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[Qwert]

Originally Posted by Norkey

lol.
you are gibbering about things you don't understand.

Can you please explain me those things?

[:jax:]

Some more Czech films:

• Blood novel
• Anything from Svankmajer
• I Served the King of England

The latter film got mixed reviews, whether it measured up to Hrabal's book or not, that it was lighter, but I think it matched the spirit and is definitely worth viewing (alternatively reading/viewing/complaining...).

[HiRazor]

Originally Posted by Qwert

Radar, Kosovo, what will be next? Czech Republic wants to become 51st state of the USA? Czech government seems to forget Munich betrayal very soon.

Pre WWII Czechoslovakia didn't try to wipe out its minorities. Comparing Kosovo independence and Munich agreement is absolutely out of place and utterly unfair to democratic Czechoslovakia.

We can feel sorry for individual Serbs who have now appeared under foreign sovereignty which - in response to the events of the war - is often hostile or bitter to them. Similarly, we can feel sorry for the fate of individual Germans in eastern Europe after WWII. It definitely sucked for both, but both can only blame their own totalitarian governments for starting expansionist wars against their neigbours and ethnical cleansing campaigns against their minorities. Who seeds a wind, harvests a storm, as a czech saying goes.

[Singidunum]

Originally Posted by HiRazor

Pre WWII Czechoslovakia didn't try to wipe out its minorities. Comparing Kosovo independence and Munich agreement is absolutely out of place and utterly unfair to democratic Czechoslovakia.

Are you referring to Clinton's millions of killed Albanians which turned out to be the same thing as this?

[Turnovec]

It is funny how Kosovo's independence recognition is turned by some people into pro-USA , anti-Serbian or whatever else question.

I've been watching closely the public dispute in Bulgaria about Kosovo in the last months. There was a position for Kosovo's recognition as Serbia was always hostile and nonfriendly towards us ... There was a position against Kosovo's recognition because Serbs are orthodox brothers and the Kosovars are muslim and albanian. Those both positions even though looking totally opposite to each other are actually the same old BAD Nationalistic crap , that we have to leave 1-2 century behind in time.

The GOOD attitude about the Kosovo issue must be in the dialogue about the questions of the real choice, about the common future, about the security , about the economy and business ...

[Kappa21]

Since your on that topic.....

Can Serbia be broken apart more? I mean... from Croate-Serb Slovene Kingdom to Yugoslavia to = Former Yugoslavia and the breakup of the communist state to Serbia montengro and now Serbia.

Can Vojuvodija (sp???? PLEASEEEEEE) seperate?

[Singidunum]

I don't think so because Vojvodina has the majority of Serb population. Hungarians might want to do it but there aren't so many of them. But if they would succeed in their plans in Slovakia and Romania I suppose they would ask for the same thing for a few of their municipalities in Serbia. Anyway you are referring to breakup of Yugoslavia as the breakup of Serbia but it's wrong. The first territory to break off Serbia is Kosovo and it's hardly independent (even for the US it's a supervised independence and for countries like Serbia and Israel it's not any independence).

[RawLee]

I dont think people there want to separate...they could have done it during the war,but they stood. I'd say that if they get the same treatment as the majority,minorities wont break away. And Vojvodina is different than SK and RO's case,because AFAIK, Vojvodina is a semi-autonomous(or they have some freedom in policies) part of the country.

[Singidunum]

Vojvodina is the Autonomous Province like Kosovo though some of the autonomy was stripped for them by Milosevic it still has freedom in many areas to decide on it's own. In general I think minorities are treated well, Serbia was even praised by the EU for doing the great job in preserving minority languages. Hungarians were loud in months before the referendum in Hungary on citizenship but when Hungarians voted no they moderated their positions. After all it's not like Hungarians are the only ones having hard times, it's Serbs as well. So there is no secessionist movements among Hungarians from Serbia (there was some 64 counties leaders visiting Vojvodina to spread the idea of the Greater Hungary but they were kicked out) but I am not sure if Hungarian areas from Slovakia and Romania would join Hungary that Hungarians from Serbia wouldn't get the same idea.

[Ivanski]

It's interesting for me how come Kosovo was almost 10 years ran under UN administration, so practically was a part of Serbia just theoretically but whole that independence process somehow came sudden...

[Qwert]

Originally Posted by HiRazor

Pre WWII Czechoslovakia didn't try to wipe out its minorities. Comparing Kosovo independence and Munich agreement is absolutely out of place and utterly unfair to democratic Czechoslovakia.

We can feel sorry for individual Serbs who have now appeared under foreign sovereignty which - in response to the events of the war - is often hostile or bitter to them. Similarly, we can feel sorry for the fate of individual Germans in eastern Europe after WWII. It definitely sucked for both, but both can only blame their own totalitarian governments for starting expansionist wars against their neigbours and ethnical cleansing campaigns against their minorities. Who seeds a wind, harvests a storm, as a czech saying goes.

Well, some people would say Czechoslovakia wiped out some of the minorities after WW2 as well, only in a bit differen way... Rather watch this documentary by Czech TV which is now from "some reason" hesitating whether to broadcast it or not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU_PzuJ1zMU (this is its first part, there are another 5 parts on YouTube).

[Kappa21]

Originally Posted by Singidunum

I don't think so because Vojvodina has the majority of Serb population. Hungarians might want to do it but there aren't so many of them. But if they would succeed in their plans in Slovakia and Romania I suppose they would ask for the same thing for a few of their municipalities in Serbia. Anyway you are referring to breakup of Yugoslavia as the breakup of Serbia but it's wrong. The first territory to break off Serbia is Kosovo and it's hardly independent (even for the US it's a supervised independence and for countries like Serbia and Israel it's not any independence).

Thanks.

I have some Serbian-Yugoslavian roots....im kinda worried.
On one hand i want Serbia to be EU, but i dont want it to be in the cost of appeasing France and the superpowers.

But Israel question is even more than Serbia's since Serbia has alot more history and ours was muted for about 2000 years...

[Kappa21]

Hey guys,

Can someone please explain to me what they say on this website?

Im trying to find out if you take that bus, can you stop at Bratislava?
And if so, can you go from the same bus station - platform, a day or so after in the same time?

Basically its this..

Day 1 (prague) --- > Day 2 (Bratislava) ----> Day 5 (Budapest)

Thanks guys

[Norkey]

so.. we should continue with classical off topic.. films..

V. Marhoul's Tobruk, film about defenders of Tobruq.. premiere 9/08.. looks cool

[Kappa21]

Seems intresting.....

hmmmmmmmmm maybe ill check it out...
I like movies about war...
any subtitles for kind foreigners?

[Bobek_Azbest]

^ Authors' ambition is definitely international distribution, so yes, subtitles will surely be available.

[kokpit]

I'm afraid this film will be one big fiasco

[Norkey]

I agree that this film hadn't high ambitions at all, it cost 'only' 80 mil. czk.. however it surely can't be worse than Dark Blue World.. And music by Richard Horowitz (Brian Tyler (Dune) should be better though), scenario awarded with Heartley Merill Prize or some digital tricks etc. looks promising.

[kokpit]

Dark Blue World was one big tragedy, this will be only small tragedy

[pav197]

To bude blbost. Marhoulovi nevěřím. Podle mě to bude film plný válečného klišé. Ale mohu se mýlit.