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Old May 14th, 2016, 06:00 PM   #681
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Gimpo airport is undergoing some renovations :







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UPS MD-11 Aborted Takeoff Runway Excursion
UPS flight 5X61 suffered a partial runway excursion and nose gear collapse in a takeoff accident at Seoul-Incheon International Airport (ICN). The aircraft, an McDonnell Douglas MD-11F cargo plane was bound for Anchorage, Alaska.
RWY 15R/33L CLSD DUE TO ACFT ACCIDENT. 06 JUN 14:18 2016 UNTIL 06 SEP 14:17 2016.

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Old June 11th, 2016, 04:15 PM   #683
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Some photos of the Terminal 2 construction taken 2 days ago:
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4 And also there are some shops reconstruction in the Duty Free zone of the main terminal:
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5 But the worst thing I've experienced during this visit was spending almost 2 hours in the queues on the arrival. First off all we spent 45 minutes at the tarmac waiting for our gate to be free from the departing plane (all other gates were also occupied), and after that there was one-hour queue at the immigration area:
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And a friend of mine told me that she has spent 2 hours at the immigration line in April. Thus they need to finish the T2 construction asap or they will lose all their winning positions in all these "best of the best" ratings.
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Old June 15th, 2016, 10:05 PM   #684
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New flight Palermo (Italy)-Seoul from spring 2017

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Some photos of the Terminal 2 construction taken 2 days ago:


4 And also there are some shops reconstruction in the Duty Free zone of the main terminal:


5 But the worst thing I've experienced during this visit was spending almost 2 hours in the queues on the arrival. First off all we spent 45 minutes at the tarmac waiting for our gate to be free from the departing plane (all other gates were also occupied), and after that there was one-hour queue at the immigration area:

And a friend of mine told me that she has spent 2 hours at the immigration line in April. Thus they need to finish the T2 construction asap or they will lose all their winning positions in all these "best of the best" ratings.

that is interesting two days ago photo of expansion!
Yes seoul incheon airport need expansion as soon as possible.
btw korea try to built another new 10 billions airport in south area
that is populism money waste though.




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New Airport for the Yeongnam region

First of all, I already mentioned it previously, but I will be talking on this thread about non-Seoul airports in Korea, because there are quite a few relevant developments, but they may not be big enough to warrant their own threads, especially since airport projects can take decades to move forward.

So, this is an issue that has been going gone for about a decade already (if not more), but it has been revived recently: the Yeongnam region in Southeastern Korea (also known as Gyeongsang) is looking to build a new international airport, to complement the Busan International Airport (and smaller airports as well).

Recently, there has been a lot of political tension about the project, because two locations are vying for the airport project, for which the feasibility is done by Aιroport de Paris (ADPi). One is Busan, but a fairly remote island island named Gadeokdo, actually halfway between Busan and Geoje. The other is Miryang, a small city halfway between Busan and Daegu.

Korean politics is quite conflictual overall, and very regional, as major national parties have solid claim over specific areas (the left-leaning Minjoo Party in the Jeolla region, and the conservative Saenuri Party in the East). So the whole Yeongnam region is mostly conservative. But even within the conservative party, the charismatic Busan mayor is trying to pull the new airport towards Busan, while it is thought that President Park, and most of her loyal supporters, have links to Daegu, and would benefit from having the airport in Miryang. So lots of tussling going on. And the left has also been involved. As it fares better in big cities, the Minjoo party has quite a few congressmen in Busan. And the party's leader, Moon Jae-In, also comes from west Busan, so he pushes for the airport being there as well.

Anyways, that's a lot of politics for the sake of politics, which doesn't interest me all that much. So airport is still years away from being being built (if not decades...), but it's becoming a necessity.

Gimhae Airport, serving Busan, had over 12 million passengers in 2015, and the airport has little room for expansion. It has been renovated / expanded a bit over the years, but I doubt there are proposals for completely new terminals, so it's becoming overly crowded (http://english.chosun.com/site/data/...052701187.html). Traffic was already about 10 million passengers in 2000, but it decreased to less than 7 million passengers in the mid to late 00es, with improvements in the rail network and the opening of the KTX line in two phases in 2004 and 2010. But now, after having been relieved by rail traffic for a while, traffic is expanding quickly again at the Busan-Gimhae airport, espcially for international flights.

Here are a couple of articles summing up the situation, but they mainly talk about the political ramifications rather than the project itself.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160615001064
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...13_207452.html
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160609000846
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New Airport for the Yeongnam region

First of all, I already mentioned it previously, but I will be talking on this thread about non-Seoul airports in Korea, because there are quite a few relevant developments, but they may not be big enough to warrant their own threads, especially since airport projects can take decades to move forward.

So, this is an issue that has been going gone for about a decade already (if not more), but it has been revived recently: the Yeongnam region in Southeastern Korea (also known as Gyeongsang) is looking to build a new international airport, to complement the Busan International Airport (and smaller airports as well).

Recently, there has been a lot of political tension about the project, because two locations are vying for the airport project, for which the feasibility is done by Aιroport de Paris (ADPi). One is Busan, but a fairly remote island island named Gadeokdo, actually halfway between Busan and Geoje. The other is Miryang, a small city halfway between Busan and Daegu.

Korean politics is quite conflictual overall, and very regional, as major national parties have solid claim over specific areas (the left-leaning Minjoo Party in the Jeolla region, and the conservative Saenuri Party in the East). So the whole Yeongnam region is mostly conservative. But even within the conservative party, the charismatic Busan mayor is trying to pull the new airport towards Busan, while it is thought that President Park, and most of her loyal supporters, have links to Daegu, and would benefit from having the airport in Miryang. So lots of tussling going on. And the left has also been involved. As it fares better in big cities, the Minjoo party has quite a few congressmen in Busan. And the party's leader, Moon Jae-In, also comes from west Busan, so he pushes for the airport being there as well.

