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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:28 PM   #461
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There will be no motorway from Dubrovnik to Herceg Novi! The Croatian A1 will end at BiH border near Dubrovnik (Osojnik). It's very likely that an expressway is build from the A1 at Dubrovnik to Dubrovnik Airport at Čilipi.

From there it's just another 15 km to the Montenegrin border and the terrain is rather easy there (Konavle). So perhaps, we will see an expressway connection Dubrovnik - Herceg Novi (and Tivat if Verige Bridge will be really built) in the next years.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:32 PM   #462
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Old November 30th, 2011, 10:39 PM   #463
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Whatever, they need a connection there
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 08:40 AM   #464
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i agree with darko. Bypassing Neum is the most realistic option Croatia has for the extension of the A1. Like it or unlike it. That's reality.

It's also not serious to think that MNE won't build two motorways at one time. There is also the possibility that the BB-Motorway will lost priority in the near future (it's still in construction bidding phase).

The year 2012 will tell us more
Most likely not. Beograd-Bar motorway has significant economical importance.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 02:27 PM   #465
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Most likely not. Beograd-Bar motorway has significant economical importance.
If you don't find somebody who will build it (with his money) or you don't have the money to build it by yourself, you surely will have to look for alternatives...
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 03:47 PM   #466
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here we go again
do you need once more list of reasons why BB and not AI?!
I cant believe it
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 04:33 PM   #467
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here we go again
do you need once more list of reasons why BB and not AI?!
I cant believe it
I don't see it stopping until one motorway starts building .
Anyway I "love it" how others always now what you have to do for yourself
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 04:47 PM   #468
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this story or dilemma doesn't exist except on this forum in mind of some Albanian and Croatian forum member
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 04:50 PM   #469
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I don't see it stopping until one motorway starts building .
Anyway I "love it" how others always now what you have to do for yourself
Who is "you" and who is "others".



I am sure, that no one will build BB motorway in concession. But AI motorway has some chances to be build in concession.

This way, I see a chance for Montenegro to build both motorways in the same time (BB with loans, budget money.. and AI motorway in concesion).
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 08:57 PM   #470
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I am sure that B-B will be buit before A-I
One last time, Bar-Boljare motorway is a priority because of many reasons listed before. Who doesn't know what those reasone are, just go few pages back.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 09:13 PM   #471
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Enough dreaming guys, let's go back to reality...

Short clip, good music, quality not that great - drive from the old medieval capital of Cetinje towards my village of Njegusi...




Drive through Moraca canyon - great quality but lots of unnecessary special effects


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Old December 2nd, 2011, 09:20 PM   #472
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I hope you that guys (Montenegro) will build BB motorway as soon as possible.


But/but, already three times was not achieved an agreement for this motorway to be built (Konstruktor, Aktor, Chineses..). I am very skeptical that BB will (start to) be build soon..



And again, because I am an Albanian and I can (will be) misunderstood (as I was many times) from some forum members, I am repeating that I hope that BB motorway will be completed yesterday!



As much as is concerned AI motorway, that motorway is a bit shorter, it will span in quite better terrain then BB motorway, and consequently will be much cheaper (I discovered America – wright?).

But this motorway can be easy given to concession, and cost Montenegro zero Euros.

Because it will have a much higher traffic than BB. And concessioners do not care which motorway is more important to country, but which one has higher traffic volume in order to collect more money from tolls (I discovered America, again!).

Anyway, if Croatia and Bosnia do not build their part of AI, I do not think that any concessioner will appear as an interested to build AI motorway.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 12:02 AM   #473
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Drive through Moraca canyon - great quality but lots of unnecessary special effects

This video- also one of the reasons why we need motorway from Podgorica to the north. Some people that post here can't even imagine what is it like to drive thru this canyon during the winter.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 01:45 AM   #474
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The view is absolutely breathtaking. Can you mark the road on google maps?
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 04:46 AM   #475
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I'd love to drive from Belgrade to Bar. Is driving on Montenegrin roads dangerous or it's just fine?
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 05:14 AM   #476
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Montenegrin roads have become quite safe now, First time I drove through Montenegro, a lot of roads had no guard rails on steep drops of over 1000m down, It was rather terrifying. Can't you just wait for the Belgrade - Bar motorway?
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Current 2-lane road is more interesting to me. How dangerous are Montenegrin drivers?
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 07:07 AM   #478
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here we go again
do you need once more list of reasons why BB and not AI?!
I cant believe it
Perhaps they do. Maybe they might be satisfied this time.

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This video- also one of the reasons why we need motorway from Podgorica to the north. Some people that post here can't even imagine what is it like to drive thru this canyon during the winter.
It was not comfterable during the summer! Whenever I go to Herceg-Novi, I dislike that part most.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 03:52 PM   #479
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I'd love to drive from Belgrade to Bar. Is driving on Montenegrin roads dangerous or it's just fine?
Roads have improved in the last few years, alot of them have new asphalt and there are many sections where third lane has been added. It is much safer now. Also there is a completely new road from Risan (coastline) to the Zabljak (north part). Drivers tend to be annoying sometimes, you should watch out when somebody tries to pass you because some people tend to do that in places where they shouldn't.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 04:51 PM   #480
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Thanks; so you have to be cautious and you're fine (and not driving too slowly).
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