Adelphi Street Tower | 85m | 27 Floors

jrb · February 20th, 2007, 10:23 AM

Sorry, can't have a break just yet. To much going on.

Another midrise tower.

Taken from todays MEN. Don't think we know about this one? Is there already a thread for this propsal? If there is I apologise.

BeardedGenius · February 20th, 2007, 11:24 AM

That's a very different looking tower than on the website...

The Longford · February 20th, 2007, 11:28 AM

I must say the image in the MEN looks more Alsopesque than the Salford Precinctesque one on the website.

Got to love the MEN.
Opening line - 'apartments are out' and then proceeds to talk about 2 developments, one with 1000 flats and the other with 200!

Goldie · February 20th, 2007, 01:19 PM

I love the yacht moored on the irwell. Slyly suggests that this'll turn Lower Broughton into the new Monaco...

Northbeach · February 20th, 2007, 01:33 PM

Wasn't one memeber of Monaco from Lower Broughton...I might be stretching things there a little...?

spacepostman · February 27th, 2007, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northbeach

Wasn't one memeber of Monaco from Lower Broughton...I might be stretching things there a little...?

Not too far....! Very clever, yes it was Peter Hook.

The Longford · February 20th, 2007, 02:03 PM

Perhaps that should be consigned to the 'rendered useless' thread.
The idea of a yacht would be nice one if it wasnt for the dirty great weirs that it might have trouble negotiating!

SleepyOne · February 20th, 2007, 08:54 PM

It IS an Alsop design (well mostly). Original scheme pictured below by SMC DTR architects which Salford planners and the URC didn't like. Project handed to SMC Alsop to come up with a design more in line with Central Salford's aspirations for landmark architecture in this location. Shame they did not insist on a similar redesign for Derwent Street.

My earlier post from the Central Salford thread.

Quote:

Adelphi Street

Does this one have planning consent? I seem to remember reading the planners not liking one of the large developments around here. Not sure whether it was this one or not.

Interesting to hear about the potential collaboration with Alsop architects. Somehow I can't imagine Alsop has had any input into the design pictured below:

Quote:

Manchester - Adelphi Street, Salford

Close to the new Salford University arts and media campus, this £40m high specification development, offers investors and local employees an ideal location.

The development will be phased and will include a dramatic residential tower, a result of a colaboration between DTR Architects of Manchester and the internationally renowned Alsop Architects. The scheme comprises:

223 residential apartments
110 car parking spaces
1272 sq. m office accomodation
Associated public realm works

http://www.vermontdevelopments.com/o...l/adelphi.html

jrb · February 20th, 2007, 10:16 PM

Smaller, clearer image in the MEN.

jrb · February 20th, 2007, 10:53 PM

Original application. Recommendation. Refuse.

Irwell Riverside

06/53224/FUL RECOMMENDATION: REF USE PAGE 36

TIME OF MEETING: 11.30 am

PROPOSAL: Erection of mixed use development (maximum 25 storeys) comprising 223 residential units, 1254 sq.m of A1,A3,A4 and B1 retail/office floorspace together with 110 basement car parking spaces, new riverside walkway and construction of new vehicular and pedestrian accesses

LOCATION: Land West Of Damask Avenue On West Of
Adelphi Street
Salford

APPLICANT: Vermont Developments Ltd

jrb · February 20th, 2007, 11:21 PM

Approve. (reasons)

[DOC] At a meeting of the Panel held on 18th January 2007 consideration ...File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
APPLICANT: Vermont Developments Ltd. LOCATION: Land West Of Damask Avenue On West Of Adelphi Street Salford. PROPOSAL: Erection of 27 storey mixed use ...
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kids · February 22nd, 2007, 07:42 PM

According to the Salford Advertiser, this "will also have a futuristic four storey 'skirt' which will feature projections on the inside to alter the colour or show advertisements." They compared it to the tower block in the bravia adverts, the article being called 'Bravo to 'Bravia' bravado'.

man med · February 22nd, 2007, 08:24 PM

http://www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/n...a_bravado.html

Bravo to ‘Bravia’ bravado

VERMONT Developments’ planned 27-storey tower on Adelphi Street which will feature a multi-coloured facade.SALFORD’S skyline will soon be brightened by a huge £40 million tower block seemingly inspired by an award-winning advert where high-rise flats are turned multi-coloured in an explosion of paint.