Anyways, that's a lot of politics for the sake of politics, which doesn't interest me all that much. So airport is still years away from being being built (if not decades...), but it's becoming a necessity.

Gimhae Airport, serving Busan, had over 12 million passengers in 2015, and the airport has little room for expansion. It has been renovated / expanded a bit over the years, but I doubt there are proposals for completely new terminals, so it's becoming overly crowded (http://english.chosun.com/site/data/...052701187.html). Traffic was already about 10 million passengers in 2000, but it decreased to less than 7 million passengers in the mid to late 00es, with improvements in the rail network and the opening of the KTX line in two phases in 2004 and 2010. But now, after having been relieved by rail traffic for a while, traffic is expanding quickly again at the Busan-Gimhae airport, espcially for international flights.

Here are a couple of articles summing up the situation, but they mainly talk about the political ramifications rather than the project itself.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160615001064
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...13_207452.html
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160609000846
http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/...px?aid=3019870
So following all the drama and my post from yesterday, the government has, based on ADPi'ss feasibility study, proposed instead to expand the existing expo rather than build a new one...

So that tells you how Lucky a person I am... posting about a project the day before it gets cancelled. Probably not dead for ever though. The project has been called off 2 hours earlier today, but politicians are already bickering about it.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160621000822
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So now that the dust has settled a bit since yesterday, here are the new plans for the expansion of the Busan_Gimhae International airport

First of all, press recap from the Korea Herald :
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160621000913

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Korea scraps southeast airport project
Government decides to expand Busan's Gimhae Airport

Published : 2016-06-21 16:30
Updated : 2016-06-21 19:08

Amid fierce rivalry growing over a new airport in the nation’s southeast region, the government dropped the multitrillion won project on Tuesday and said it would extend the facilities of Gimhae Airport in Busan instead.

After conducting a feasibility study on candidate cities in South Gyeongsang Province, the government has reached a conclusion that extension of the existing Gimhae Airport is “the optimal choice,” rather than choosing to build a new airport on Gadeokdo Island or in Miryang, South Gyeongsang Province.

Based on a feasibility study conducted by ADPi, a French company specializing in airport architecture and engineering, the government will devise a comprehensive development plan within the year. The government plans to build more runways and extend the size of the passenger terminal, as well as improving traffic accessibility of the airport, said Transport Minister Kang Ho-in.

“The government believes that the conclusion was reached through comprehensive consideration in regard to aviation safety, economic feasibility, accessibility and environment,” he said.

The plan is said to be the best alternative to the new airport project, which was expected to cost around 10 trillion won ($8.65 billion). If renovated, Gimhae Airport would be able to handle the growing demand for air travel within the region in the future, he added.

Gadeokdo Island near Busan and Miryang have been vying for the project that residents and officials from both sides viewed as an opportunity to stimulate the growth of their local economies.

Not only the candidate cities, but also political circles, mindful of voters, jumped into the race, claiming their respective side was better suited for the project.

The presidential office has expressed concerns over a possible divide in the region, the traditional political base of the ruling conservative Saenuri Party. Politicians also feared its impact on the upcoming presidential election late next year.

The new airport project was one of President Park Geun-hye’s campaign pledges, as well as that of her predecessors. Previous administrations had given up on selecting the site for a new airport in the face of the regional rivalry.

President Park had urged officials to select the site of the new airport based on economic feasibility, not political consideration. But calls had been mounting to the nation’s top office that the president holds the key.

In an apparent attempt to quell public anger over the government canceling the project, Transport Minister Kang urged candidate cities to accept the result for the greater good.

By Cho Chung-un ([email protected])
The new project has been introduced, although it's still very early. Construction of the airport extension would begin in 2021 and be completed by 2026

- A third runway, 3200-meter long would be built just southwest of the airport as it is today
- It would be suitable for large twin-aisle aircrafts, such as the A380m the B747 or the B777
- A new terminal would be built next to the new runway. The capacity of that terminal would be 28 million people a year
- The new terminal will be dedicated to international flights, while the existing one (with a capacity of around 17 million passengers) would only cater to domestic flights
- Construction cost would be almost $4bn
- Overall, the land footprint of the airport would increase by 48 %
- A new KTX line would be built between East Daegu station and the airport, cutting travel times by 25 minutes (people from Daegu wouldn't have to go through Busan station and then take the subway)



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LOT Polish Airlines starting October 2016 launches new service to Korea, as the airline opened reservation on Warsaw – Seoul Incheon route. From 17OCT16, the Star Alliance member will operate this route 3 times a week, on board Boeing 787-8 aircraft. Following schedule is effective from 31OCT16.

LO097 WAW1440 – 0920+1ICN 788 136
LO098 ICN1050 – 1525WAW 788 247
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THAI/ASIANA Expands Codeshare Service to the US from mid-May 2016
THAI operated by ASIANA
Seoul Incheon – Los Angeles
Seoul Incheon – New York JFK
Seoul Incheon – San Francisco
Seoul Incheon – Seattle


This is THAI’s 4th codeshare partner covering US service, in addition to brussels airlines, Lufthansa and ANA.

China Eastern Adds Xi'An - Seoul Service from June 2016
China Eastern starting Late-June 2016 is introducing additional nonstop link to Korea, as the airline opened reservation for Xi’An – Seoul Incheon route, effective 20JUN16. This route is scheduled to be operated by Airbus A320 aircraft on daily basis.

MU2065 XIY1735 – 2140ICN 320 D
MU2066 ICN2240 – 0010+1XIY 320 D

China Airlines Revises Taipei - Seoul Operation July - Oct 2016
China Airlines during the month of July 2016 plans to further expand Taipei Taoyuan – Seoul Incheon operation, where overall frequency to be increased from 21 to 25 weekly, including subsidiary Mandarin Airlines service. From 01JUL16 to 31JUL16, operational schedule for the additional 4 weekly flights as follow.

