ROME - Stadio Olimpico (70,634)

[ReiAyanami]

Don't be so dramatic, you can see perfectly fine football from an athletic stadium....

[Federicoft]

Originally Posted by Triumph III

The majority of the locals are very nice people but there's an element of idiots who could possibly ruin it for everyone. Fingers crossed they don't and it all goes well. For all those going on the 27th - stay safe!

Why should they bother about a match between an English and a Spanish team? Honestly, this kind of advice just serves to add fuel to the flames, and I sincerely hope Roman hooligans don't read the English press.

Under normal conditions you have a much better chance of getting stabbed taking a walk in South London than outside the Olympic Stadium wearing a Man Utd shirt.

[andysimo123]

Originally Posted by Federicoft

Why should they bother about a match between an English and a Spanish team? Honestly, this kind of advice just serves to add fuel to the flames, and I sincerely hope Roman hooligans don't read the English press.

Under normal conditions you have a much better chance of getting stabbed taking a walk in South London than outside the Olympic Stadium wearing a Man Utd shirt.

Will the British Foreign office listen to that? Nope. Everything you see in the papers is from either when an English football team has played in Rome against Roma or its crap from the Foreign office. According to our press the Police are meant to be shutting this bridge down where fans have been fighting in the past but in the ticket booklet it openly says use the tram and unless they want everyone to walk around or swim across, I don't really know what its getting at. You should read the advice for Americans visiting the UK. Most of it would get in a comedy.

[Triumph III]

A couple of good articles about the final.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...inal-Rome.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...Stab-City.html

It's a shame to see a fine city like Rome being referred to as "Stab City". Let's all hope the idiots don't win this time and we can all look forward to more CL finals at this fine stadium in the future.

If there's more trouble it will surely be its last time hosting such an event.

Apparently United are doing a huge mosaic in honour of Sir Matt Busby who would have been 100 years old the day before the final. Will be interesting to see how it looks on the night.

Safe journey everyone.

[andysimo123]

Originally Posted by Triumph III

A couple of good articles about the final.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...inal-Rome.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...Stab-City.html

It's a shame to see a fine city like Rome being referred to as "Stab City". Let's all hope the idiots don't win this time and we can all look forward to more CL finals at this fine stadium in the future.

If there's more trouble it will surely be its last time hosting such an event.

Apparently United are doing a huge mosaic in honour of Sir Matt Busby who would have been 100 years old the day before the final. Will be interesting to see how it looks on the night.

Safe journey everyone.

I've just found out why the Italians have been getting away with this stabbing of fans for so long and why it keeps happening. According to Italian law if someone stabs you below waist height they basically get let off. So some prick on a moped rides past and stabs you in the arse, you done and he gets let off for attempted murder. Theres no deterrent.

United were going to do a mosaic before it came clear that the fans had been planning to do a better one anyway which they had most of the funding for. They were going to do that 'believe' again until they were contacted by SEF and now the club have offered to pay(its in the £1000s). What UFEA have to do with it, I don't know.

[Federicoft]

Originally Posted by andysimo123

I've just found out why the Italians have been getting away with this stabbing of fans for so long and why it keeps happening. According to Italian law if someone stabs you below waist height they basically get let off. So some prick on a moped rides past and stabs you in the arse, you done and he gets let off for attempted murder. Theres no deterrent.

Sorry but that's total B.S.

[andysimo123]

Originally Posted by Federicoft

Sorry but that's total B.S.

Its classed as a misdemeanour as its unlikely to cause a death. Considering everytime an English has travelled to Rome or other another Italian city someone has been stabbed it doesn't sound like bull shit. The law must be weak if it allows this to happen.... 2 Chelsea fans were stabbed Turin by Juve fans, an Arsenal was stabbed by Roma fans, 3 Boro fans were stabbed in Rome in 2006, 3 United fans were stabbed in 2007, 19 Liverpool fans were stabbed in Rome in 2001 during two games. What have the Italian FA or UFEA done about it? They rewarded Rome with Champions League final.

[Federicoft]

Originally Posted by andysimo123

Its classed as a misdemeanour as its unlikely to cause a death. Considering everytime an English has travelled to Rome or other another Italian city someone has been stabbed it doesn't sound like bull shit. The law must be weak if it allows this to happen.... 2 Chelsea fans were stabbed Turin by Juve fans, an Arsenal was stabbed by Roma fans, 3 Boro fans were stabbed in Rome in 2006, 3 United fans were stabbed in 2007, 19 Liverpool fans were stabbed in Rome in 2001 during two games. What have the Italian FA or UFEA done about it? They rewarded Rome with Champions League final.

Stabbing is by no means a misdemeanour according to Italian law. It's a crime and the penalty is up to 12 years in prison (no less than 6 years if the injury is irreparable. If death results, no less than 21 years).

People involved in fights are always troublemakers from both parts who do it deliberately. Just stay away from them and use police escort if provided. There's nothing to be worried about, despite what your press is trying to tell you.

Just to put things into perspective, 162 people were murdered in London (pop 7.5m) in 2007 (btw, does it mean the law is weak over there?) compared to 40 in the Province of Rome (pop 4m).

[andysimo123]

Originally Posted by Federicoft

Stabbing is by no means a misdemeanour according to Italian law. It's a crime and the penalty is up to 12 years in prison (no less than 6 years if the injury is irreparable. If death results, no less than 21 years).