Vermont Developments have been granted permission to build a 27-storey tower on Adelphi Street in central Salford and it will feature a multi-coloured facade.

In the renowned Sony Bravia advert, 70,000 litres of paint are blasted across the flats Queen's Court in Glasgow's Toryglen estate using fireworks to create a rainbow effect.

The scheme in Salford is set to be just as eye-catching. It will also include smaller more reserved buildings on the site across from the River Irwell from the University of Salford campus and it will act as a gateway to the Chapel Street/central Salford regeneration area.

Internationally renowned architect Will Alsop has designed the tower which resembles a large bookcase when viewed from a distance and will also have a futuristic four storey glass ‘skirt’ which will feature projections on the inside to alter the colour or show advertisements.

The project is similar to an architectural style famous in Berlin, though the 221 dwellings and 35,000 sq ft of retail space will dwarf the German equivalent. Work is expected to begin in mid-July 2007 with completion anticipated to be in early 2009.

Mark Connor, chief executive of Vermont Developments, said: "We are absolutely delighted to have reached this milestone in the project.

"We have worked in close collaboration with Urban Vision to develop a proposal for the scheme which will provide a dramatic landmark building for the Adelphi Street area.

"The scheme also makes provision for a new bridge over the River Irwell, and in doing so, provides a gateway that will create an important new link between Adelphi Street, the university campus and green space on the other side of the Irwell."

The tower will be made of glass, metal cladding, sandstone, a material called Trespa which will be yellow, orange and red panels and white fibre blocks in a random design to make it appear ‘pixellated’.

Salford planning committee member Councillor Janice Heywood said: "I love it - I think the design is really good and the materials used are quite different to some of the other developments we’ve got in Salford. I’m very enthusiastic about this building."

***b4mmy*** · February 22nd, 2007, 10:37 PM

am I the only one who thinks this is rubbish

Manc Guy · February 22nd, 2007, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Is that what were getting?! Looks like me nans patch knit quilt.

jrb · February 22nd, 2007, 11:23 PM

You can't please all of the people all of the time .

That includes you aswell Manc Guy.

Second Alsop effort in Manchester. Who knows, we could have one in the city centre soon.

The Longford · February 23rd, 2007, 12:27 AM

Alsop is over rated.

jrb · February 23rd, 2007, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Longford

Alsop is over rated.

That he maybe true Longy? But atleast his designs are different, unlike some of the garbage we've been seeing submitted lately.

BeardedGenius · February 23rd, 2007, 10:52 AM

I think I'll reserve judgement until we see better plans/renders. I like the sound of it, but the render doesn't really help that much.

Martin G · February 25th, 2007, 05:00 AM

It's fast becoming extremely yawnsome and tedious to see yet MORE square/rectangular tower proposals - not just here in Manchester, but practically everywhere else - springing up which ALL feature EXACTLY the same sort of asymmetrical window arrangements (i.e. not lined up) and cheap and tacky-looking "clever colour combinations" on their facades. This has to beg the question....are our contemporary architects really so fucking lazy and uninspired that they now all have to adhere almost with fanatical fervour to one particular style or trend in buildings - and then milk it for all it is worth without so much as a care for the wider aesthetical consequences on the surrounding landscape?

Really, it is becoming a fucking cliche to see so many of these buildings which - on the surface of it - all look the bloody same. Everywhere you care to look now multi-storey blocks with asymmetrical window arrangements are going up - the most recent one opposite Piccadilly station (student flats) is further testimony to this ongoing craze. It really sucks warm runny doggy poop. Okay - perhaps having one or two of these designs in the city is all well and good (is Ian "wave it like I mean it" Simpson the guy responsible for setting the precedent for this style, or is it Will "cloudcuckooland pharmacy" Alsop?) but when you start seeing dozens of near identikit proposals all looking like they have come from the same place, you really have to wonder what the future holds for many such schemes all over the country....and why some architects don't seem to have much regard for originality anymore, preferring to all jump onto the same bandwagon.

It's gone beyond merely a generic look now and is just plain horrible. I wish it would stop, because in 20 years time when our cities are full of these awful cheap and nasty-looking towers it will be like the mistakes of the 60s all over again believe you me.

February 20th, 2007, 10:23 AM	#1
jrb 10th February 2008 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 15,422	Adelphi Street Tower \| 85m \| 27 Floors Sorry, can't have a break just yet. To much going on. Another midrise tower. Taken from todays MEN. Don't think we know about this one? Is there already a thread for this propsal? If there is I apologise.

