daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > European Forums > UK & Ireland Architecture Forums > Projects and Construction > Liverpool Metro Area

Liverpool Metro Area 'Scouse Scrapers for both sides of the Mersey



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old July 15th, 2008, 12:09 PM   #81
Chris B
Liverpool - Est. 1207
 
Chris B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Liverpool - Unique Redefined
Posts: 8,844
Likes (Received): 1788

From Property Week -

Quote:
The bold and the BID

11.07.08

By Mark Shepherd

Retailers on Liverpool’s Bold Street may become part of a business improvement district to stop shoppers leaving for Liverpool One.

There was a time when ladies who went shopping on Bold Street felt compelled to wear elegant evening gloves for fear of looking underdressed while browsing the fine jewellers and high-end fashion boutiques.

That was 40 years ago. These days the most famous shopping street of Liverpool’s yesteryear is at the centre of concerns about the impact of Grosvenor’s £900m Liverpool One scheme on independent retailers.

Tenants on Bold Street fear that shoppers attracted into Liverpool by the development, which opened last month, will not venture to a part of town that has now been pushed further to the periphery of the city’s retail district.

To counter what they see as a potential threat, Bold Street’s retailers are asking the North West Development Agency for a grant of £3.5m to pay for maintenance works and in October will vote on whether Bold Street should join a neighbouring business improvement district (BID).

One prominent landlord who fears for the prospects of Bold Street has offered rent rebates to tenants to offset the costs of becoming a BID. Liverpool City Council has also vowed to keep a close watch on the fortunes of the area and says it is willing to step in and help independent retailers if it becomes necessary.
Article continues here - http://www.propertyweek.com/story.as...de=3118111&c=1
__________________
Liverpool - Unique Redefined
Chris B no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
 
Old July 23rd, 2008, 01:32 PM   #82
Chris B
Liverpool - Est. 1207
 
Chris B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Liverpool - Unique Redefined
Posts: 8,844
Likes (Received): 1788

From the Echo -

Quote:
Firms move in to Church St

Jul 23 2008 by Vicki Kellaway, Liverpool Echo

BIG NAME businesses will move into city centre shops deserted by the exodus to Liverpool One.

There were fears for the future of Church Street and Lord Street after companies such as John Lewis, Zara, Gap and WH Smith decamped into the £1bn development.

But HSBC, River Island and Marks & Spencer were among those announcing their support for Liverpool’s traditional shopping streets today.

Work has already started on converting empty stores into modern premises for the firms to take over.

HSBC is spending £3m transforming the former Gap, at the junction of Church Street and Whitechapel, into a new branch with 50 members of staff and 10 cash machines for customers.

The bank hopes to complete the work early next year.

A spokesman said: “HSBC is always looking to improve our branches – particularly in Liverpool which is one of our major cities.”

Marks & Spencer is preparing to move into the old George Henry Lee building, left empty when John Lewis moved into one of Liverpool One’s anchor stores.

It will move lock, stock and barrel while its Church Street home is revamped and almost doubled in size.

Workmen will take more than a year to complete the transformation.

A Marks & Spencer spokesman said: “It is the first time we have moved out of a store to refurbish it but it will really speed up the process.

“The building is listed and very complex which is why it will take so long to redevelop.

“We looked at all the options, but our customers would be up in arms if we moved away.

“Marks & Spencer belongs in Church Street. It is an amazing building.”

Meanwhile, River Island will move across Church Street into the former WH Smith store.

Advertising boards say fashion outlets Jack & Jones and Vera Moda will replace Zara at Church Street’s junction with Paradise Street.

Liverpool Chamber of Commerce chief executive Jack Stopforth said: “The fact the former Gap, Zara and WH Smith premises were let so quickly after the tenants relocated to Liverpool One shows Church Street is still an attractive location.

“The redevelopment of Marks & Spencer and the fact the street is home to one of the largest Primark stores will continue to attract shoppers and retain the balance in the city centre.”

Mr Stopforth said the October opening of Liverpool One’s second phase, which includes a walkway through the old HMV premises, will further improve accessibility between the old and new shopping areas.

He added: “Liverpool One has already attracted huge numbers of shoppers and that has got to have a positive spin-off for retailers throughout the city centre.”
From here - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-21388902/

OK, so we've known about much of the above for a while, but it's good to have further confirmation.
__________________
Liverpool - Unique Redefined
Chris B no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2008, 01:44 PM   #83
buggedboy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,036
Likes (Received): 861

I hate to them them all I told you so...

..Actually, I quite enjoy it.
buggedboy está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2008, 02:16 PM   #84
Richard_A
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,289
Likes (Received): 7

Last weekend was the first time we've gone 'browse' shopping in Liverpool (rather than just going to get a specific item) in a long time. We ended up spending over £300 in Liverpool One and Lord Street, without planning to. We easily preferred shoppng there to any of the South East towns (such as Slough, Reading, Milton Keynes etc), or even London. That's not to say London is inferior for retail, because that would be absolutely ludicrous, but it certainly is less convenient and compact.