People involved in fights are always troublemakers from both parts who do it deliberately. Just stay away from them and use police escort if provided. There's nothing to be worried about, despite what your press is trying to tell you.

Just to put things into perspective, 162 people were murdered in London (pop 7.5m) in 2007 (btw, does it mean the law is weak over there?) compared to 40 in the Province of Rome (pop 4m).

You won't get stabbed for wearing a football shirt or supporting your team in any UK City. You will in Italy.

So the press isn't wrong. A cut or a slash means they'll get less than 6 years or likely let off.

[Huskies]

Originally Posted by Triumph III

A couple of good articles about the final.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...inal-Rome.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...Stab-City.html

It's a shame to see a fine city like Rome being referred to as "Stab City". Let's all hope the idiots don't win this time and we can all look forward to more CL finals at this fine stadium in the future.

If there's more trouble it will surely be its last time hosting such an event.

Apparently United are doing a huge mosaic in honour of Sir Matt Busby who would have been 100 years old the day before the final. Will be interesting to see how it looks on the night.

Safe journey everyone.

what ? you want this stadium to get MORE finals`? isn't it bad enough that it got this one ? i mean rome is an awesome city , but this stadium dont do it justice ... it should have a stadium with an exterior inspired by the coliseum i think.


does anybody have pictures of the olympico in champions league final mode ? it should be set up by now right its only 2 days to the game ...

[wearethefuture]

Originally Posted by Huskies

2 days to the game ...

....Come on United!!!
(and stick it to Eufa)

What is the capacity for the game? Does anyone know what kind of allocation both teams have been given?

[(fabrizio)]

Originally Posted by andysimo123

You won't get stabbed for wearing a football shirt or supporting your team in any UK City. You will in Italy.

So the press isn't wrong. A cut or a slash means they'll get less than 6 years or likely let off.

yes, you get stabbed for being in the wrong South London baby-gang...

[Its AlL gUUd]

its very dissapointing how UEFA can't seem to grasp that there is a problem with fans in Italy, even some of the people on here can't see it. its disgusting the amount of foreign football fans that have been attacked in Italy. one should not be threatened with being stabbed possibly even killed when travelling abroad to support your team. if this was happening in England the team would not be allowed to compete in Europe let alone be allowed to host an European final.

[bigbossman]

it's not just foreigners who get stabbed it's anyone not Roman, many italians get stabbed when they travel away to Rome. The fact of the matter are that this will be a totally different situation to a match against Roma, for a start Roma aren't playing, and there will be 30,000+ manchester united fans present not 3-4,000.

It's always the if this was happening in England bullshit, the fact of the matter is, it is outside of the stadium and when English clubs were banned it was inside the stadiums and after over a decade of repeat offences.

To the Italians comparing this to London, stop it!

[ReiAyanami]

LOL, you all make Rome sound like a 3rd world city, where you WILL be stabbed if you visit the place, no matter what do

[bigbossman]

only the ignorant people are saying that...

[andysimo123]

Originally Posted by wearethefuture

....Come on United!!!
(and stick it to Eufa)

What is the capacity for the game? Does anyone know what kind of allocation both teams have been given?

67,000, Teams have been given 19,500 tickets each. From what am looking at there are gonna alot more than 30,000 United fans in Rome. FOC were expecting 30,000 English fans to travel to Rome, 5 days ago they put that up to 40,000. No Visas this year and its not as far.

Its expected 50,000 fans will fly into Romes two airports alone. 110 planes will land at Fiumicino(English I think) and 40 planes into Ciampino (Spainish). Alot from Barca are on the coaches. I only know afew people flying directly into Rome. Loads are flying to Milan, Pisa, Nice, Venice(then hiring cars or getting the train), some are getting the train from London and I know about 40 lads who are driving over.

[Federicoft]

Originally Posted by bigbossman

it's not just foreigners who get stabbed it's anyone not Roman, many italians get stabbed when they travel away to Rome. The fact of the matter are that this will be a totally different situation to a match against Roma, for a start Roma aren't playing, and there will be 30,000+ manchester united fans present not 3-4,000.

It's always the if this was happening in England bullshit, the fact of the matter is, it is outside of the stadium and when English clubs were banned it was inside the stadiums and after over a decade of repeat offences.

To the Italians comparing this to London, stop it!

Why?
Have you ever seen our Foreign Office issuing warnings against travels to London? Or our press fanning the flames before a match against an English team?

After the final everybody will realise how ridiculous this has been, despite the efforts to stir up troubles.

[(fabrizio)]

Originally Posted by bigbossman

To the Italians comparing this to London, stop it!

Honestly, I love London and the U.K. as a whole (let alone King's Lynn and Swindon, sorry) but I felt like I had to say what I said. Look at the statistics: London has got enormous problems with gangs but nobody here did try to call it "Stab City" 'cause it shows how filled with prejudice are those who do so.

I know Daily Mail is a tabloid good just to get the fries into it, but this doesn't change the reality: a whole city sees its reputation ruined by some pricks.

[bigbossman]

Look Italians, it's ignorant people calling it stab city, our media is rubbish!

If you read my post i was supporting the fact that this is hyperbole.

I just don't see the point of bringing in London's gang problem which has nothing to do with football (mainly because the kids can't afford the ridiculous prices), where as this has something to do with football.

The italian foreign office may not warn you not to venture to London blah blah, but surely they do warn you to stick to the touristy areas, afterall it is common sense that you don't go to specific places after dark in London unless you are looking for a fight.