February 20th, 2007, 11:24 AM	#2
BeardedGenius Clean-shaven and foolish Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,356	That's a very different looking tower than on the website... __________________ "I feel close to the rebelliousness and vigour of the youth here. Perhaps time will seperate us, but nobody can deny that here, behind the windows of Manchester, there is an insane love of football, of celebration and of music." Eric Daniel Pierre Cantona

February 20th, 2007, 11:28 AM	#3
The Longford Benefit Scrounger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: M20 Posts: 8,097	I must say the image in the MEN looks more Alsopesque than the Salford Precinctesque one on the website. Got to love the MEN. Opening line - 'apartments are out' and then proceeds to talk about 2 developments, one with 1000 flats and the other with 200! __________________ Visit The Trafford Spade Museum - Bring The Kids. Ample Parking and Excellent Gift Shop Right Next Door

February 20th, 2007, 02:03 PM	#7
The Longford Benefit Scrounger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: M20 Posts: 8,097	Perhaps that should be consigned to the 'rendered useless' thread. The idea of a yacht would be nice one if it wasnt for the dirty great weirs that it might have trouble negotiating! __________________ Visit The Trafford Spade Museum - Bring The Kids. Ample Parking and Excellent Gift Shop Right Next Door

February 22nd, 2007, 08:24 PM	#13
man med Ex - bert Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 791	http://www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/n...a_bravado.html Bravo to ‘Bravia’ bravado VERMONT Developments’ planned 27-storey tower on Adelphi Street which will feature a multi-coloured facade.SALFORD’S skyline will soon be brightened by a huge £40 million tower block seemingly inspired by an award-winning advert where high-rise flats are turned multi-coloured in an explosion of paint. Vermont Developments have been granted permission to build a 27-storey tower on Adelphi Street in central Salford and it will feature a multi-coloured facade. In the renowned Sony Bravia advert, 70,000 litres of paint are blasted across the flats Queen's Court in Glasgow's Toryglen estate using fireworks to create a rainbow effect. The scheme in Salford is set to be just as eye-catching. It will also include smaller more reserved buildings on the site across from the River Irwell from the University of Salford campus and it will act as a gateway to the Chapel Street/central Salford regeneration area. Internationally renowned architect Will Alsop has designed the tower which resembles a large bookcase when viewed from a distance and will also have a futuristic four storey glass ‘skirt’ which will feature projections on the inside to alter the colour or show advertisements. The project is similar to an architectural style famous in Berlin, though the 221 dwellings and 35,000 sq ft of retail space will dwarf the German equivalent. Work is expected to begin in mid-July 2007 with completion anticipated to be in early 2009. Mark Connor, chief executive of Vermont Developments, said: "We are absolutely delighted to have reached this milestone in the project. "We have worked in close collaboration with Urban Vision to develop a proposal for the scheme which will provide a dramatic landmark building for the Adelphi Street area. "The scheme also makes provision for a new bridge over the River Irwell, and in doing so, provides a gateway that will create an important new link between Adelphi Street, the university campus and green space on the other side of the Irwell." The tower will be made of glass, metal cladding, sandstone, a material called Trespa which will be yellow, orange and red panels and white fibre blocks in a random design to make it appear ‘pixellated’. Salford planning committee member Councillor Janice Heywood said: "I love it - I think the design is really good and the materials used are quite different to some of the other developments we’ve got in Salford. I’m very enthusiastic about this building." __________________ http://www.4stepstogod.com/ http://www.billygraham.org/ http://www.dpmuk.org/ http://www.lastdaysministries.org/ http://www.biblebelievers.com/the-reason-why.html

February 20th, 2007, 01:19 PM	#4
Goldie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 356	I love the yacht moored on the irwell. Slyly suggests that this'll turn Lower Broughton into the new Monaco...

February 20th, 2007, 01:33 PM	#5
Northbeach A roussos is for life. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,176	Wasn't one memeber of Monaco from Lower Broughton...I might be stretching things there a little...?

February 20th, 2007, 10:16 PM	#9
jrb 10th February 2008 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 15,422	Smaller, clearer image in the MEN.