When the rest of Liverpool One opens, and presuming that the future of Bold Street can be assured, all the city centre would need was a very strong city centre market area and it really would have the lot.

Incidentally, it didn't even occur to us to look in St. Johns and I've not ventured in there for many years.
Richard_A no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2008, 02:50 PM   #85
Richard_A
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,289
Likes (Received): 7

Another thing - the friendliness of the staff was a major difference.

Down here, the best you can normally expect is the bare minimum of automated politeness and you often don't even get that. There are exceptions of course.

In Liverpool, in every single shop we visited the staff seemed genuinely friendly, talkative and inquisitive. We had our 9 month old boy with us in his pushchair and he's never had so much fuss made of him when we are out and about.

Another thing that made an impression on me, and this might sound a bit odd, was the manner of a muslim woman, in hijab, working in Sainsbury's on Old Hall Street. She was friendly, jokey and again, inquistive, asking what we had planned today and so forth in her scouse accent. In short, she came across as just like everyone else - just like any other scouser.

You might wonder why I find that noteworthy.

The reason is I now live on the western edge of London in High Wycombe, a town with a major muslim population, with Slough and Luton just down the road, also towns with major muslim populations. I'm very, very used to muslim women being slightly distanced, detached and unapproachable. This includes those who work in shops (most shops in Slough's retail areas have a lot of muslim women employed on the shop floor). That's not to suppose that these women are by nature cold and humourless, more that culturally there seems to be some sort of a barrier, a standoffishness. I've always presumed this was a result of their family's religion and culture.

However, after this weekend, I was left wondering if the aforementioned 'standoffishness' I expect is not really cultural so much as it is regional. In other words, in terms of behaviour, perhaps muslim women down here are just as much influenced by the more distant and detached manner of the home counties English as they are by their religion or parent's culture.

Any thoughts on that?

Last edited by Richard_A; July 24th, 2008 at 01:17 AM.
Richard_A no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 23rd, 2008, 09:21 PM   #86
guenuk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 886
Likes (Received): 2

Really interesting point that Richard A, difficult to verify obviously whether its becos of culture or area why someone appears standoffish but I think Liverpool is lucky in many ways to have such a strong regional identity right down to the accent, I would hope that it is a particularly unifying factor for all newcomers to the city.

Liverpool is becoming visibly more multi cultural especially seeing women wearing headscarfs, thats only a fairly recent thing to see....well for me anyway, never really noticed that 10 years ago or more....maybe I just walked around blind I don't know. I was in Next shopping a few weeks ago and there was woman wearing a headscarf serving at the till, you know I have never seen that in Liverpool before.
guenuk no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 24th, 2008, 12:59 PM   #87
Babaloo
Fiat Lux
 
Babaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,598
Likes (Received): 1

It would be interesting to see whether this holds true in say Lodge Lane where muslim identities are more established and there might be an expectation that muslim women should behave in a particular way.
Babaloo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 25th, 2008, 01:38 PM   #88
Chris B
Liverpool - Est. 1207
 
Chris B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Liverpool - Unique Redefined
Posts: 8,844
Likes (Received): 1788

From the Echo -

Quote:
Shopping boom after Liverpool One opens

Jul 25 2008 by Neil Hodgson, Liverpool Echo

HUNDREDS of thousands of extra shoppers flocked to the city after the opening of Liverpool One.

New figures show 1.88m people were recorded on camera at the busy junction of Church Street and Whitechapel in June, 300,000 more than in the same month last year.

City centre managers today welcomed the 16% increase, saying it was evidence Liverpool One had boosted traditional shopping areas, rather than taken business away.

Before the £1bn district’s grand opening in May, Bold Street traders feared they would particularly suffer because they are located away from the main pedestrian routes into Liverpool One.

But CCTV cameras run by the Business Improvement District showed the number of shoppers in all parts of the city centre soared, with an obvious knock-on effect on shop tills.
Quote:
When phase one of Liverpool One opened on May 29, it attracted 10,602 people in the first hour alone.

Throughout the opening day, the number of shoppers at the Church Street junction was up 120% on the same day last year, and 421% more shoppers were filmed than on the week before the launch.
More here - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-21403330/
__________________
Liverpool - Unique Redefined
Chris B no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 25th, 2008, 02:03 PM   #89
markonasty
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 220
Likes (Received): 1

M & S simply food are moving into Central Station (The old Stationary Box shop).
markonasty no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 25th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #90
Villiers Terrace
I caught a falling star
 
Villiers Terrace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Venezia
Posts: 2,277
Likes (Received): 47

How on-line is helping you get a better deal on the high street.

Two weeks ago I popped into a specialist running-shoe shop.

Not having the model of shoe I was looking for, they agreed to order a pair. This would be at an unexpected, knock-down, internet-beating price at £40.

Having my doubts (they were from an old '06 line)but still hopeful I happily agreed and placed an order.

My doubts were confirmed yesterday when I got a phonecall from shop saying that Asics had reported the old stock had run out but I could have one of the newer version for.....£65 ???!!??

Somewhat disappointed, I sent this e-mail to the store director:

"Dear ----------,

As promised, one of your assistants contacted me about the trainers.

