal the end of an era as crews begin to demolish the structure's southern mile. The public is invited to watch firsthand as this historic event unfolds and participate in a rare walk on the viaduct.

For a few hours on Saturday, Oct. 22, the public can walk onto the top deck of the viaduct’s south end, enjoy great views of the city from the structure that helped shape Seattle’s waterfront, and watch as crews continue demolishing large sections of the viaduct in SODO.

Public demolition event
Saturday, Oct. 22
9:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. - Walk on the viaduct
1 to 2 p.m. – Local elected officials will make remarks to celebrate this major milestone.
Construction area north of 1051 First Ave. S.
No RSVPs are required, but some restrictions apply. Please wear sturdy shoes and be prepared for late October weather. No pets or bicycles are allowed onsite. Children under 18 must be accompanied by an adult. The event will be ADA accessible. Parking is available on adjacent city streets and in nearby pay lots.



www.alaskanwayviaduct.org
Some pictures of work on the SR99 bypass in downtown Seattle:

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Bypass lanes under viaduct-1 by WSDOT, on Flickr

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SR 99 construction bypass northbound lanes by WSDOT, on Flickr

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SR 99 construction bypass and ramp looking south by WSDOT, on Flickr

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Construction bypass from above by WSDOT, on Flickr

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Side by side views by WSDOT, on Flickr
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Old October 6th, 2011, 05:26 AM   #1230
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Did you see lots of those or was it a one-off?
I've seen only two or three state outline signs, all in close proximity to Chicago metropolis. But to be honest it's hard to judge for me as I spent only one day in Indiana and only in the very northern part of it.

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I've asked the question at AARoads, with a link to your post. Hope you don't mind.
http://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5394.0
I don't mind at all.

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Yep, that's me indeed

Are they demolishing all Alaskan Viaduct or only part of it?
How about the planned tunnel? Any updates?

EDIT: don't worry about the last question, I found the website

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Old October 6th, 2011, 06:04 AM   #1231
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I hate those... they are confusing and more dangerous. You have to be very careful both watching yourself and keeping an eye on others who decide not to yield.
Appearance is not always reality...
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Old October 6th, 2011, 06:09 AM   #1232
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Roundabouts have only recently begun to appear in the US, hence why alot of people in the US are still unfamiliar with them, however more and more states have been installing them usually by converting them from 3 or 4-way stop sign intersections.
Exactly, I love roundabouts and I think that if people learned to use them properly they would be great replacements for some traffic signaled intersections. It would be great instead of sitting 3-5 minutes at a light on some of the artery roads here I could just slow down make my way through or turn on a roundabout and keep going without stopping.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 09:47 AM   #1233
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Believe it or not roundabouts are safer than normal intersections since it reduces the risk of a head on or right angle collision. Plus vehicles using a roundabout are travelling at a slower speed compared with your normal four way intersection.
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Old October 6th, 2011, 10:57 AM   #1234
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US Hwy 41 getting close to Copper Harbor.
Fantastic drive for Mustang



What's the deal with those 'No Passing Zone' signs? The line markings say its legal to overtake but the signs say no?
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Old October 6th, 2011, 11:43 AM   #1235
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I hate those... they are confusing and more dangerous. You have to be very careful both watching yourself and keeping an eye on others who decide not to yield.
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Believe it or not roundabouts are safer than normal intersections since it reduces the risk of a head on or right angle collision. Plus vehicles using a roundabout are travelling at a slower speed compared with your normal four way intersection.
Yep, this is what traffic engineers in Europe see as "those dumb Americans who never really learned how to drive". It's known fact that roundabouts are much safer than intersections and the American traffic fatality rate is much higher than elsewhere in the developed world.
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What's the deal with those 'No Passing Zone' signs? The line markings say its legal to overtake but the signs say no?
If you look carefully the "No Passing Zone" sign is where solid yellow line starts for the lane traveling in the direction of the sign.
It's on the left hand side of the road to emphasize message for drivers. On the right there is white sign "Do Not Pass"
In some states you have only yellow triangle on the left, in some only the white signs, Michigan uses both.
With rumble strips, passing lanes, good signing, generally good surface, I have to say Michigan has much better road than I expected. Definitely better than Illinois.
I also realized that when we move north in the state, the roads (especially surface) are getting better.

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If you look carefully the "No Passing Zone" sign is where solid yellow line starts for the lane traveling in the direction of the sign.
Forgot about right-hand drive, my apologies.

Different question - why do they need signs if the line markings already say that?!
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Roundabouts have only recently begun to appear in the US, hence why alot of people in the US are still unfamiliar with them, however more and more states have been installing them usually by converting them from 3 or 4-way stop sign intersections.
Thats not true , the Northeastern states have had Roundabouts in all shapes and sizes since the beginning of roads...
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Except there's this whole debate about the difference between "traffic circles" like New Jersey has (Massachusetts calls them "rotaries"), and "roundabouts," which are (so I'm told) smaller and handled differently.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=254301

http://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5360.0
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Old October 6th, 2011, 03:43 PM   #1240
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Now I know that Michigan is not a flat state, but hilly with curvy roads. It's presumably more fun to drive here, than in Texas ?

The autumn landscape, birches and other vegetation looks very scandinavian to me, probably the weather too.
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