CI148 TPE1830 – 2155ICN 738 x136
CI149 ICN2255 – 0030+1TPE 738 x136

On separate note, the airline also revised planned operational aircraft for CI160/161 service from 01JUL16, which will be operated by Boeing 777-300ER, instead of 747-400. CI160/161 is currently served by A330-300.

Korean Air Cargo Adds New European Routing from June 2016
Korean Air Cargo this month is adding new Cargo routing to Europe, including service between Tel Aviv and Italy. Planned new operational routing and schedule as follow.

eff 09JUN16 Seoul Incheon – Navoi – Vienna – Oslo – Seoul Incheon 1 weekly 777 Freighter
KE545 ICN0255 – 0625NVI0820 – 1110VIE1335 – 1555OSL 77X 4
KE546 OSL1815 – 1030+1ICN 77X 4

eff 11JUN16 Seoul Incheon – Tel Aviv – Milan Malpensa – Seoul Incheon 1 weekly 747 Freighter
KE591 ICN1300 – 1820TLV2040 – 2340MXP 74F 6
KE592 MXP0210 – 1950ICN 74F 7

American Plans 2-Class Boeing 777 Asia Service from Aug 2016
American Airlines recently has assigned the re-configured Boeing 777-200ER aircraft for flights to Asia, mainly out of Dallas/Ft. Worth. The 2-class -200ER is currently scheduled to operate on following routes, replacing 3-class aircraft.

eff 05AUG16 Dallas/Ft. Worth – Tokyo Narita 1 daily AA061/060 (2-cls 777-200ER operates as AA175/176 from 30OCT16, all 2 daily from 15DEC16)
eff 07SEP16 Dallas/Ft. Worth – Seoul Incheon 1 daily

Philippine Airlines Seoul Service Changes from July 2016
Philippine Airlines from 01JUL16 once again increases capacity on Manila – Seoul Incheon route, with the re-introduction of Airbus A330 aircraft on 1 of 2 daily flights. The A330 will operate the afternoon/evening PR468/469 service, replacing Airbus A321 aircraft.

PR466 MNL0100 – 0600ICN 321 D
PR468 MNL1430 – 1935ICN 330 D

PR467 ICN0810 – 1120MNL 321 D
PR469 ICN2035 – 2355MNL 330 D

From 15JUL16 to 31AUG16, PR466/467 also switches to A330 operation. From 01SEP16, PR468/469 continues to be served by A330.

T'Way Airlines Adds Da Nang Service from July 2016
South Korean carrier T’Way Airlines starting next month will launch new service to Vietnam, as it begins Seoul Incheon – Da Nang route. First flight is scheduled on 01JUL16, operated by Boeing 737 aircraft, 4 times a week.

TW125 ICN1315 – 1555DAD 737 x246
TW126 DAD1655 – 2320ICN 737 x246

Korean Air Ends Brazil Service in Sep 2016
Korean Air in Late-September 2016 is discontinuing service to Brazil, where it currently operates Seoul Incheon – Los Angeles – Sao Paulo Guarulhos route 3 times a week. The Skyteam member resumed operation on this route in June 2008. Last flight departs Sao Paulo on 24SEP16.

KE061 ICN1800 – 1335LAX1620 – 0840+1GRU 332 135
KE062 GRU1255 – 2150LAX2355 – 0515+2ICN 332 246

As a result of this adjustment, overall Seoul Incheon – Los Angeles sector will be reduced from 17 to 14 weekly. Korean Air first served Brazil in October 1992.

Air Canada Expands Toronto - Seoul Service in Jan/Feb 2017
Air Canada during the month of January and February 2017 plans to expand Toronto – Seoul Incheon operation, offering up to daily flight, instead of 4 weekly. Planned operational frequencies from Toronto as follow.

16JAN17 – 24JAN17 Daily
26JAN17 – 02FEB17 Day x15
03FEB17 – 16FEB17 Daily

This route is operated by Boeing 787-8 aircraft during winter season.

AC061 YYZ1130 – 1520+1ICN 788
AC062 ICN1650 – 1520YYZ 788

Singapore Airlines NW16 Americas Service Changes
Singapore Airlines in today’s schedule update (16JUN16) has made a number of changes to its Americas operation starting 23OCT16, including planned nonstop service resumption between Singapore and the US, Planned changes as follow.

Singapore – San Francisco NEW nonstop service with Airbus A350-900XWB, replacing 1-stop via Seoul Incheon
SQ032 SIN0830 – 0705SFO 359 D
SQ031 SFO0835 – 1820+1SIN 359 D

Singapore – Seoul Incheon – Los Angeles NEW daily service with 777-300ER. This service will replace current Seoul Incheon – San Francisco sector
SQ008 SIN0245 – 1005ICN1135 – 0545LAX 77W D
SQ007 LAX1630 – 2220+1ICN0010+2 – 0540+2SIN 77W D

SIA will continue to operate Singapore – Hong Kong – San Francisco daily service with 777-300ER

Ethiopian Airlines Hong Kong / Seoul Service Changes from July 2016
Ethiopian Airlines has scaled back planned service increase on Addis Ababa – Hong Kong – Seoul Incheon route, scheduled to commence from 01JUL16. Instead of the re-introduction of 4th weekly flight, the airline will continue to operate 3 weekly service. Overall flights to Hong Kong will remain at 6 weekly, instead of 7.

ET608 ADD2205 – 1350+1HKG1450+1 – 1955+1ICN 788 135
ET609 ICN2100 – 2345HKG0045+1 – 0645+1ADD 788 24
ET609 ICN2105 – 2345HKG0045+1 – 0645+1ADD 788 6

LOT Polish Airlines Adds Seoul Service from Oct 2016
LOT Polish Airlines starting October 2016 launches new service to Korea, as the airline opened reservation on Warsaw – Seoul Incheon route. From 17OCT16, the Star Alliance member will operate this route 3 times a week, on board Boeing 787-8 aircraft. Following schedule is effective from 31OCT16.

