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Old April 17th, 2009, 03:57 PM   #41
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I'm waiting for Radi's comments about its pavement and crashbarrier
"Ahhh, no crashbarrier!"
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Old April 17th, 2009, 04:00 PM   #42
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How about softness and gliding capabilities?
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Old May 5th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #43
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huh! Please stop this falsification of facts. Cuba has much better highways than these, with bridges, tunnels and interchanges...
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Old May 5th, 2009, 11:07 PM   #44
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I know for one subsea tunnel in Havana. That's all as I know.

The best motorway in Cuba is short one from Varadero to Varadero airport. It is still far from any normal motorway standards. Others are shown in various pictures and are still like that up to this date.
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Old May 5th, 2009, 11:07 PM   #45
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Have u been there?? I doubt it, i went to Cuba two years ago, i was in Pinal del Rio and those roads are even worse.
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Old May 6th, 2009, 02:44 AM   #46
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Hasta la carretera, siempre!
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Old May 6th, 2009, 04:15 AM   #47
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Not your everyday motorway! No road markings, median, grade seperated junctions and crash barriers. It would be really scary to drive on one of those roads!
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Old May 6th, 2009, 09:12 AM   #48
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It would be really scary to drive on one of those roads!
Average daily traffic is very very low (probably only few hundreds to few thousand AADT close to Havana) so it not scary driving. In contrary, it is very safe because of very wide and spacious roads. Imagine driving on motorway 4 lanes in one direction + emergency and encountering 1 vehicle every few minutes in the middle of the day.
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Old May 6th, 2009, 11:49 AM   #49
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Not your everyday motorway! No road markings, median, grade seperated junctions and crash barriers. It would be really scary to drive on one of those roads!
.... at night!
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Old May 6th, 2009, 02:54 PM   #50
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At night it's not scary at all. But it's a bit lonely, true.
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Old May 6th, 2009, 08:09 PM   #51
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.... at night!
Ending up on the other side of the road!! It like a huge runway with no reflectors or cats eyes!
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Old May 6th, 2009, 08:12 PM   #52
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Average daily traffic is very very low (probably only few hundreds to few thousand AADT close to Havana) so it not scary driving. In contrary, it is very safe because of very wide and spacious roads. Imagine driving on motorway 4 lanes in one direction + emergency and encountering 1 vehicle every few minutes in the middle of the day.
That is very low AADT indeed. With that much daily traffic would a single carriageway with better quality road,line markings, crash barriers be more efficent.
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Old May 6th, 2009, 11:17 PM   #53
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of course those roads on the pics above are dangerous, with no road markings, no median etc, but, they are not Cubas motorways... these are just some bad roads in Cuba...
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Old May 7th, 2009, 12:54 AM   #54
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of course those roads on the pics above are dangerous, with no road markings, no median etc, but, they are not Cubas motorways... these are just some bad roads in Cuba...
Thats fair enough. I thought they were one as they looked very wide on the pictures. Anyway I would like to see some of their motorways.
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Old May 7th, 2009, 09:45 AM   #55
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of course those roads on the pics above are dangerous, with no road markings, no median etc, but, they are not Cubas motorways... these are just some bad roads in Cuba...
Those are Cuban motorways. Don't tell lies. Been there, seen that, some pictures above were taken by me.
Only road markings I've seen on Cuban motorways, were on short Varadero-Varadero airport expressway and at same grade junction towards Jaguey Gran which was also crossed by railway line a bit later (also same grade). Still, motorway had 6 lanes+emergency with virtually no traffic.

Also this junction was the only one with modern signage. Mostly signage is non-existent. For example, junction for Cienfuegos city is signed with large socialist billboard of general Cienfuegos portrait and not with normal road signage. But mostly motorway exits don't have any signage.
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Old May 7th, 2009, 04:56 PM   #56
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Also this junction was the only one with modern signage. Mostly signage is non-existent. For example, junction for Cienfuegos city is signed with large socialist billboard of general Cienfuegos portrait and not with normal road signage. But mostly motorway exits don't have any signage.
....... and I thought Ireland road signage was bad

I guess a GPS is important to have with you over there. Is there much traffic enforcement in the country?
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Old May 7th, 2009, 05:45 PM   #57
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A good paper map is probably better idea. I doubt, that good GPS navigation exists for Cuban roads.

About enforcement: there are roadblocks with police every few tens of km where you need to slow down or even stop, but nothing serious. Police has more or less only old Lada and Moskvich cars, which are not suitable for following and stopping newer speeding vehicles.

But I would rather obey traffic rules mostly because of own safety because of bad roads and various things on them.
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Old May 7th, 2009, 06:26 PM   #58
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I know for one subsea tunnel in Havana. That's all as I know.
This is another tunnel in La Habana.



The worst ''big'' road I've seen in Cuba was the only one that connects two not very small cities Moa and Baracoa.

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Old May 7th, 2009, 07:34 PM   #59
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There's a nice motorway around La Havana and one to the airport. I have no idea about the Varadero highway. This tunnel above is in La Playa.
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Old May 8th, 2009, 09:34 AM   #60
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These highways are no worse then some african "democracies".
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