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Old August 15th, 2009, 03:49 PM   #181
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Old August 15th, 2009, 04:53 PM   #182
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because the forumer linked the image to the website rather than uploading it I tihkn, and the website keeps changing pics every day. It wasd not the original image the forumer intended to show
Yes Fusionist! You're right. It was a different pic when I saw it last (again it wasn't the original image the forumer intended to show).

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Old August 16th, 2009, 08:44 AM   #183
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for example to economize a house construction, the foundation and the outer walls are constructed using red bricks to make it strong whereas the inner walls of the house can be built using the hollow bricks, as the inner walls will not be subject to much wear and tear.
I don't see a cogent argument here. We have a reinforced concrete super-structure which is designed for the main load bearing. Brick/concrete blocks are just fillers in between. For earthquakes, red bricks are terrible, not sure about concrete blocks. If concrete blocks are strung together with steel rebars, it may be ok for earthquake protection. I am not convinced about the strength of red bricks, they may be good for compressive loads but a tensile stretch would be disastrous.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 03:46 AM   #184
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Old August 17th, 2009, 04:04 PM   #185
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The structural stability depends on the concrete structure of Columns and beams only. The walls are generally not load bearing (but for the G or G+1 buildings). Red Brick or Concrete blocks are used to just form the wall.

There are some adv and disadv for both. Clay (Red) Brick is enviro friendly and suits the indian climate better. But clay mining has led to many disasters. There are very few organised players who use mechanisation. Many still use firwood for burning the bricks. The availability has almost come down by 75% of the demand. Almost nil near the cities. The quality which is available is so poor - not burnt properly. (Put a few bricks in a bucket with water overnight. You should not see any deformation next morning)

The Hollow Concrete blocks are easier to make and they use lots of fly ash (bad by- Product from power plants). The quality available in India sucks. You can not chase electrical wires or plumbing lines as you please (The Great Indian Practice). Being Micro Concrete, it retains and emanates heat even after sunset. Good for cold climates.

There are other materials like Foam Concrete which are marginally better. They are light weight.

We also use 8x4 and 10x4 (feet) interlocking panels made of micro / foam concrete for speedier and remote construction.

It is always better to use locally available materials (say within a readius of 100 KMs) so that the Carbon usage is relatively less.

We tried bamboo reinforced concrete (instead of steel) in North East after we saw some traditional houses being built with bamboo and mud. They are so sturdy and looks good.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 08:54 PM   #186
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We tried bamboo reinforced concrete (instead of steel) in North East after we saw some traditional houses being built with bamboo and mud. They are so sturdy and looks good.
Such innovative local ideas need to be probed and put into practice in mass housing projects. My personal feeling is that we should demolish and rebuild most of the villages and habitations with some scientific layouts and sanitation facilities. The development and the idea of 'Modern Living' should start in villages. Now we have Engg. colleges in most of the places in TN, the Professors,Lectureres and Students shall spend sometime in modernising villages with the available funds under Panchayat raj, giving right advice and direction. Villages may not have well informed Administrators and technicians to kick start modernisation.

There are lakhs of irrigation pump sets in villages, but hardly anyone thought of Fluid Mechanics,NPSH, Power factor or friction losses while installing these things. All done with the local talents, ignoring 'Efficiency".

Our Govts are so engaged with Cities, Lakhs of villages remain as they were few hundred years ago.

Why not spend some efforts in Village planning? Why this obsession with Cities?
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Old August 18th, 2009, 02:25 AM   #187
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Now we have Engg. colleges in most of the places in TN, the Professors,Lectureres and Students shall spend sometime in modernising villages with the available funds under Panchayat raj, giving right advice and direction. Villages may not have well informed Administrators and technicians to kick start modernisation.

There are lakhs of irrigation pump sets in villages, but hardly anyone thought of Fluid Mechanics,NPSH, Power factor or friction losses while installing these things. All done with the local talents, ignoring 'Efficiency".

Why not spend some efforts in Village planning? Why this obsession with Cities?

Leo , please remember it always starts from you.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 07:58 PM   #188
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"Now we have Engg. colleges in most of the places in TN, the Professors,Lectureres and Students shall spend sometime in modernising villages with the available funds under Panchayat raj, giving right advice and direction. Villages may not have well informed Administrators and technicians to kick start modernisation.

