Chennai Flyover Projects

[vinodgopal]

Originally Posted by rsubbu.mdu

Unlike Padi area, Vandalur has space constraint due to width of NH45 and again Rail line running on one side. For light traffic this ROB is ok, only if heavy vehicles CV+ start using this extensively will the real trouble start.

Padi was super super super congested and had more space constraint than Vandalur.

[wlbkng]

Originally Posted by vinodgopal

Anna arch flyover update...

The compound wall of the Sidha institute and a temple has been demolished. Several shops of the mini burma bazaar have been demolished and others asked to vacate. I think they have started digging the sands for foundation.

Expected time of completion is 2 years from now. - Good to see one more traffic bottleneck addressed.

Temple na mattum easy ah idichudranga. Dont know if they shifted everything as per traditions to new place.

Will they have guts to demolish a mosque or church just like that ?

[sshivakumar]

Originally Posted by wlbkng

Temple na mattum easy ah idichudranga. Dont know if they shifted everything as per traditions to new place.

Will they have guts to demolish a mosque or church just like that ?

Unless and otherwise there is some historic importance attached to it, I think we should demolish temple, mosque or church if it has to give way or on the way of an infrastructure project.

[wlbkng]

Dont get it, so any temple which doesnt have historic importance can be demolished if required? A temple is a temple, a place for 'theists' to connect to almighty of their wish irrespective of historic value it holds. Better to handle with care IMO and not to take it for granted.

[Arul Murugan]

Villivakkam subway nearing completion:



DKN

[Arul Murugan]

Originally Posted by wlbkng

Temple na mattum easy ah idichudranga. Dont know if they shifted everything as per traditions to new place.

Will they have guts to demolish a mosque or church just like that ?

There are more no. of temples on road sides compared to chruch/mosque. IMHO let it be any religious place, gvt can provide alternate place when it is going to be disturb the infrastructure projects execution. With this I am not telling grand temples can also be relocated... most of the road side temples might have been built b/w 100-300years before.

[ModernIndia]

Villivakkam subway.

As usual an attrocious quality of construction and finish. No smooth lines, and not a single straight/plum line (except for the cross beams). The stage joints on the walls are as usual crappy. The holes and imperfections have been filled with a different color plaster. Unintended protrusions at the bottom of the wall, where the wall meets the road.

Don't blame the people who are doing the job. Look at the tools they are using. A simple wooden block for maintaining a flat line. I think the PWD should be taken to task for not providing the proper tools and training the men. If the job is subcontracted, then the problem is with identifying the vendor and writing up the contracts.


I also question the need for such huge walkways on bot sides of the roads, taking up valuable space from vehicles. Are there so many people crossing the railway line in that place. Even if it is required, I think we should consider using the space more effectively. For example the space above the subway is completely unused and available. Can a foot overbridge type of solution be created, which doesn't reduce the space for vehicular traffic.

[vinodgopal]

Originally Posted by ModernIndia

Villivakkam subway.

As usual an attrocious quality of construction and finish. No smooth lines, and not a single straight/plum line (except for the cross beams). The stage joints on the walls are as usual crappy. The holes and imperfections have been filled with a different color plaster. Unintended protrusions at the bottom of the wall, where the wall meets the road.

Don't blame the people who are doing the job. Look at the tools they are using. A simple wooden block for maintaining a flat line. I think the PWD should be taken to task for not providing the proper tools and training the men. If the job is subcontracted, then the problem is with identifying the vendor and writing up the contracts.


I also question the need for such huge walkways on bot sides of the roads, taking up valuable space from vehicles. Are there so many people crossing the railway line in that place. Even if it is required, I think we should consider using the space more effectively. For example the space above the subway is completely unused and available. Can a foot overbridge type of solution be created, which doesn't reduce the space for vehicular traffic.

Sir, quality control norms must be there, there must be external audits during the construction to make it better. There are lots of ideas to make a final product defect free. We must run into a six sigma course for the PWD authorities where defects per million opportunities must be found out. in our case it would be like 50% defects!

Many things have to be streamlined but our country is all too chaotic to bother about these little things.

This country must be given to the hands of the British Raj once again i feel.

[PremChn]

Originally Posted by Arul Murugan

There are more no. of temples on road sides compared to chruch/mosque. IMHO let it be any religious place, gvt can provide alternate place when it is going to be disturb the infrastructure projects execution. With this I am not telling grand temples can also be relocated... most of the road side temples might have been built b/w 100-300years before.

so true Arul. I live near by in Nelson Manikam road and I know how the temple authorities encroached the sidewalks. The literately rented out the side walks to small petty shops. The side walks till the temple is neat and clean, one has to get down from the side walk to pass through the temple.

Also during Aadi month they will block half of the road near Anna Arch (3rd avenue) at least for one week to perform stage shows.

[sridhar_n]

Originally Posted by vinodgopal

Sir, quality control norms must be there, there must be external audits during the construction to make it better. There are lots of ideas to make a final product defect free. We must run into a six sigma course for the PWD authorities where defects per million opportunities must be found out. in our case it would be like 50% defects!