LO097 WAW1440 – 0920+1ICN 788 136
LO098 ICN1050 – 1525WAW 788 247
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Old July 8th, 2016, 08:20 AM   #691
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Regarding extensions at Gimhae Airport, there is an extension already currently underway at the airport. The International Terminal has been extended to the South with a new wing to its main building.

Construction seems to be almost complete but I don't exactly know when it's going to open to the public.

Of course, once the main extension is done by 2026 (see posts above), with the creation of a brand new International Terminal, the current International Passenger terminal will be used for Domestic Flights.






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FINNAIR Starts A350 Service to Seoul Incheon
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Incheon International Airport - Phase 4

In a recent interview, Incheon International Airport Corporation (IAAC) Jeong Il-yeong has announced that the airport plans to start building the 4th and final phase of the airport project as early as 2018.

Over the past few years, the airport has grown tremendously. Currently, the airport's official capacity is 54 million passengers, but passenger traffic should already reach around 55 million passengers. The completion of Phase 3 in late 2017 will absorb the additional traffic (http://www.airport.kr/iia3rd/index.jsp) and bring total capacity to 72 million passengers, but by 2020, the airport could find itself saturated again.

So IIAC has announced that it intends to start construction as early as 2018 (i'm not sure how much leverage they have though...), to keep up with the traffic growth.

The final plans for the 4th (and supposedly final) phase will be released in early 2017. From what was previously released (but is subject to change), the 4th phase will include at least one extra runway, the extension to the still not completed 2nd terminal (the "wings" on both sides of the terminal) and apparentlya smaller satellite terminal

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Delta to resume Atlanta – Seoul service from June 2017
Delta during the weekend’s schedule update has filed operational schedule for Atlanta – Seoul Incheon service resumption, announced by the airline earlier this week. It plans to operate this route from 03JUN17 with Boeing 777-200LR aircraft, on daily basis. The airline last operated this route in August 2009, with 4 weekly flights.

Reservation for this route will be available soon.

DL089 ATL1305 – 1645+1ICN 77L D
DL088 ICN1830 – 1940ATL 77L D

Aurora increases Vladivostok – Seoul service in W16
Aurora Airlines at the launch of winter 2016/17 season plans to boost operation on Vladivostok – Seoul Incheon route, where overall frequency raises from 8 to 10 weekly. Airbus A319 aircraft operates this route.

Planned schedule from 30OCT16 as follow.

SU5436 VVO1125 – 1235ICN 319 D
SU5434 VVO1900 – 2010ICN 319 2
SU5434 VVO2030 – 2140ICN 319 57

SU5437 ICN1335 – 1635VVO 319 D
SU5435 ICN2100 – 2355VVO 319 2
SU5435 ICN2230 – 0130+1VVO 319 57

Asiana Airlines W16 operation changes as of 05SEP16
Asiana Airlines last Thursday and Friday gradually adjusted planned international operation for winter 2016/17 season, effective from 30OCT16 to 25MAR17. Planned changes as of 05SEP16 as follow.

Seoul Incheon – Almaty A330-300 continues operation on/after 30OCT16, instead of 767. 2 weekly service
Seoul Incheon – Bangkok Planned increase from 1 to 2 daily for winter season remains unchanged. OZ743/744 operates with 767, while OZ741/742 sees following variation
30OCT16 – 25DEC16 777-200ER
26DEC16 – 28FEB17 A330-300
01MAR17 – 25MAR17 747-400PAX

Seoul Incheon – Chicago O’Hare
Revised operational aircraft
02NOV16 – 18NOV16 74E Day 135 772 Day 67
19NOV16 – 06JAN17 772 Day x24
eff 07JAN17 772 Day 135 77L (New 2-class -200ER) Day 67

Seoul Incheon – Da Nang A321 replaced by following aircraft
21NOV16 – 25DEC16 767
eff 26DEC16 A330-300

Seoul Incheon – Frankfurt Additional operational aircraft changes
30OCT16 – 25DEC16 Boeing 747-400PAX (Last Asiana scheduled long-haul 747 service tentatively planned on 25DEC16)
26DEC16 – 28FEB17 Boeing 777-200ER replaces 747-400PAX
eff 01MAR17 A380 operates daily, previously reported on 31AUG16

Seoul Incheon – Hong Kong OZ745/746 Day 3 (Day 4 from HKG) operated by new 2-class 777-200ER (77L), replaces A380 (from 31DEC16, Day 367 from ICN/Day 147 from HKG with 3-class 777-200ER/77W)

Seoul Incheon – Koror 21DEC16 – 26FEB17 Seasonal increase from 2 to 4 weekly, A321 service

Seoul Incheon – Manila OZ703/704 to be operated by Boeing 747-400PAX from 26DEC16, Day x235 (Day 235 by NEW 2-cls 777-200ER)
Seoul Incheon – Osaka Kansai OZ113/114 A330-300 replaces by 777-200ER (Day 24 by new 2-class)

Seoul Incheon – Sendai Daily service maintained on/after 30OCT16. Boeing 767 replaces A321 on selected dates in December 2016

Seoul Incheon – Shanghai Pu Dong Operational aircraft changes
OZ365/366 eff 26DEC16 Airbus A330-300 replaces 747-400PAX (747-400PAX on this route scheduled until 25DEC16)
OZ361/362 777-200ER replaced by following aircraft
26DEC16 – 05FEB17 A380
eff 06FEB17 A330 (All 4 daily by A330 by 06FEB17)

Seoul Incheon – Shenzhen Boeing 767 operation replaced by 321 Day 147 333 Day x147

Seoul Incheon – Sydney Except selected dates in Nov 2016 operated by A380, A330-300 is replaced by Boeing 777-200ER during following periods: 30OCT16 – 25DEC16, 01MAR17 – 25MAR17

Seoul Incheon – Taipei Taoyuan Operational aircraft changes from 22DEC16 to 04JAN17
OZ711/712 767 replaces A330-300
OZ713/714 A321 replaces 767

Seoul Incheon – Tashkent Boeing 767 continues operating 3 weekly flights, replacing A330-300

Seoul Incheon – Tianjin 7 weekly service operates with Boeing 767, replacing planned 5 weekly 767 and A321. However, Airbus A321 operates during following period: 22DEC16 – 04JAN17

Seoul Incheon – Tokyo Narita OZ104/103 A330-300 replaces 747-400COMBI

Previously reported changes:
Seoul Incheon – Christchurch NEW 1 weekly charter service with 777-200ER (77L) from 02DEC16 to 28JAN17
Seoul Incheon – Delhi Increase from 5 to 7 weekly, A330-300 service
Seoul Incheon – Los Angeles A380 operates on all 2 daily flights, replacing 1 daily each of A380 and 777-200ER

Turkish Airlines W16
Istanbul Ataturk – Seoul Incheon 03NOV16 – 24DEC16 Reduce from 11 to 10 weekly

Korean Air W16 international operation changes as of 31AUG16
Korean Air this week has revised majority of its international schedule for winter 2016/17 season, effective 30OCT16 – 25MAR17. As of 31AUG16, planned update as follow, effective dates based on Korea departure.

Seoul Incheon – Atlanta
Airbus A380 operates 3 times a week (Day 136), instead of 7 weekly. Day x136 operational aircraft changes:
30OCT16 – 31DEC16 777-300ER
01JAN17 – 28FEB17 747-8I
01MAR17 – 25MAR17 777-300ER

Seoul Incheon – Auckland Boeing 747-8I operates entire Northern winter season, from 30OCT16 to 25MAR17 (Previous plan: 02DEC16 – 28FEB17)

Seoul Incheon – Bangkok Operational aircraft changes
KE651/652 777-300 replaced by
30OCT16 – 28FEB17 747-400
01MAR17 – 25MAR17 777-300/-300ER

KE657/658 Boeing 747-400 replaces 777-300ER
KE659/660 A330-300 (No changes)
KE653/654 Seasonal 4th daily with A380 service operates from 21DEC16 to 01MAR17 (Previous plan 16DEC16 – 01MAR17)

Seoul Incheon – Dallas/Ft. Worth Boeing 777-300ER replaces -200ER, 4 weekly in winter season

Seoul Incheon – Frankfurt
30OCT16 – 28FEB17 Boeing 777-300ER replaces 747-8I

Seoul Incheon – Hanoi 01JAN17 – 31JAN17 KE679/680 Boeing 777-300ER replaces A330-300

Seoul Incheon – Istanbul Ataturk Service reduction to 3 weekly, commencing from 28SEP16, is maintained on/after 30OCT16

Seoul Incheon – Houston Reduce from 5 to 3 weekly (Day 257), Boeing 777-200ER service

Seoul Incheon – Komatsu Service continues to operate 3 weekly, instead of 4. 1 of 3 weekly service on Day 3 operates with A330-200 instead of Boeing 737-800: 25JAN17 – 22FEB17

Seoul Incheon – Milan Malpensa Boeing 777-200ER replaces planned -300ER, 3 weekly

Seoul Incheon – Nagoya KE751/752 Boeing 777-300ER replaces -200ER

Seoul Incheon – Okinawa A330-300 replaces 777-200ER during following periods:
31OCT16 – 30NOV16 Day x47
02DEC16 – 24MAR17 Day 135

Seoul Incheon – Phuket Boeing 777-300ER replaces -300 during following periods:
03JAN17 – 25FEB17 Day 246 (Day 357 from HKT)
28FEB17 – 05MAR17 Day x13 (Day x24)
06MAR17 – 25MAR17 Daily

Seoul Incheon – Rome Boeing 777-200ER replaces planned -300ER, 4 weekly

Seoul Incheon – Sapporo New Chitose Operational aircraft changes
KE765/766 Boeing 777-300ER replaces -300: 30OCT16 – 26FEB17 Day x246 27FEB17 – 25MAR17 Day x2 (Daily from 06MAR17)
KE795/796 Boeing 737-900ER replaces -800

Seoul Incheon – Seattle Boeing 777-300ER continues operating 5 weekly, replacing previously planned -200ER

Seoul Incheon – Singapore KE643/644 operates with 747-8I instead of 777-300 on Day 246, until 31DEC16

Seoul Incheon – Tel Aviv Boeing 777-200ER replaces A330-200, 3 weekly (Except December 2016)

Seoul Incheon – Tokyo Haneda
Boeing 737-900ER replaces -800

Seoul Incheon – Vienna – Zurich Boeing 777-200ER replaces planned -300ER, 3 weekly

Previously reported changes:
Seoul Incheon – Delhi NEW 5 weekly A330-200 service from 01DEC16
Seoul Incheon – Honolulu Boeing 747-8I operates until 01JAN17. Boeing 747-400 will operate from 02JAN17 to 25MAR17
Seoul Incheon – Las Vegas eff 10DEC16 Increase from 4 to 5 weekly, 777-300ER service
Seoul Incheon – Sydney Airbus A380 operates entire Northern winter season (Previous plan 01DEC16 – 25MAR17)

AirBridgeCargo adds flight routings from Sep 2016
AirBridgeCargo next month is introducing 2 new one-way routing, both operating 2 weekly each. From 03SEP16, the airline’s planned new routing for Seoul, Hong Kong, Seattle and Chicago as follow.

