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Old August 21st, 2009, 02:19 AM   #81
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There are two other border points, Murriqan and Vermosh. If you're coming from Ulqin, then you should drive through the Murriqan-Sukobinë border point. Hani i Hotit is meant for traffic coming from Podgorica.
i really wonder if you think he knows what towns are you referring to, use international names if you want to help him and if you want him to understand, but if you want just to spread here nationalism than continue as you were.
Same would be if we would write to him "if you want to reach Skadar or Drač". Do you think he would understand?
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Old August 21st, 2009, 02:23 AM   #82
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i really wonder if you think he knows what towns are you referring to, use international names if you want to help him and if you want him to understand, but if you want just to spread here nationalism than continue as you were.
Same would be if we would write to him "if you want to reach Skadar or Drač". Do you think he would understand?
He'll find his way. All he's got to do is look at the road signs.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:12 PM   #83
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thank you all for your help! The truth is I've never found "Murriqan-Sukobinë" in google.maps but I believe it should be a southern -than Han i Hoti- pass from Albania to MNE.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 01:47 PM   #84
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At the castle they requested an entrance fee, just like any other place. At the border they requested 10 euros, an entrance fee to Albania. What did they request at your exit?
At the castle they requested half of the sum if we accepted not to receive tickets.At exit border control officer asked us(very kindly indeed) if we have some few euros for him.I searched my wallet and discovered just 60 cents in coins and he was quite upset I couldn't offered him more.And that entrance fee is not a 'polite' way of welcoming tourists, because u pay that sum for nothing(road tax or smth).But, after passing through this situations, Albania is still a wonderful place to visit.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:19 PM   #85
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These entrance fees are ridiculous, especially for countries with barely any motorways (Montenegro even doesn't have a single km). And then everyone is upset about the Slovenian vignette, which is required only for motorways and expressways.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:33 PM   #86
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It's also ridiculous that one has to pay 65 euros for an entry visa to, say, Slovenia.
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That's visa.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:43 PM   #88
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Well, Montenegro looks at road projects which are more expensive than their annual GDP. Those have to be financed somehow.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:49 PM   #89
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For those of you who are denying the corruption are totally wrong, I have nothing against Montenegrins in general but their police service is much more corrupt than that of Serbia's, Albania's FYROM's, Kosovo's, Croatia's, Bosnia's.... Trust me i've been too all these countries in the recent years.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:57 PM   #90
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Well, Montenegro looks at road projects which are more expensive than their annual GDP. Those have to be financed somehow.
They should find some other way. What about neighboring nations? How often will Croatians, Bosnians-Herzegovinians, Serbians, Kosovars and Albanians who live close to Montenegro go to the country, if they have to pay €10 every time they enter it? Same with Albania. (and I think Bulgaria?)
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Old August 21st, 2009, 04:03 PM   #91
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But do you have to pay € 10 every time? I thought you would just get an annual environmental sticker for 10 euros. Otherwise it'd be a pain in the ass for people in the border region.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 07:52 PM   #92
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But do you have to pay € 10 every time? I thought you would just get an annual environmental sticker for 10 euros. Otherwise it'd be a pain in the ass for people in the border region.
You are right Chris, we have to pay it annually, and it's not per person, but for car.For example in Albania they tax every person with 10 euro/entrance. The environmental tax is payed because Montenegro proclaimed itself an 'ecological state' since 1992, when they were still part of Yugoslavia, and they want to encourage people, as they say, not to travel to Montenegro by car, but by other, more ecological, means of transportations(airplane, train).
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They should find some other way. What about neighboring nations? How often will Croatians, Bosnians-Herzegovinians, Serbians, Kosovars and Albanians who live close to Montenegro go to the country, if they have to pay €10 every time they enter it? Same with Albania. (and I think Bulgaria?)
In Bulgaria you have to pay nothing excepting vignette, which is, I think, 5euro/week.But vignette is needed for national roads and motorways, not just motorways.(It's the same system we have here in Romania).
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Plane is ecological?
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Plane is ecological?
I don't know exact numbers but I think a plane with 200 people produces less CO2 emissions than 50 cars(assuming there are 4people/car).Maybe someone that knows exact numbers can tell us.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 01:15 AM   #96
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I don't know exact numbers but I think a plane with 200 people produces less CO2 emissions than 50 cars(assuming there are 4people/car).Maybe someone that knows exact numbers can tell us.
i really doubt. let's see: A320 consupmtion should be about 665 gal/h (2500l/h). an hour flight is app. DBV-ZAG, so 600 km by road. at those 600 km an average car will spend 50 litres. let's put passengers from A320 into cars (4 in each car). that will be about 35 cars, so they will spend 1750 litres of fuel.
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Generally, trains are the best, though High Speed Trains also consume quite some power, then the car, and at the bottom the airplane.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 02:53 AM   #98
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At the castle they requested half of the sum if we accepted not to receive tickets.At exit border control officer asked us(very kindly indeed) if we have some few euros for him.I searched my wallet and discovered just 60 cents in coins and he was quite upset I couldn't offered him more.And that entrance fee is not a 'polite' way of welcoming tourists, because u pay that sum for nothing(road tax or smth).But, after passing through this situations, Albania is still a wonderful place to visit.
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apparently the tourists dont mind paying it
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 04:53 AM   #99
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That's visa.
Which is what I said ("an entry visa"). You also need to pay a visa to Albania, valued at no less than 10 euros. And panda is complaining that he didn't have to pay full price for admission to the castle.
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They should find some other way. What about neighboring nations? How often will Croatians, Bosnians-Herzegovinians, Serbians, Kosovars and Albanians who live close to Montenegro go to the country, if they have to pay €10 every time they enter it? Same with Albania. (and I think Bulgaria?)
Most neighboring countries don't need to pay 10€ for Albania (from Kosovo you can visit only with ID, just like you can go to MNE only with ID), but I'm not sure if Montenegro has such a policy for cars from neighboring countries.
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