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Old July 6th, 2009, 05:06 PM   #61
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He wasn't very positive about the roads in Montenegro. Roads don't make up the entire country though
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Old July 6th, 2009, 05:17 PM   #62
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Well you know everyone has some critics and concentrate mainly on them. And than all we read is critics and than someone who only criticized asks why is it underrated
It is ironic and funny.

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Old July 6th, 2009, 05:25 PM   #63
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He probably didn't list positive things, because this is a road subforum.
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Old July 7th, 2009, 09:25 PM   #64
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Well you know everyone has some critics and concentrate mainly on them. And than all we read is critics and than someone who only criticized asks why is it underrated
It is ironic and funny.
If I were to make a travel report, I would have listed the positive things also. I was just making comments about the downsides of the roads. I'm sorry if I left the wrong impression. The surface quality of roads was even better than I had expected, for example
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Old July 7th, 2009, 11:24 PM   #65
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No worries, you report is very much appreciated
How would you compare the road situation in Montenegro with your native Estonia?
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Old July 7th, 2009, 11:57 PM   #66
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No worries, you report is very much appreciated
How would you compare the road situation in Montenegro with your native Estonia?
Since Estonia is flat as a pancake, road construction here is easier and cheaper. Roads in Estonia are wider and signage is slightly better. As I already mentioned, road surface quality in Montenegro is pretty good. We didn't experience roads in very bad condition(except the local road that goes to the Ostrog monastery). City streets even have better surface quality than most streets in Estonian cities. All in all, both countries have lots of room for development, but I would say Estonia is a bit more developed in this matter.
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Old July 14th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #67
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Thanks for the comparison


Here's a nice set of photos taken by one of our forumers of the Podgorica (capital) to Kotor (medieval coastal city, UNESCO-protected) drive....

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Pominjah ovu dionicu. I evo, konačno slika od 11.06.

Izlaz iz Podgorice. Čuvena kuća(lijevo) koja je trebala biti restoran, zbog sjajnog pogleda na grad. Ipak, kao što se vidi, propalo.
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Prve tri trake
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Druge tri trake
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Ovdje su tri trake jedno sigurno 5-6km bez prestanka. Stara dionica se spojila sa novom.
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Prođe grad heroj, Cetinje
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Obzovica
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Kratka loša dionica
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Ono što mi definitivno djeluje 'najnestvarnije' - treća traka Brajići. To je bila najgora dionica, definitivno!
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Spomenik žrtvama IIsr
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Bolje ve našli
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Opet kratka loša dionica
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Čuveni tunel
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Na par mjesta je reasfaltiran put
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Desno- Markovići
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Prođe onaj 1km do Starog grada
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Jaz
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Kod Jaza- loša dionica
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Prilaz Vrmcu, koji se sada može nazvati tunelom
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I to je to....
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Većina(čitaj: sve) slike su 'cropovane', zbog mrlje na objektivu
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Old July 14th, 2009, 07:13 PM   #68
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Beautiful. Roads look good!
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Old August 8th, 2009, 08:37 PM   #69
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Looks like this thread will become active soon enough - more and more details about upcoming Bar-Boljari motorway construction are beginning to emerge, and if all goes according to plan, we will see the first shovels in the ground as early as september

In the most recent edition of Podgorica daily newspaper "Pobjeda", the motorway is likened to a "metro" , as most of it will consist of very long tunnels & bridges. Three tunnels of more than 3k meters are mentioned as well as a kilometer long bridge over Moraca river, with a clearance of ~170 meters, making it the third tallest bridge in Montenegro and sixth in Europe.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 10:01 AM   #70
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Ulcini - Albania borders?

Is there another border to Albania than Han-i-Hoti? I red somewhere that Shkoder-Han i Hoti is the route that trucks prefer (wider road) but small cars prefer the quickest route to Ulcini...

I am planning a trip from Athens to Dubrovnik and I was also wondering about the best way to cross Montenegro. I would certainly like to pass Kotor and then move to Dubrovnik. But is it better to return from Dubrovnik via Trebinje (Bosnia), Nicsic and Podgorica instead of Herceg Novi and Kotor? Is it quicker? Will I lose more time in the Croatian-Bosnian, Bosnian-MNE borders?

How much time should I consider for crossing MNE in the return?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 12:09 PM   #71
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I just can tell you that there are no waiting on HR-BiH and BiH-MNE border, but HR-MNE border can be real mess.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 12:48 PM   #72
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Is there another border to Albania than Han-i-Hoti? I red somewhere that Shkoder-Han i Hoti is the route that trucks prefer (wider road) but small cars prefer the quickest route to Ulcini...

I am planning a trip from Athens to Dubrovnik and I was also wondering about the best way to cross Montenegro. I would certainly like to pass Kotor and then move to Dubrovnik. But is it better to return from Dubrovnik via Trebinje (Bosnia), Nicsic and Podgorica instead of Herceg Novi and Kotor? Is it quicker? Will I lose more time in the Croatian-Bosnian, Bosnian-MNE borders?

How much time should I consider for crossing MNE in the return?
You can try both routes through Montenegro as following:
1)Shkoder-Ulcinj-Budva-Kotor-Herceg Novi-Dubrovnik
2)Shkoder-Han i Hoti-Podgorica-Cetinje-Kotor-Herceg Novi-Dubrovnik
or from Podgorica through Niksic, Trebinje through Dubrovnik.
Last year, in July, it took me one hour to pass through MNE-HR border, but it was in full touristic season.I think normally you can pass through the border in 20 minutes.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 03:51 PM   #73
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Montenegro has really improved its roads and safety in the recent years and has greatly improved travel time from Podgorica to Bar and Ulcin. The only drawback however is that the police are very corrupt. Especially those at the boarder controls, they always ask for money even if all the documents and insurance is correct. Probably most corrupt in the balkans.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 05:26 PM   #74
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Weren't that the 10 Euro's environment tax ?

I think that Debeli Brijeg is the only HR-MNE border crossing. As far as I know there are no crossings on the Prevlaka peninsula, if I'm right.
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Montenegro has really improved its roads and safety in the recent years and has greatly improved travel time from Podgorica to Bar and Ulcin. The only drawback however is that the police are very corrupt. Especially those at the boarder controls, they always ask for money even if all the documents and insurance is correct. Probably most corrupt in the balkans.
I don't think so.I've been last summer in Montenegro and didn't so any sign of corruption there in my 8 days holiday.But in Albania, I stayed 3 hours and was requested bribes for 3 times(border police twice and at entrance to skodra castle).
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Old August 21st, 2009, 01:25 AM   #76
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Incredible ! I must visit this beautiful country before the motorways of modernity...
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Is there another border to Albania than Han-i-Hoti? I red somewhere that Shkoder-Han i Hoti is the route that trucks prefer (wider road) but small cars prefer the quickest route to Ulcini...
There are two other border points, Murriqan and Vermosh. If you're coming from Ulqin, then you should drive through the Murriqan-Sukobinë border point. Hani i Hotit is meant for traffic coming from Podgorica.

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City's name is Ulcinj.

Here's Debeli Brijeg, border crossing between Montenegro and Croatia. Looks very good, IMO.

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I don't think so.I've been last summer in Montenegro and didn't so any sign of corruption there in my 8 days holiday.But in Albania, I stayed 3 hours and was requested bribes for 3 times(border police twice and at entrance to skodra castle).
At the castle they requested an entrance fee, just like any other place. At the border they requested 10 euros, an entrance fee to Albania. What did they request at your exit?
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