There are lakhs of irrigation pump sets in villages, but hardly anyone thought of Fluid Mechanics,NPSH, Power factor or friction losses while installing these things. All done with the local talents, ignoring 'Efficiency".

Why not spend some efforts in Village planning? Why this obsession with Cities?"

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Old August 18th, 2009, 08:12 PM   #189
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Old August 18th, 2009, 08:17 PM   #190
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he he! i just symbolically meant "unnal mudiyum thambhi"

No offense gentlemen and ladies.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 09:22 PM   #191
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[QUOTE=vinodgopal;41467410]"
punjai undu nanjai undu pongivarum gangai undu
panjam mattum innum ingu maaravilla - enga

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Where is the "thandhan nana thandhanana ..." that comes in the begining
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Old August 18th, 2009, 10:45 PM   #192
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Why not spend some efforts in Village planning? Why this obsession with Cities?
Because villages are less efficient in terms of energy consumption - if we had 10 villages of population 1 lakh each, instead of 1 city/town with a population of 1 million, we'd need more resources for the distribution of power, water, food, etc. Cities, being more densely packed, waste less energy since goods, services and utilities need not travel as far. There's something called the Zipf Law that captures this relationship mathematically, but I'm not exactly sure I can explain it.

However, villages are important for us to grow food and things like that.
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^ that post was originally done by Leo_r and I just quoted it in inverted commas.
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Old August 19th, 2009, 10:22 AM   #194
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Leo , please remember it always starts from you.
It would be very unreasonable to expect others to know what I did and it will not be unassuming on my part to keep repeating what I did! It would then become ‘ad nauseam’

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Old August 20th, 2009, 03:33 PM   #195
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சென்னை, ஆக. 19: புதிய சட்டப்பேரவைக் கட்டடத்தில் இருக்கைகள் உள்ளிட்ட உள்கட்டமைப்பு வசதிகள் குறித்து முதல்வர் கருணாநிதி புதன்கிழமை ஆய்வு நடத்தினார்.

சென்னையில் அரசினர் ஓமந்தூரார் தோட்டத்தில் புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக வளாகம் கட்டப்பட்டு வருகிறது. "ஏ மற்றும் பி' என இரண்டு பிளாக்குகளாக கட்டடங்கள் கட்ட திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளது.

"ஏ பிளாக்' கட்டடப் பணிகள் தீவிரமாக நடைபெற்று வருகின்றன. இந்தப் பணிகளை 2010-ம் ஆண்டு மார்ச் மாதத்துக்குள் முடிக்க திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளது.

இந்த நிலையில், கட்டடப் பணிகளை முதல்வர் கருணாநிதி அடிக்கடி பார்வையிட்டு ஆய்வு செய்து வருகிறார். புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக வளாகத்தை செவ்வாய்க்கிழமை நேரில் சென்று பார்வையிட்ட அவர், அதிகாரிகளுடன் புதன்கிழமை ஆலோசனை நடத்தினார்.

இருக்கைகள் எப்படி? புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக வளாகத்தில் இருக்கைகள் உள்ளிட்ட உட்கட்டமைப்பு வசதிகளை ஏற்படுத்தும் பணிகளில் "டான்சி' நிறுவனம் ஈடுபட்டுள்ளது.

இப்போதுள்ள சட்டப் பேரவையில் "பெஞ்ச்' போன்று நீளமாக அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதால் எம்.எல்.ஏ.க்கள் வசதியாக அமர முடியவில்லை. இதுபோன்ற குறைபாடுகள் புதிய சட்டப் பேரவைக் கட்டடத்தில் இருக்கக் கூடாது என்று முதல்வர் கருணாநிதி அறிவுறுத்தியுள்ளார்.

இதைத் தொடர்ந்து, கேரளம், ஆந்திரம், ராஜஸ்தான் போன்ற மாநிலங்களின் சட்டப் பேரவையில் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள இருக்கை உள்ளிட்ட உட்கட்டமைப்பு வசதிகளை "டான்சி' நிறுவன அதிகாரிகள் பார்வையிட்டு வந்தனர். அதன் மாதிரிகளை முதல்வர் கருணாநிதியிடம் புதன்கிழமை காண்பித்தனர்.

அவற்றை ஆய்வு செய்த அவர், உரிய ஆலோசனைகளை அதிகாரிகளுக்கு வழங்கினார்.
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சென்னை, ஆக. 19: புதிய சட்டப்பேரவைக் கட்டடத்தில் இருக்கைகள் உள்ளிட்ட உள்கட்டமைப்பு வசதிகள் குறித்து முதல்வர் கருணாநிதி புதன்கிழமை ஆய்வு நடத்தினார்.

சென்னையில் அரசினர் ஓமந்தூரார் தோட்டத்தில் புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக வளாகம் கட்டப்பட்டு வருகிறது. "ஏ மற்றும் பி' என இரண்டு பிளாக்குகளாக கட்டடங்கள் கட்ட திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளது.

"ஏ பிளாக்' கட்டடப் பணிகள் தீவிரமாக நடைபெற்று வருகின்றன. இந்தப் பணிகளை 2010-ம் ஆண்டு மார்ச் மாதத்துக்குள் முடிக்க திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளது.

இந்த நிலையில், கட்டடப் பணிகளை முதல்வர் கருணாநிதி அடிக்கடி பார்வையிட்டு ஆய்வு செய்து வருகிறார். புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக வளாகத்தை செவ்வாய்க்கிழமை நேரில் சென்று பார்வையிட்ட அவர், அதிகாரிகளுடன் புதன்கிழமை ஆலோசனை நடத்தினார்.

இருக்கைகள் எப்படி? புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக வளாகத்தில் இருக்கைகள் உள்ளிட்ட உட்கட்டமைப்பு வசதிகளை ஏற்படுத்தும் பணிகளில் "டான்சி' நிறுவனம் ஈடுபட்டுள்ளது.

இப்போதுள்ள சட்டப் பேரவையில் "பெஞ்ச்' போன்று நீளமாக அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதால் எம்.எல்.ஏ.க்கள் வசதியாக அமர முடியவில்லை. இதுபோன்ற குறைபாடுகள் புதிய சட்டப் பேரவைக் கட்டடத்தில் இருக்கக் கூடாது என்று முதல்வர் கருணாநிதி அறிவுறுத்தியுள்ளார்.

இதைத் தொடர்ந்து, கேரளம், ஆந்திரம், ராஜஸ்தான் போன்ற மாநிலங்களின் சட்டப் பேரவையில் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள இருக்கை உள்ளிட்ட உட்கட்டமைப்பு வசதிகளை "டான்சி' நிறுவன அதிகாரிகள் பார்வையிட்டு வந்தனர். அதன் மாதிரிகளை முதல்வர் கருணாநிதியிடம் புதன்கிழமை காண்பித்தனர்.

அவற்றை ஆய்வு செய்த அவர், உரிய ஆலோசனைகளை அதிகாரிகளுக்கு வழங்கினார்.
Yep they should add arm rests, head rests and cushions to improve their posture so they can really concentrate on the job at their hands
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They may deserve comfortable cushioned chairs to focus on their jobs, but it must be ensured that these chairs are fixed firmly to the ground so they will not throw them at each other. The state cannot afford to lose its precious leaders due to the carelessness of the interior designers.
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Roads to new Secretariat to be widened

WALLAJAH Road and Swami Sivananda Salai, the roads that run along the southern and northern flanks of the government estate, will be converted into four-lanes at a cost of Rs 5 crore by the Corporation before the State Secretriat moves into its new building on the estate premises in March 2010.
The decision was taken in view of the expected increase of traffic on the roads, based on a study revealing that more than 12,000 vehicles, including 4,000 cars and 7,000 two- wheelers drive into the present Secretariat complex at Fort St George every day.

According to Corporation sources, processes related to widening of the roads and two bridges on them have been finalised and tenders would be floated by next week. The work would be completed before January 2010.

The two-km stretch of the 15 metre wide Wallajah Road, branching off from Anna Salai to reach Labour Statue, will be 29 metres wide and the 13-metre wide Swami Sivananda Salai from Napier Bridge to Anna Salai will be made 19 metres broad. Though the widening of Swami Sivananda Salai would be an easy affair as there are no private property on either side, Wallajah Road is lined by commercial establishments on one side.

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it will be great if this new assembly built on IT hightway end so that it can be really converted into 6 lanes in full swing
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