Moscow Sheremetyevo – Seoul Incheon – Hong Kong 2 weekly
RU649 SVO0725 – 2145ICN2330 – 0210+1HKG 74N 6
RU331 SVO2110 – 1130+1ICN1350+1 – 1610+1HKG 74Y 2

Air Seoul files schedule for additional Japan service in W16
Air Seoul the week of 14AUG16’s OAG Schedules Analyser update has filed operational schedule for additional routes to Japan, scheduled to commence in winter 2016/17 season. Planned schedule as follow.

eff 31OCT16 Seoul Incheon – Toyama service replace existing Asiana flights, 3 weekly
RS782 ICN1410 – 1600TOY 321 136
RS781 TOY1700 – 1910ICN 321 136

eff 28NOV16 Seoul Incheon – Yamaguchi-Ube 3 weekly
RS784 ICN1405 – 1525UBJ 321 136
RS783 UBJ1810 – 1940ICN 321 136
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Analysis: Delta Resumes Atlanta – Seoul and Hints at Softening Relations with Korean Air
https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/delt...ns-korean-air/

The “Cold War” between Delta Air Lines and its estranged SkyTeam partner, Korean Air, may soon be thawing. Delta has announced a resumption of services from Atlanta to Seoul beginning June 3, 2017, which highlighted, among other things, an “enhanced partnership” with Korean Air moving forward.

Delta is in a unique position relative to its primary domestic competitors – American Airlines and United Airlines – in that it does not have an immunized joint venture agreement with a major Asian carrier. While Korean Air is the obvious – and ideal – candidate for Delta to match the powers of American’s joint venture with Japan Airlines and United’s joint venture with All Nippon Airways, relations between Delta and Korean Air have frayed in recent years due to different views on how to define the scope of the partnership.

The “new” relationship came out of the woodwork, to the surprise of many, and while it may seem like things have turned a corner, there will still be piecemeal elements to it. The good news for both Delta and Korean Air is that the partnership can evolve rather quickly and dovetail on a period of gradual growth from both carriers on each side of the Pacific.

Delta has ceded the market to Korean Air since 2009

This will be Delta’s second attempt at offering a nonstop product from Atlanta to Seoul on its own metal. Delta launched Atlanta – Seoul in June 2007 utilizing a Boeing 777-200ER aircraft, which, at the time, alternated between 3 weekly and 5 weekly peak services between the two cities.

The service was eventually cancelled, largely following the culmination of Delta’s merger with Northwest Airlines. Delta currently flies between Detroit and Seoul on a 747-400 (inherited from Northwest) and Seattle and Seoul on a 767-300ER.

Korean Air, on the other hand, has fared very well in the market, serving as one of the longer-standing foreign carriers servicing Atlanta. Korean Air first launched nonstop service to Atlanta from Seoul Incheon in June 2002 utilizing a 747-400 on a thrice weekly basis before increasing frequencies to daily service in April 2005.

The airline eventually grew its operations to 10 weekly in August 2010 with an additional 777-300ER service thrice a week before eventually reverting back to 7 weekly flights in April 2014. Atlanta was also among the first North American candidates to receive Korean’s Airbus A380 service in August 2014, which operates during peak summer months.

The expanded frequencies to Seoul provided by Delta will effectively increase nonstop flights between Atlanta and North Asia from 2 to 3 daily roundtrips. Besides the two markets flown by Delta and Korean Air to Seoul, Delta also offers daily flights to Tokyo Narita on a 777-200LR.

While Delta’s nonstop service to Tokyo Narita has a longer history of operation, Korean Air’s nonstop service to Seoul has been, on an aggregate-level, a larger market, based on number of seats offered. Presently, Korean Air flies a daily 777-300ER service to Atlanta featuring 8 seats in First, 42-56 in Business and 227 in Economy.

The resumption of Seoul from Atlanta comes with a newsworthy announcement that the carrier will expand its cooperation with Korean Air after years of frosty relations between the two airlines. While Delta and Korean Air were founding members of the SkyTeam Alliance in 2000, the relationship of the two has unraveled in recent times after failing to come to terms on a joint venture agreement.

Delta currently places its code on Korean Air-operated flights from Atlanta to Seoul, but did not carry the Korean Air code when it operated flights between the same city pair between 2007 and 2009. However, per the route resumption announcement, the two will pursue a reciprocal codeshare this time around.

Korean Air will also place its code on 115 Delta-operated flights to U.S. and Canadian destinations beyond Atlanta, Los Angeles and New York City. In return, Delta will place its code on 32 Korean Air flights beyond Seoul and various Asian markets.

Presently, Korean Air carries the Delta code on less than half of its North American flights (to Atlanta, Chicago O’Hare, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Honolulu, New York JFK and Washington Dulles) while Delta only carries Korean’s code on one transpacific route (Detroit to Seoul). Additionally, Delta carries Korean’s code on flights from Atlanta to Santiago, Chile and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Delta’s failed attempt to secure a hub at Tokyo Haneda likely propelled the enhanced codeshare agreement

Delta previously tried and failed to secure daytime slots to Tokyo Haneda airport from Atlanta earlier this year, but was able to two awards to operate from its Los Angeles and Minneapolis/St. Paul hubs. While Delta would ideally like to increase its Asia-Pacific presence from Atlanta, previous efforts to expand into markets, such as Shanghai, have been unviable.

The futile attempt to secure an Atlanta – Tokyo Haneda nonstop flight was likely the last grasp at a series of straws to cultivate a strengthened position in the Tokyo market. The first – and arguably the initial unraveling of the Delta – Korean Air relationship – was Delta’s aggressive attempts to woo bankrupt Japan Airlines in 2010, who ultimately chose to remain with oneworld.

The second was Delta’s push for SkyMark airlines in 2015, which held onto 36 prized slots at Haneda airport. The third was Korean’s flirtation with other U.S. carriers – namely Alaska Airlines and American Airlines (although the later was smaller in scope) to enhance partnership and frequent flier benefits.

But with Delta unwinding its Narita hub and sitting on two pairs of landing slots at Haneda airport, the sun has now pretty much set on its options for growing in Japan.