February 20th, 2007, 10:53 PM	#10
jrb 10th February 2008 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 15,422	Original application. Recommendation. Refuse. Irwell Riverside 06/53224/FUL RECOMMENDATION: REF USE PAGE 36 TIME OF MEETING: 11.30 am PROPOSAL: Erection of mixed use development (maximum 25 storeys) comprising 223 residential units, 1254 sq.m of A1,A3,A4 and B1 retail/office floorspace together with 110 basement car parking spaces, new riverside walkway and construction of new vehicular and pedestrian accesses LOCATION: Land West Of Damask Avenue On West Of Adelphi Street Salford APPLICANT: Vermont Developments Ltd

February 20th, 2007, 11:21 PM	#11
jrb 10th February 2008 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 15,422	Approve. (reasons) [DOC] At a meeting of the Panel held on 18th January 2007 consideration ...File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML APPLICANT: Vermont Developments Ltd. LOCATION: Land West Of Damask Avenue On West Of Adelphi Street Salford. PROPOSAL: Erection of 27 storey mixed use ... services.salford.gov.uk/solar_documents/PTRR150207C.DOC - Similar pages [ More results from services.salford.gov.uk ] http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta=

February 22nd, 2007, 07:42 PM	#12
kids On the Contrary Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,393	According to the Salford Advertiser, this "will also have a futuristic four storey 'skirt' which will feature projections on the inside to alter the colour or show advertisements." They compared it to the tower block in the bravia adverts, the article being called 'Bravo to 'Bravia' bravado'.

February 22nd, 2007, 10:37 PM	#14
*b4mmy* 只今、定期メインテナンス中です Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ★ Posts: 8,832	am I the only one who thinks this is rubbish

February 22nd, 2007, 11:23 PM	#16
jrb 10th February 2008 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 15,422	You can't please all of the people all of the time . That includes you aswell Manc Guy. Second Alsop effort in Manchester. Who knows, we could have one in the city centre soon.

February 23rd, 2007, 12:27 AM	#17
The Longford Benefit Scrounger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: M20 Posts: 8,097	Alsop is over rated. __________________ Visit The Trafford Spade Museum - Bring The Kids. Ample Parking and Excellent Gift Shop Right Next Door

February 23rd, 2007, 10:52 AM	#19
BeardedGenius Clean-shaven and foolish Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,356	I think I'll reserve judgement until we see better plans/renders. I like the sound of it, but the render doesn't really help that much. __________________ "I feel close to the rebelliousness and vigour of the youth here. Perhaps time will seperate us, but nobody can deny that here, behind the windows of Manchester, there is an insane love of football, of celebration and of music." Eric Daniel Pierre Cantona

February 25th, 2007, 05:00 AM	#20
Martin G Compulsive : Obsessive Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: GET TO FUCK, WHY DON'T YOU? Posts: 7,333	It's fast becoming extremely yawnsome and tedious to see yet MORE square/rectangular tower proposals - not just here in Manchester, but practically everywhere else - springing up which ALL feature EXACTLY the same sort of asymmetrical window arrangements (i.e. not lined up) and cheap and tacky-looking "clever colour combinations" on their facades. This has to beg the question....are our contemporary architects really so fucking lazy and uninspired that they now all have to adhere almost with fanatical fervour to one particular style or trend in buildings - and then milk it for all it is worth without so much as a care for the wider aesthetical consequences on the surrounding landscape? Really, it is becoming a fucking cliche to see so many of these buildings which - on the surface of it - all look the bloody same. Everywhere you care to look now multi-storey blocks with asymmetrical window arrangements are going up - the most recent one opposite Piccadilly station (student flats) is further testimony to this ongoing craze. It really sucks warm runny doggy poop. Okay - perhaps having one or two of these designs in the city is all well and good (is Ian "wave it like I mean it" Simpson the guy responsible for setting the precedent for this style, or is it Will "cloudcuckooland pharmacy" Alsop?) but when you start seeing dozens of near identikit proposals all looking like they have come from the same place, you really have to wonder what the future holds for many such schemes all over the country....and why some architects don't seem to have much regard for originality anymore, preferring to all jump onto the same bandwagon. It's gone beyond merely a generic look now and is just plain horrible. I wish it would stop, because in 20 years time when our cities are full of these awful cheap and nasty-looking towers it will be like the mistakes of the 60s all over again believe you me. __________________ 147 metres: so is this the height of Birmingham's ambitions? The city surely deserves better. Arena Central / Arena Square / V Building The incredible shrinking tower: 245m --> 187m --> 175m --> 152m --> 150m --> 147m --> 143m --> ???m

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