Unfortunately, the agent at Asics hasn't proved able to deliver the
promised model of Asics Gel Torana- which is a bit of disappointment.

They have however offered me this years Asics Gel Torana...but for £25
more than I was expecting to pay- not so great for essentially the
same shoe but in a different colourway.

I've just checked the Start Fitness site up in Durham and they're
offering the self same Summer '08 version of Gel Torana £39.95
(excluding delivery).

Since I'd actually much rather support high street outlets, such as
yours, rather than internet-based mail-order I was wondering if you
would match the £40 quote I was given originally?

I'll understand if you can't, but, as I say, I'd rather support the
actual shops so I'd like to offer you the sale first.

Thanks a lot, Paolo."



Result? A phonecall offering me this new-spec upgrade of the model for the same price as their online rival -£40, a reduction of £25- plus a free pair of running socks- r.r.p. £8.

Not bad really is it?

I would much rather support the high street, where I can, and it's good to see that high street retalers are starting to be forced into greater price flexibility and customer care in order to compete.

Get on it chaps.
__________________
Speech, given to men to hide his thoughts. R.P.MALAGRIDA

Last edited by Villiers Terrace; July 25th, 2008 at 05:09 PM.
Villiers Terrace no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 25th, 2008, 04:04 PM   #91
Awayo
Support the Squirrels
 
Awayo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 15,526
Likes (Received): 701

Good work Paolo. I'll have the socks. Cheers!
Awayo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 25th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #92
Villiers Terrace
I caught a falling star
 
Villiers Terrace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Venezia
Posts: 2,277
Likes (Received): 47

Arf.

I've stuck em on ebay for £50 reserve- "worn once by George Harrison."
__________________
Speech, given to men to hide his thoughts. R.P.MALAGRIDA
Villiers Terrace no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2008, 02:04 AM   #93
LiverOdysea
Est. 2005
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 539
Likes (Received): 6

Well, My Reports Suggest the new TopShop/TOPMAN store is set to be delayed until May 2009, Due to Asbestos.
Which means that Miss Selfridges which was meant to move inside, will instead be moving temporaraily to the old disney shop...

Also further news reports suggest Boots will be taking Barrots and Ann Summers to create its new 'superstore'.

Urban Outfitters are currently holding interviews
__________________
Since 2005.
LiverOdysea no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2008, 12:11 PM   #94
buggedboy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,036
Likes (Received): 861

Crap news re: topman, but does that mean there are implications for the rest of the route throug the building? According to my calculations, there are a couple of other retail units going into that first through route, with the main shops being in Peters lane behind that block.

If it has to happen then so be it, but I hope it doesnt impinge on the work to actually "do up" the front of the building or make good the route through to Peters Lane.
buggedboy está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2008, 12:25 PM   #95
mandykore
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 268
Likes (Received): 16

Grosvenor were talking publicly about asbestos complicating the work on the arcade to Peters Lane at least 18 months ago. They have always spoken of this causing significant additional spend, rather than a delay in planned opening.
mandykore no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #96
Chris B
Liverpool - Est. 1207
 
Chris B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Liverpool - Unique Redefined
Posts: 8,844
Likes (Received): 1788

Quote:
Originally Posted by LiverOdysea View Post
Miss Selfridges which was meant to move inside, will instead be moving temporaraily to the old disney shop...
That interesting. I didn't know they were moving. There's a planning application gone in for the Miss Selfridge store (nothing too exciting, just some new windows), but it does raise the question of who will be taking that unit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LiverOdysea View Post
Also further news reports suggest Boots will be taking Barrots and Ann Summers to create its new 'superstore'.
Now admittedly, the Whitechapel/Church Street store is a little pokey to say the least, and I can see why they would want to expand. However I wonder what effect (if any), this will have on the re-organisation of the Clayton Square branch? Maybe they will ditch those plans, and make this branch the flagship instead? It's probablt got a better location.
__________________
Liverpool - Unique Redefined
Chris B no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2008, 01:31 PM   #97
T0M
Scousish
 
T0M's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 6,794
Likes (Received): 0

Just as long as we don't loose the Clayton Square Boots. That and Zavvi are the only shops holding it up at the moment. I assume Boots does well enough to have 2 large stores in the city centre, and even though they're not all that far apart they nicely cover the two ends of town and will probably attract a different customer demographic.
T0M no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2008, 02:29 PM   #98
Support the Doka's
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 314
Likes (Received): 10

Just noticed the ann summers are now on the liverpool one on board list, so it would make sense that Boots are taking their current store on whitechapel.
Support the Doka's no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2008, 05:18 PM   #99
Support the Doka's
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 314
Likes (Received): 10

Todays EG says that MYO have taken space in the Tea Factory on Wood Street.
Looks like a good addition to the city!
Support the Doka's no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2008, 11:38 AM   #100
buggedboy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,036
Likes (Received): 861

Have you got a link? I don't know what EG is. MYO appears to be an ozzie sarnie brand or something. Is that what you refer to?
buggedboy está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.2.5 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu