LONDON - Olympic Stadium (79,999)

[Stockwell]

Kind of cool.
Nothing Special with this stadium

[PortoNuts]

Originally Posted by jerseyboi

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[PortoNuts]

Tottenham offer to redevelop Crystal Palace in bid to occupy Olympic Stadium

-- Link to Daily Telegraph article --

Telegraph Sport can disclose that Tottenham will offer a 20,000-seat redevelopment of Crystal Palace as the legacy component of their bid to occupy the Olympic stadium after the 2012 Games. Spurs are bidding against West Ham for the arena, and want to demolish the £500 million 85,000-seat stadium and rebuild a 60,000 football ground from scratch without a running track.

With West Ham promising to retain the athletics track in a mixed-use community based stadium, Tottenham’s plan falls well short of the athletics legacy promised by the 2012 Olympic bid. But while West Ham remain the first choice of many stakeholders, doubts over the financial strength of their offer have increased in recent weeks, and senior figures in government and the Olympic project are now open to the athletics legacy lying outside the stadium.

They are also mindful that were the West Ham bid fail to stack up they may have to take the best athletics option they can or be left with nothing, making Tottenham’s proposals for Crystal Palace more realistic. This marks a significant shift in tone since London won the right to stage the 2012 Games, helped in large part by Lord Coe’s commitment to give his sport a permanent home in the capital.

The financial realties of finding a viable post-Games use for the stadium has made that harder to deliver than was imagined, and the economic downturn also offers a viable explanation for selecting Tottenham if West Ham cannot deliver. There are also clear signs that the Spurs board, which includes London organising committee deputy chairman Sir Keith Mills, now consider the Olympic Park their preferred option over the Northumberland Park Development next door to White Hart Lane, which could cost up to £100 million more.

In a further development, Telegraph Sport can also disclose that West Ham have agreed a deal with retail giant Westfield to be their construction partner in the project. Westfield owns 50 per cent of the huge shopping centre next to the Olympic Park, and their presence may offer comfort to the Olympic Park Legacy Company, which has asked both bids for final submissions by Jan 21.

Tottenham’s bid, in partnership with American entertainment giants AIG, offers a more obviously attractive financial case than West Ham’s, but they have been scrambling to find an athletics legacy since entering the race on the day bidding closed in October. Spurs have now focused on the national sports centre at Crystal Palace, the traditional home of the London Grand Prix despite its huge drawbacks, including the lack of a warm-up track, sub-standard spectator facilities and inadequate public transport.

They are understood to be proposing a 20,000-seats redevelopment with the potential to add temporary seating that might provide the 40,000 capacity required to stage a World Championships. They will also build a four-lane warm-up track. Currently world-class athletes such as Usain Bolt have to use the artificial hockey pitches next to the track to prepare. Tottenham’s offer falls well short of the legacy envisaged by UK Athletics, which has made a stadium capable of staging the World Championships its bottom line.

West Ham insist that doubts over the financial merits of their bid, stoked by their parlous position at the bottom of the Premier League, are misplaced. The club is bidding in partnership with local council Newham, which will borrow up to £40 million at preferential rates secured against club income, which the club will repay from ticket revenue.

They insist that they can afford to pay off the loan within 10 years even if relegated, and that discounted tickets will ensure the stadium is well-attended even if they are relegated. They also dismiss concerns raised this week that local authority budget cuts, which will see Newham have to save 8.9 per cent next year and £116 million over the next five, will impact on the bid.

The latest developments come with the contest between the two clubs becoming increasingly bitter. Earlier this month West Ham asked the Premier League to consider if Tottenham moving would breach league rules, but were told it would not. Tottenham meanwhile are expected to step up their lobbying in the coming weeks, a further indication that they are set on leaving their historic home in north London.

[Curva Nord]

I really love London stadiums (for FOOTBALL) like Craven Cottage, Upton Park and Stanford Bridge.
But could I say that this new Olympic stadium is very orrible?

[Sponsor]

I agree. Nothing unique, just simple stadium for games and I think it's enough. No need to create spectacular nests

[canarywondergod]

Originally Posted by Sponsor

I agree. Nothing unique, just simple stadium for games and I think it's enough. No need to create spectacular nests

Exactly, it serves the purpose it was constructed for and unlike the Birds Nest, there will be a tenant after the Olympics. No white elephant here.

[DoverBeach]

I found recently in the news that the London authority wants the fan going by feet or by bike to games, is that true? And how do will they keep the bikes secure?

[RobH]

Not sure if it's UK only, but a video taken from the top of one of the floodlights; a long way up:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12037591

[R.K.Teck]

Awesome, 80% of the black stuff is in, and it looks like a scoreboard in place too!!