Many things have to be streamlined but our country is all too chaotic to bother about these little things.

This country must be given to the hands of the British Raj once again i feel.

Too strong a statement, I suppose.

But, the quality and execution of PWD is pathetic, to say the least. The issue is that they contract the job out to petty contractors - way to make money and that is also the reason for inordinate delays in execution. PWD dept has to be revamped.

[vinodgopal]

Originally Posted by sridhar_n

Too strong a statement, I suppose.

But, the quality and execution of PWD is pathetic, to say the least. The issue is that they contract the job out to petty contractors - way to make money and that is also the reason for inordinate delays in execution. PWD dept has to be revamped.

agreed but i am just using my democratic rights to vent out the frustration.

In other countries i would be arrested for saying something like that.

[Mukkesh]

Demolition work started again and we could see lots of activity today. Hope the construction starts soon.

[PremChn]

AnnaArch Flyover…

As per the AnnaArch Flyover diagram, the flyover ends before MMDA junction, at least they should extend it to bypass the MMDA & Poonamallee junction. The traffic at this junction is horrible during peak hours.

If possible they can even extend the flyover till the intersection between Poonamallee High Road and AnnaNagar (Near Naduvan Karai Bridge). There will be more traffic flow at this junction since some mall and housing projects are going on near this junction.

If this is made the stretch from Koyambedu Rohini Theater till Aminjikari Market will become a signal free stretch.

[kannan infratech]

Originally Posted by wlbkng

Temple na mattum easy ah idichudranga. Dont know if they shifted everything as per traditions to new place.

Will they have guts to demolish a mosque or church just like that ?

wlbkng,

You must be aware that temples pop up suddenly on platforms in TN. Some of them grow to be so big that they become bottle necks for future road expansion.

Of late, I am noticing foot path churches & dargahs / mosques types also popping up. (In Adyar KB Nager, the MRTS station parking could not be expanded due to a Pop Up Church. Every week hundreds of people are brought by vehicles for prayer and finally MRTS guys gave up)

Govt should also allot land for temples / Churches / Mosques in up coming / developing localities so that Foot Paths are not encroached.

There are agama vidhis for shifting a temple and those can be followed.

It happened in OMR near Perungudi / Shols. The wayside but old temple was shifted and rebuilt with all religious rights to a more spacious place inside and all expenses were by TNRDC.

[vinodgopal]

Tirumangalam flyover construction site was full of workers today at mid noon! So things are shaping up in the right direction. Could not manage to take a snap as traffic was heavy and i had no angles to take a snap.

[vinodgopal]

Originally Posted by kannan infratech

wlbkng,

You must be aware that temples pop up suddenly on platforms in TN. Some of them grow to be so big that they become bottle necks for future road expansion.

Of late, I am noticing foot path churches & dargahs / mosques types also popping up. (In Adyar KB Nager, the MRTS station parking could not be expanded due to a Pop Up Church. Every week hundreds of people are brought by vehicles for prayer and finally MRTS guys gave up)

Govt should also allot land for temples / Churches / Mosques in up coming / developing localities so that Foot Paths are not encroached.

There are agama vidhis for shifting a temple and those can be followed.

It happened in OMR near Perungudi / Shols. The wayside but old temple was shifted and rebuilt with all religious rights to a more spacious place inside and all expenses were by TNRDC.

Let me give you a picture of how it has been demolished. Looks like just a couple of places have been left alone. Maybe they are afraid after all. Onnu full a idikkanum illana idikave koodadhu. idhu enna idea vo...



That temple was encroachment only i guess - some wise guy constructed it to make some money through hundi as a lot of bus stops are nearby (Anna arch, nerkundram etc... and most women would put some hundi amount). I think it was built in the mid to late 80's. I remember they even had some puja and flowers sold at its entrance. Good money he would have made by now. Who knows the owner of this temple might even be a bhai who has stock holdings in Burj Dubbai!

[N.kumar]

Kannan sir,

i am all for encroached temples to go. esp those that sprung up in last 10-15 yrs. rest can be sorted out by adjustements.

many times encroachers build temples to ensure govt doesnt touch. now tht temples are easy targets, church/mosque started coming.

And govt crawls before them and has no guts to touch them

Its that which wlbkng is questioning. do the same for all uniformly.

modi vechara parunga gula uniform removal to the point he alienated even vhp.

but when its done selectively not nice. we know what happened in delhi when recently encroached mosque was brought down and what govt finally did

In chennai they were demolishing 500 yr old temple for metro. where as in initial stages adjustements were made after hue was raised for 200 yrs old church.

Had it not been for regime change metro would have packed the temple off.

[Arul Murugan]

Pillars started to raise for Thirumangalam flyover





DKN

[murlee]

Construction work on flyovers held up

Construction work on two flyovers, which have been proposed to decongest traffic at the Aminjikarai and Anna Nagar arch junctions, has been held up for over two months now on account of the police not giving permission to divert traffic.

Officials of the Highways Department, the implementing agency, said the work has come to a standstill. The piling work for the loop of one of the flyovers near the Arignar Anna Government Hospital of Indian Medicine's farm is, however, progressing and expected to be completed soon.