For Korean Air, the investment required to lure Delta to expand in Seoul is fairly minimal: the geographical advantage of Seoul’s position between North America and Asia is virtually identical to what Tokyo can capably offer. Korean Air is also not starved for access in North America – having service to 13 city pairs including Los Angeles, New York, Chicago O’Hare, Atlanta, Dallas/Ft. Worth, San Francisco, Honolulu, Houston, Washington Dulles, Toronto, Vancouver, Seattle and Las Vegas. There is room for additional growth – Boston, Portland and Minneapolis/St. Paul all come to mind.

Delta also brings significant offline markets closer to Korean: with the exit from Sao Paulo, and plans postponed to launch Lima, Korean Air can virtualize its network in Latin America via Delta in Atlanta. The hope is that Delta code place on Korean’s flights to Houston and San Francisco will help improve load factors on those routes.

Delta is better off working with Korean carriers than Chinese ones

The original strategy for Delta was to leverage SkyTeam partner China Eastern, based in Shanghai, as part of its long-term joint venture project. While that still may be in the pipeline, Korean Air makes a far better proposition over China Eastern for multiple reasons.

First, the two carriers are far more aligned in terms of product than Delta is with its Chinese carriers. Delta recently unveiled its new Delta One Suite to be featured on its Airbus A350 aircraft, which will more than likely be deployed on transpacific missions from its U.S. hubs. Korean Air introduced a new premium product in 2015 featuring enclosed suites in first class and direct aisle seats in business.

Secondly, Korean Air has been pragmatic about its network, cutting unprofitable routes like Sao Paulo in favor of Delhi and insuring it does not trade quality for quantity. China Eastern, while rapidly growing its network (especially in North America), has been notorious for flooding markets with capacity while neglecting to upkeep its soft and hard products at a competitive level.

Finally, Korean Air holds more assets than it gets credit for, with rights to four weekly U.S. – China slots as well as a plethora of services to 6th freedom Asian markets that China Eastern does not have.

Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

Delta’s relationships with some of its global partners – like Korean Air – has historically shared more traits of acrimony as opposed to harmony, rendering it challenging for either player to fully reap the benefits of traditional alliances.

At the end of the day, the benefits outweigh the costs, and such an agreement comes at a time of critical need for both carriers. Korean Air is witnessing its bread-and-butter sixth-freedom traffic being poached by growing Chinese carriers on transpacific routes, and worsening conditions in Latin America have stalled ambitions to expand its global reach.

On the other side of the spectrum, Delta is still waiting for its new Asian routes from Seattle to mature, while also encountering challenges with available terminal space at Sea-Tac airport.

Additionally, while the $450 million stake in China Eastern may be a sound investment over the long run, Korean Air brings similar advantages within a much closer window. It never hurts, either, to play favor with the #1 flag carrier in a relatively open aviation mega polis as opposed to the #2 or #3 in one that is still climbing out of isolation.

Nevertheless, there is certainly much room to evolve before the partnership enters a period of stable growth, but it is a huge step forward in terms of mending strained relationships that have existed far longer than necessary. Even as baby steps are taken, the decision is exceptionally sensible.
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Analysis: Delta Resumes Atlanta – Seoul and Hints at Softening Relations with Korean Air
https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/delt...ns-korean-air/

The “Cold War” between Delta Air Lines and its estranged SkyTeam partner, Korean Air, may soon be thawing. Delta has announced a resumption of services from Atlanta to Seoul beginning June 3, 2017, which highlighted, among other things, an “enhanced partnership” with Korean Air moving forward.

Delta is in a unique position relative to its primary domestic competitors – American Airlines and United Airlines – in that it does not have an immunized joint venture agreement with a major Asian carrier. While Korean Air is the obvious – and ideal – candidate for Delta to match the powers of American’s joint venture with Japan Airlines and United’s joint venture with All Nippon Airways, relations between Delta and Korean Air have frayed in recent years due to different views on how to define the scope of the partnership.

The “new” relationship came out of the woodwork, to the surprise of many, and while it may seem like things have turned a corner, there will still be piecemeal elements to it. The good news for both Delta and Korean Air is that the partnership can evolve rather quickly and dovetail on a period of gradual growth from both carriers on each side of the Pacific.

Delta has ceded the market to Korean Air since 2009

This will be Delta’s second attempt at offering a nonstop product from Atlanta to Seoul on its own metal. Delta launched Atlanta – Seoul in June 2007 utilizing a Boeing 777-200ER aircraft, which, at the time, alternated between 3 weekly and 5 weekly peak services between the two cities.

The service was eventually cancelled, largely following the culmination of Delta’s merger with Northwest Airlines. Delta currently flies between Detroit and Seoul on a 747-400 (inherited from Northwest) and Seattle and Seoul on a 767-300ER.

Korean Air, on the other hand, has fared very well in the market, serving as one of the longer-standing foreign carriers servicing Atlanta. Korean Air first launched nonstop service to Atlanta from Seoul Incheon in June 2002 utilizing a 747-400 on a thrice weekly basis before increasing frequencies to daily service in April 2005.

The airline eventually grew its operations to 10 weekly in August 2010 with an additional 777-300ER service thrice a week before eventually reverting back to 7 weekly flights in April 2014. Atlanta was also among the first North American candidates to receive Korean’s Airbus A380 service in August 2014, which operates during peak summer months.

The expanded frequencies to Seoul provided by Delta will effectively increase nonstop flights between Atlanta and North Asia from 2 to 3 daily roundtrips. Besides the two markets flown by Delta and Korean Air to Seoul, Delta also offers daily flights to Tokyo Narita on a 777-200LR.

While Delta’s nonstop service to Tokyo Narita has a longer history of operation, Korean Air’s nonstop service to Seoul has been, on an aggregate-level, a larger market, based on number of seats offered. Presently, Korean Air flies a daily 777-300ER service to Atlanta featuring 8 seats in First, 42-56 in Business and 227 in Economy.