[jerseyboi]

image hosted on flickr

lights on

[RobH]

image hosted on flickr


from diamond geezer on flickr

[RobH]

[Axelferis]

lol Boris johnson was giving an interview on skynews in the stadium with snow falling!! very cold!!

i saw the enlightement with prime minister d cameron and children

[PortoNuts]

BBC London News: Stadium Lights

[R.K.Teck]

Will the Olympics be held at night/evening? Surely not, I always thought they would be a day thing, ie finished before 7:00pm,,,

[DarJoLe]

The opening ceremony starts at 7.30pm.

[AshVentini]

Originally Posted by Curva Nord

I really love London stadiums (for FOOTBALL) like Craven Cottage, Upton Park and Stanford Bridge.
But could I say that this new Olympic stadium is very orrible?

This stadium is very functional, but very ugly.... It seems like it will look un-completed when it is finished!
It is a white elephant! And is in danger of being another Delle Alpi!
This stadium cannot be re-developed for football without massive costs (removal of track and stands reduction etc, because logically the physical shape and size of structure is not good for football dimensions etc. If the track goes and the physical stadium is not reduced hugely, then is will be empty for games... And to keep the track, well just look at Italy, when clubs are trying to move away from this.. It may be attractive idea to say that you have a brand new large stadium, but history suggests BAD BAD idea... London football clubs should NOT touch this at all. Heed the warnings! Just ask a Juve fan about the Delle Alpi and you will see....

[Mr Trebus]

it should be kept just for athletics,cricket and as another concert arena in my view

[jerseyboi]

Originally Posted by AshVentini

This stadium is very functional, but very ugly.... It seems like it will look un-completed when it is finished!
It is a white elephant! And is in danger of being another Delle Alpi!
This stadium cannot be re-developed for football without massive costs (removal of track and stands reduction etc, because logically the physical shape and size of structure is not good for football dimensions etc. If the track goes and the physical stadium is not reduced hugely, then is will be empty for games... And to keep the track, well just look at Italy, when clubs are trying to move away from this.. It may be attractive idea to say that you have a brand new large stadium, but history suggests BAD BAD idea... London football clubs should NOT touch this at all. Heed the warnings! Just ask a Juve fan about the Delle Alpi and you will see....

The stadium is very minist - and can and will be able transform
to what ever the new owners require.

A different kind of Olympic stadium
The organisers of the London 2012 Olympic Games were certainly not looking to make life easy for the architect of the Olympic stadium when they set out their brief to design a stadium which could be reduced from 80,000 seats to 25,000 seats after the Games.

The stadium is made up of layers, some of which are temporary
While Populous had previously worked on the Sydney Olympic Stadium, which was reduced from 115,000 seats to 83,000 seats, the scale of conversion proposed for London was unprecedented.

This challenge was further compounded by the physical constraints of the island site, as initial studies of comparable stadia indicated that they would not fit on the site.

Our starting point was therefore to consider the island as the stadium, with spectators effectively entering as they walked over one of the five new bridges that were proposed to connect "Stadium Island" with the remainder of the Olympic park.

We then considered how the topography of the site could be used to accommodate the proposed split of temporary and permanent seating.

“
In order to respond to the strong sustainability agenda set by London 2012 we decided to embrace the temporary” Rod Sheard Senior Principal Architect

The six metre fall from north to south meant that a "cut and fill" approach could be adopted that would enable a permanent, landscaped bowl to be formed within the earth for the 25,000 permanent seats, with a separate temporary structure for 55,000 temporary seats above.

This had the added benefit of segregating the athletes and media (who were located on the lower ground at the level of the track) from the spectators, who could now enjoy level access across the bridges and straight into the stadium.

The next step was to consider how the spectator facilities should be provided in a temporary building.

In order to respond to the strong sustainability agenda set by London 2012 and to minimise the costs involved in transformation after the Games, we decided to "embrace the temporary" and remove the majority of spectator facilities from within the stadium and locate them in self-contained "pods" around the island.

A 3D "slice" of the stadium from track level to lighting rig
These pods were then grouped into villages, which allow spectators to enjoy the ambience of the park setting, as well as the athletics.

By pulling these facilities out of the main body of the stadium, we were able to dramatically reduce the scale and mass of the building, as well as the embodied energy required in the construction.

This had the added benefit of enabling the creation of a much more intimate seating bowl, with spectators much closer to the track than in comparable stadia.

more from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11418422

[Evil78]

Looking at the last two Olympic stadiums, this arena in London, in the year 2012 (!!!) will be a HUGE disappointment in terms of design. It's like taking a trip in the past, not in the future.
2008...

2004...