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Old November 12th, 2011, 07:09 AM   #1361
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Old November 12th, 2011, 04:07 PM   #1362
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replacing an old two-lane low-level lift bridge that is in serious danger of catastrophic failure within the near-term future. Environmentalists are vigorously trying to prevent this from being built.
Why do they oppose it? Any site specific objections or just usual anti road crap?
If old bridge is really in risk of collapse they don't have choice and this bridge has to be build. They should remember Minneapolis bridge collapse.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 05:10 PM   #1363
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Why do they oppose it? Any site specific objections or just usual anti road crap?
If old bridge is really in risk of collapse they don't have choice and this bridge has to be build. They should remember Minneapolis bridge collapse.
I'm guessing anti-road crap.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #1364
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And that close to Minneapolis, the 35W collapse would have been local news. I'd think if someone said a bridge was in danger of collapse, people around there would take it very seriously.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 08:10 PM   #1365
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I'm guessing anti-road crap.
Yea....

That and the envirowackos are in a snot snit over that part of the Saint Croix River having some sort of federal protection on it. The national Sierra Klub has made preventing that bridge from being built a 'causes celebre', one of their very top priorities, ever since the idea of replacing the old crossing was first suggested several decades ago. The Minneapolis area is somewhat overpopulated with envirowackos, when compared with other USA metros, too.



I agree, this bridge won't hurt anything, it is badly needed and should be built.

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Old November 13th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #1367
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Especially since it seems the planning committee has bent over backwards to accommodate any environmental concerns this type of bridge would have. I would also note that environmental groups participated in the planning committee, according to the credits for the video.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 03:10 AM   #1368
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Environmentalists are vigorously trying to prevent this from being built.
why?
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Old November 14th, 2011, 07:36 AM   #1369
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why?
Well, you gotta ask them. And to add further insult to things, if you follow MN 36 westward from this crossing (see the map that I referenced in an above posting), it feeds directly into downtown Minneapolis via I-35W - over the bridge that collapsed and was subsequently replaced a few short years ago.



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Old November 14th, 2011, 10:28 AM   #1370
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Well, you gotta ask them. And to add further insult to things, if you follow MN 36 westward from this crossing (see the map that I referenced in an above posting), it feeds directly into downtown Minneapolis via I-35W - over the bridge that collapsed and was subsequently replaced a few short years ago.



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It would be very ironic if that bridge were to suddenly collapse as that would definately cause more harm to the enviroment then just building/replacing a new bridge in the first place.

Besides there are construction techniques available that can prevent erosion/runoff from reaching the river, and they can always plant more trees/vegitation afterwards.
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Old November 15th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #1371
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Alaska Route 11 - James W.Dalton Highway












E. L. Patton Yukon River Bridge










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Atigun Pass










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Old November 15th, 2011, 12:38 AM   #1372
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what the hell is that? Is it going to be done or this is just the way it is?
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this is just the way it is
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It is Alaska, after all....
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this is just the way it is
and this is called highway? I wonder whose sick sense of humor I should thank for such a name
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Old November 15th, 2011, 02:25 AM   #1376
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Exists even the roadsign


However it's called like this since 1974. Before it was called North Slope Haul Road. It's long 414 Miles (666 Kilometers)

It's quite famous also for this roadsign: next services 240 Miles
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Old November 15th, 2011, 02:43 AM   #1377
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Here how it looks the Atigun Pass in winter on the Dalton Highway


A truck driver who works on Dalton during winter, can earn even $80.000/100.000 in three/four months
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Bayonne Bridge between New Jersey and Staten Island turns 80 today.
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Wabash HOV Tunnel, Pittsburgh

An interesting feature I found through a Freewayjim video is the Wabash HOV 2+ Tunnel under Mount Washington in Pittsburgh. It's not featured on Google Maps and if you don't know it's there, you will not find it. It was originally a railway tunnel that closed in 1944 and remained abandoned for 60 years. It was reopened in 2004 as a HOV facility. However, it's very underused, according to traffic counts, only 109 vehicles use it in the morning rush and 132 vehicles during the afternoon rush. There are plans to close it again because its maintenance costs are too high.

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Forget the 'HOV' thing, I'd open it to all cars and buses.

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