The resumption of Seoul from Atlanta comes with a newsworthy announcement that the carrier will expand its cooperation with Korean Air after years of frosty relations between the two airlines. While Delta and Korean Air were founding members of the SkyTeam Alliance in 2000, the relationship of the two has unraveled in recent times after failing to come to terms on a joint venture agreement.

Delta currently places its code on Korean Air-operated flights from Atlanta to Seoul, but did not carry the Korean Air code when it operated flights between the same city pair between 2007 and 2009. However, per the route resumption announcement, the two will pursue a reciprocal codeshare this time around.

Korean Air will also place its code on 115 Delta-operated flights to U.S. and Canadian destinations beyond Atlanta, Los Angeles and New York City. In return, Delta will place its code on 32 Korean Air flights beyond Seoul and various Asian markets.

Presently, Korean Air carries the Delta code on less than half of its North American flights (to Atlanta, Chicago O’Hare, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Honolulu, New York JFK and Washington Dulles) while Delta only carries Korean’s code on one transpacific route (Detroit to Seoul). Additionally, Delta carries Korean’s code on flights from Atlanta to Santiago, Chile and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Delta’s failed attempt to secure a hub at Tokyo Haneda likely propelled the enhanced codeshare agreement

Delta previously tried and failed to secure daytime slots to Tokyo Haneda airport from Atlanta earlier this year, but was able to two awards to operate from its Los Angeles and Minneapolis/St. Paul hubs. While Delta would ideally like to increase its Asia-Pacific presence from Atlanta, previous efforts to expand into markets, such as Shanghai, have been unviable.

The futile attempt to secure an Atlanta – Tokyo Haneda nonstop flight was likely the last grasp at a series of straws to cultivate a strengthened position in the Tokyo market. The first – and arguably the initial unraveling of the Delta – Korean Air relationship – was Delta’s aggressive attempts to woo bankrupt Japan Airlines in 2010, who ultimately chose to remain with oneworld.

The second was Delta’s push for SkyMark airlines in 2015, which held onto 36 prized slots at Haneda airport. The third was Korean’s flirtation with other U.S. carriers – namely Alaska Airlines and American Airlines (although the later was smaller in scope) to enhance partnership and frequent flier benefits.

But with Delta unwinding its Narita hub and sitting on two pairs of landing slots at Haneda airport, the sun has now pretty much set on its options for growing in Japan.

For Korean Air, the investment required to lure Delta to expand in Seoul is fairly minimal: the geographical advantage of Seoul’s position between North America and Asia is virtually identical to what Tokyo can capably offer. Korean Air is also not starved for access in North America – having service to 13 city pairs including Los Angeles, New York, Chicago O’Hare, Atlanta, Dallas/Ft. Worth, San Francisco, Honolulu, Houston, Washington Dulles, Toronto, Vancouver, Seattle and Las Vegas. There is room for additional growth – Boston, Portland and Minneapolis/St. Paul all come to mind.

Delta also brings significant offline markets closer to Korean: with the exit from Sao Paulo, and plans postponed to launch Lima, Korean Air can virtualize its network in Latin America via Delta in Atlanta. The hope is that Delta code place on Korean’s flights to Houston and San Francisco will help improve load factors on those routes.

Delta is better off working with Korean carriers than Chinese ones

The original strategy for Delta was to leverage SkyTeam partner China Eastern, based in Shanghai, as part of its long-term joint venture project. While that still may be in the pipeline, Korean Air makes a far better proposition over China Eastern for multiple reasons.

First, the two carriers are far more aligned in terms of product than Delta is with its Chinese carriers. Delta recently unveiled its new Delta One Suite to be featured on its Airbus A350 aircraft, which will more than likely be deployed on transpacific missions from its U.S. hubs. Korean Air introduced a new premium product in 2015 featuring enclosed suites in first class and direct aisle seats in business.

Secondly, Korean Air has been pragmatic about its network, cutting unprofitable routes like Sao Paulo in favor of Delhi and insuring it does not trade quality for quantity. China Eastern, while rapidly growing its network (especially in North America), has been notorious for flooding markets with capacity while neglecting to upkeep its soft and hard products at a competitive level.

Finally, Korean Air holds more assets than it gets credit for, with rights to four weekly U.S. – China slots as well as a plethora of services to 6th freedom Asian markets that China Eastern does not have.

Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

Delta’s relationships with some of its global partners – like Korean Air – has historically shared more traits of acrimony as opposed to harmony, rendering it challenging for either player to fully reap the benefits of traditional alliances.

At the end of the day, the benefits outweigh the costs, and such an agreement comes at a time of critical need for both carriers. Korean Air is witnessing its bread-and-butter sixth-freedom traffic being poached by growing Chinese carriers on transpacific routes, and worsening conditions in Latin America have stalled ambitions to expand its global reach.

On the other side of the spectrum, Delta is still waiting for its new Asian routes from Seattle to mature, while also encountering challenges with available terminal space at Sea-Tac airport.

Additionally, while the $450 million stake in China Eastern may be a sound investment over the long run, Korean Air brings similar advantages within a much closer window. It never hurts, either, to play favor with the #1 flag carrier in a relatively open aviation mega polis as opposed to the #2 or #3 in one that is still climbing out of isolation.

Nevertheless, there is certainly much room to evolve before the partnership enters a period of stable growth, but it is a huge step forward in terms of mending strained relationships that have existed far longer than necessary. Even as baby steps are taken, the decision is exceptionally sensible.
I like your analysis between DL and KE. If only DL and KE can only agree more on a Trans-Pacific joint venture, similar to what DL+KL+AF+AZ have Trans-Atlantic, it would make it the largest Trans-Pacific joint venture agreement and possibly lucrative and dominating the other airlines and airline alliances such as OneWorld or Star Alliance. I find ICN as an ideal Trans-Pacific hub as KE is well established all over Asia compared to MU. The airports in China are also plagued with notorius airport delays. I don't find Chinese airports or Chinese carriers appealing. I also find KE a little more advanced than DL when it comes to service product.
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