Additional Commissioner of Police-Traffic (in-charge) Sanjay Arora said major traffic diversions were recently introduced in Anna Nagar to facilitate construction of underground stations of Metro Rail. Any new diversion plan can be implemented only after the existing traffic flow stabilises.

However, officials of the Highways Department said the time taken for granting permission for traffic diversion would push the deadline of the project by several months. “We have to start the foundation work simultaneously at the junctions to finish the flyovers within the project period of two years,” an official said.

The Rs.117-crore project was launched in February to make Periyar EVR Salai signal-free. The traffic volume at the two junctions is estimated to be about two lakh passenger car units daily.

One of the flyovers, which would be 520-metre long and 7.5 metre wide, would begin on Nelson Manickam Road and land on Periyar EVR Salai. The other flyover would be 590-metre long and of the same width. It would start on Periyar EVR Salai and land on Anna Nagar Third Avenue.

The loop from the flyover leading to the Third Avenue would land near the medicinal farm and join Periyar EVR Salai. As the right turn from Nelson Manickam Road into Periyar EVR Salai would not be available, motorists would have to take the loop to proceed towards Kilpauk on Periyar EVR Salai.

Officials said that portion of Third Avenue has been widened to provide an additional space of eight metres. Lanes off Nelson Manickam Road, including Govindan Street and Muthukrishnan Street leading to Periyar EVR Salai, have been identified for vehicle diversion when the work would begin.

Chennai Metrowater has called for tenders to shift water and sewerage pipelines at the junctions, the officials said.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle2736887.ece

[natarajan1986]

Problems in acquiring land are the biggest impediment to infrastructure projects in the state. Of the 600 hectares needed for the 224 projects in the state, the highways department has managed to acquire just 77 hectares. In Greater Chennai, there are 80 projects requiring 276 hectares but a mere 45 hectares have been acquired.
“Any project we take up invariably ends up in land acquisition cases. This is the biggest reason for delays,” said a highways official.
In Chennai, the worst-affected are the flyovers at Porur, Tirumangalam and Moolakadai. At Porur, where 9,600 sq m of land had to be acquired from 126 people, there has been no work “since March. Land acquisition was completed in July, but now utility agencies are not cooperating,” said a highways official. “We took over two years to convince everyone to part with their land,” he said. “If everything goes smoothly, the process should not take more than a year,” he said.
Land acquisition eats up most the cost. “Of the total of 35 crore, 19 crore has been set aside for compensating land owners,” said an official.
Such delays, contractors say, increase their expenditure. “While submitting the tenders, we quote the price taking into account the current market rates of material. With these delays, our costs have already increased,” said a contractor.
“At Moolakadai, we notified the owners in June 2009 but haven’t acquired any land so far,” said an official. “Only 5.15% of the project is complete and the overall cost has already increased by 1 crore.”
Just 20% of the 57-crore flyover at Tirumangalam has been completed when around 35% should have been over. The deadline is December 14, 2012. “It is annoying to see no work happening. We have been suffering for the last two years. I take at least 15 minutes to cross that junction,” said K Suresh, a commuter.
Similarly affected is the bridge planned over the Ennore Creek where around 1,700 sq m of land had to be acquired. “Everyone agreed except one. If he agrees, we can start work on both sides of the bridge,” said an official. “We should have finished 40% by now but have managed only 24%,” he said.
Since the past two years, persons whose land is sought for infrastructure projects have been compensated as per commercial rates rather than guideline value (the rate fixed by the government). “People want the market value for their land. Sometimes, people are too attached to give up their land,” said a senior highways official.
Those whose lands are acquired for projects are affected the most, while those whose lands are close to the project site benefit as the value goes up. “There has to be an equitable way of distributing land and the benefits of the new project,” says Shirley Ballaney, Ahmedabad-based town planner.
TIMES VIEW
The primary requirement for any infrastructure project is land and it is this physical asset that is coming in the way of development in the state. Experts say incentive-based approach of land pooling may help break the deadlock between unrelenting land owners and the government. But this may not be feasible in developed cityscapes where land comes at a premium. In such cases, the government should consider paying property owners the market value. Other suggestions include giving stakeholders greater development rights or a higher floor space index.


PORUR FLYOVER Start date: FEB 2, 2010 Deadline: AUG 8, 2011 Progress so far: 10% Land required (in sq m): 9,602 Acquisition status: COMPELETE AS ON JULY 2011


TIRUMANGALAM FLYOVER
Start date: NOV 15, 2010 Deadline: NOV 14, 2012 Progress so far: 20% Land required (in sq m): 532 Acquisition status: NO PROGRESS



MOOLAKADAI FLYOVER
Start date: JAN 26, 2011 Deadline: JAN 25, 2013 Progress so far: 5.15% Land required (in sq m): 4,102 Acquisition status: NO PROGRESS


ENNORE CREEK BRIDGE
Start date: NOV 15, 2010 Deadline: NOV 14, 2012 Progress so far: 23.94% Land required (in sq m): 1,712 Acquisition status: ONE PLOT REMAINING.

I though thirmangalam is going on for two years but this gives clear picture where they got started