LONDON - Olympic Stadium (79,999) - Page 52

radioheader · May 31st, 2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alix_D

It'll be a white elephant, last I heard (although not recently) was that no-one wanted it.

OMG! Beijing II?

RobH · May 31st, 2009, 07:36 PM

The last he heard is wrong.

The stadium will hold international and domestic athletics meets in its smaller configuration, will be home to the English Institute of Sport as well as a National Skills Academy for young athletes.

ReiAyanami · May 31st, 2009, 07:58 PM

Can sb say again where the temporary stands will be shipped after the games??? Chicago?

Athinaios · May 31st, 2009, 08:10 PM

Chicago wants to build a 80K stadium and after it will turned into an 5K amphitheatre... but I dunno if they want to use temp stands of this stadium.

radioheader · May 31st, 2009, 08:58 PM

And how many seats the Olympic Stadium will have after the Olympics? (I heard that there will be temporary stands)

DarJoLe · May 31st, 2009, 10:17 PM

25,000 permanent seats, built into the lower bowl of the stadium below the temporary stands.

radioheader · May 31st, 2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DarJoLe

25,000 permanent seats, built into the lower bowl of the stadium below the temporary stands.

Thanks!

haggiesm · June 1st, 2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RobH

The last he heard is wrong.

The stadium will hold international and domestic athletics meets in its smaller configuration, will be home to the English Institute of Sport as well as a National Skills Academy for young athletes.

that actually sounds better than what i'd read before.

Alix_D · June 2nd, 2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RobH

The last he heard is wrong.

The stadium will hold international and domestic athletics meets in its smaller configuration, will be home to the English Institute of Sport as well as a National Skills Academy for young athletes.

A great use of a 25,000 seater stadium

JimB · June 3rd, 2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Alix_D

A great use of a 25,000 seater stadium

Okay, Einstein........what do you suggest?

Newcastle Guy · June 3rd, 2009, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Alix_D

A great use of a 25,000 seater stadium

What's your problem? London has lots of big stadiums, but it needs something like this. You posted something that was wrong, and then you were proved wrong, you posted this crap with the stupid

on the end...

Alix_D · June 3rd, 2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JimB

Okay, Einstein........what do you suggest?

An Eastland's style redevelopment, thus giving it a great use and long lifespan. Giving it some poxy teenage meetings when there are already examples of wasted things like this (see DVS) just seems stupid.

The Olympic legacy in this country is going to be a few metal tubes erected above a daycare centre on slum clearance land. Don't you think that's a waste?

RobH · June 3rd, 2009, 11:14 PM

It would be were that the case.

DarJoLe · June 3rd, 2009, 11:44 PM

What's 'Eastland' and 'DVS'?

JimB · June 4th, 2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alix_D

An Eastland's style redevelopment, thus giving it a great use and long lifespan. Giving it some poxy teenage meetings when there are already examples of wasted things like this (see DVS) just seems stupid.

The Olympic legacy in this country is going to be a few metal tubes erected above a daycare centre on slum clearance land. Don't you think that's a waste?

You haven't thought this through very carefully, have you? And nor have you bothered to read even a few pages back in this thread. Otherwise, you would have seen that this question has already been answered on more than one occasion.

You cannot compare Eastlands with the 2012 Olympic stadium. The CoM stadium was a 38,000 capacity venue for the Commonwealth Games. Transforming it into a football stadium by removing the track and digging down in order to create the lower tier was an ideal solution. It was ideal because it left Manchester with a 48,000 capacity stadium - just what Manchester City wanted.

If you did , to use your words, an "Eastland's style redevelopment" of the 2012 Olympic stadium, you'd end up with a stadium with a 90,000+ capacity. Who would use it?

Arsenal already have a new stadium.

Chelsea wouldn't want to move 15-20 miles across London and couldn't, in any case, come close to filling such a stadium for the vast majority of games.

Spurs wouldn't want to move into West Ham territory and have no more need for a 90K stadium than Chelsea.

West Ham, the only other London club with a big fan base and the only London club local to the Olympic park, have even less need for a 90K stadium than Chelsea or Spurs. They don't even sell out their 35K stadium for every Premiership game.

Clubs don't want to play games in half empty stadiums. They don't want to have to pay rent to use their stadium. They don't want to have to pay the maintenance costs for a 90K stadium when they only need a 50K or 60K stadium.

If clubs don't want to take on a rented, 90K capacity, redeveloped Olympic stadium and since they can't be forced to take it on, why would you build it? It would just be a white elephant.

Oh, and the Olympic legacy?........Are you suggesting that you believe that the Olympic legacy is about the Olympic stadium and nothing else?

Really?

Think about it.

flierfy · June 4th, 2009, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JimB

Spurs ... have no more need for a 90K stadium than Chelsea.

You overestimate the Chelsea support.

JimB · June 4th, 2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by flierfy

You overestimate the Chelsea support.

Maybe. Maybe not. The only relevant fact to this discussion is that neither club could come close to filling a 90K stadium for the vast majority of matches.

Alix_D · June 4th, 2009, 11:20 AM

When I say that style redevelopment, I don't mean above 90,000. Anyway, if it's been done before (and forgive me for only reading a few pages either side of start or finish, there are 52) I'll leave it alone.

Nevermind!

JimB · June 4th, 2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alix_D

When I say that style redevelopment, I don't mean above 90,000. Anyway, if it's been done before (and forgive me for only reading a few pages either side of start or finish, there are 52) I'll leave it alone.

Nevermind!

Fair enough.

I would just point out, though, that it would be impossible to do an "Eastlands style redevelopment" of an 80K stadium without increasing capacity to 90,000+.

DarJoLe · June 4th, 2009, 02:54 PM

As has been said over and over and over and over and over again for the last four years - the legacy of the Olympic stadium is not for football but much needed athletics facilities which London needs, which London wants, and which London will get.

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DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,672 Likes (Received): 397	25,000 permanent seats, built into the lower bowl of the stadium below the temporary stands. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

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DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,672 Likes (Received): 397	As has been said over and over and over and over and over again for the last four years - the legacy of the Olympic stadium is not for football but much needed athletics facilities which London needs, which London wants, and which London will get. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

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Alix_D Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 77 Likes (Received): 0	When I say that style redevelopment, I don't mean above 90,000. Anyway, if it's been done before (and forgive me for only reading a few pages either side of start or finish, there are 52) I'll leave it alone. Nevermind!