[Hungary] Commie Blocks‎

[Qtya]

November 10th, 2007, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by RawLee

Here's a new one,from the city of Debrecen,I hope you (dis)like it!

[Qtya]

December 6th, 2007, 05:56 PM

4th of April, 2007...

Originally Posted by Qtya

A commie style building at Árpád-bridge in Budapest

31st of October, 2007...

Originally Posted by Qtya

Today...




Way too slow...

I have a better idea...

[Qtya]

December 27th, 2007, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Qtya

Reconstruction of commie-blocks based on the national budget is underway. In the past two years, several blocks were modernized lead by mainly the local governments of Kaposvár, Szeged, Debrecen and Székesfehérvár (government vs. opposition 2-2 ). Szekesfehérvár and Szeged won funds for renovation of 13000 and 8000 flats as part of a 2 year programme started on 2007.01.01. The "pioneer" of commie-block-reconstruction, Kaposvár isn't far behind, with its 5000 flats. But Kaposvár's programme encloses not only the modernization of the building itself, but its surroundings aswell.

Few photos from the city of Szeged:

The outcome of the programme is that every 6th or 7th commie block in Szeged is refurbished... It was so good to see them...

My mom made only few photos worth to post, when we were driving through Szeged on Monday...




The good news is, the programme for the reconstruction of commie-blocks based on the national budget is continuing next year, when there will be funds for the reconstruction of 50000 commie apartments...

News, only in Hungarian...

Ötvenezer panellakás újulhat meg jövőre

írta: mfor.hu szerk dátum: 2007. december 27. 16:29:00 hozzászólások (0)
A panelprogram folytatására jövőre tízmilliárd forintot biztosít a költségvetés, ami mintegy ötvenezer lakás felújítását teszi lehetővé - ismertette a kormány legutóbbi döntését Ujhelyi István, az Önkormányzati és Területfejlesztési Minisztérium (ÖTM) államtitkára csütörtökön.

Az államtitkár a program új elemi között említette az eddiginél szigorúbb minőségellenőrzést, a beépített anyagok és a kivitelezői munka minőségének kontrollját. A programnak köszönhetően 2001 óta 190 ezer panellakás felújítása történt meg 34,4 milliárd forint állami támogatással.

A panelprogramon kívül az államtitkár ismertette az Új Magyarország lakásfelújítási program további négy elemét is: a távfűtött lakások fűtési rendszerének és az egycsatornás gyűjtőkémények felújítására, a lakások energetikai korszerűsítésére, a megújuló energia felhasználásnak növelésére.

A program keretében a szigetelés, illetve nyílászáró-csere feltétele lesz a fűtésszabályozás, mérés megléte, vagy kialakítása, legalább épületenként - tett hozzá Ujhelyi István. A támogatható felújítások közé bekerülnek a megújuló energiaforrások is, míg a lakóépületek külső környezetének felújítására a továbbiakban a regionális operatív (ROP) programok pályázatai adnak lehetőséget.

A program új részeként a korábbinál hangsúlyosabb szerepet kap az épületek tűzvédelme, ezért a szellőzőrendszerek tisztítási költségeinek támogatására is lehet pályázni.

Változik a program finanszírozása is: a lakásonkénti 400 ezer forintos állami támogatás 500 ezer forintra emelkedik úgy, hogy az eddigi egyharmad rész helyett kétharmadot is fizethet a tulajdonos, azokban az esetekben, ha az önkormányzat forráshiányra hivatkozva nem tud részt venni a finanszírozásban.

Új elem az ökoprogram, amely egyedi szabályozási lehetőséggel nem rendelkező lakások fűtési rendszerének felújítását segíti panel és hagyományos szerkezetű lakásoknál egyaránt, költségosztók és mérők felszerelésével. Ebben az esetben az állami támogatás a költségek 35 százalékát teheti ki, legfeljebb lakásonként 54 ezer forintot. A lakástulajdonos 50 százalékos önrészét fél, például önkormányzat, vagy távhőszolgáltató vállalhatja, míg a fennmaradó 15 százalékot az önkormányzat, vagy más biztosíthatja. A program finanszírozására a minisztérium jövőre 1,5 milliárd forintot biztosít, ami 30 ezer lakás felújítását teszi lehetővé.

Az egycsatornás gyűjtőkémények felújítására 200 millió forint áll jövőre rendelkezésre, amivel 2.500 lakás kéményének felújítása végezhető el. Eddig a kormány 10.533 lakás kéményfelújítását támogatta 651 millió forint értékben.

A kormány komplex program kidolgozására, összehangolására kérte az önkormányzati és a gazdasági tárcát az 1994 előtt épült hagyományos szerkezetű családi házak és többlakásos épületek energiatakarékos felújítására. Ilyen felújítási támogatásra tehát azok a panellakás tulajdonosok is pályázhatnak önállóan is akár, ahol az egész lakóközösség eddig ezt nem kívánta, vagy valamiért nem sikerült. Tavaly a támogatás lakásonként 265 ezer forint volt, ezt január végéig felülvizsgálja a tárca. Eddig erre a célra a kormány 7,5 milliárdot fordított, amivel 310 ezer lakás felújítását támogatta.

A lakáscélú támogatási program új eleme közé sorolta az államtitkár, hogy a jövőben az állam átvállalja a megelőlegezett szocpol kamatait és egyéb költségeit a meddő pároknál, ha a gyemekvállalás egészségügyi okokból mégsem valósult meg. A mozgáskorlátozottaknak járó akadálymentesítési támogatást pedig jövőre az őket eltartók is megkaphatják, változatlan összegben - mondta Ujhelyi István.

(MTI)

[Qtya]

January 10th, 2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Qtya

[Qtya]

January 11th, 2008, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by tersyxus

Joseph's Town, Budapest. 2007.

Faculty of Information Technology of Pazmany Peter Catholic University is located in front of these monsters.

[Qtya]

January 16th, 2008, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Sieg

Hi everyone!

I've been lurking here for awhile and I saw that there were only some very few people from 'rural' Hungarian cities to post pictures from either the old or the renovated commieblocks. I live in Székesfehérvár (king of Hungarian commieblock renovation) so I went and took some pictures in the biggest commieblock district of the city, the Palotaváros. I used to live here and it was nice to see how much development has taken place since I moved away.

BTW it's my very first post on the SSC forums and I'm not really familiar with posting pictures... I uploaded them to Imageshack and copy-pasted the links here, I hope it works.

Huge commies...

A real monster-commie, partially renovated. Finishing of this building is due to completion by this April.

Another monster of the same kind. We fortunately have only 3 of these in the city.

Renovated blocks in all color and shape


[img]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4289/p1120575ts1.jpg[/img
This street with these 4-storey commies is one of my favorites!


Looking back...

I think this one is particularly good, competes with many newly build projects!

Note that (supposedly) Russian car in the foreground!

This is where I came from

Renovations seem to be more scarce as we approach the newest commieblocks of the city. These buildings are not more than 18-20 years old.

It was the most horrible I could catch The extremely large building is the middle is the 3rd of the 3 monster commies I mentioned

Small, IMO pretty nice commie

And finally, Beszédes József square. This is where I used to live (and also where my camera drained its batteries)

[Qtya]

January 16th, 2008, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Sieg

As I'm done with my exams I will have time to meticulously take pictures of every commieblock neighborhood, if that's the popular demand However, for now I made a map and wrote a small description of every commieblock area. I try to 'illustrate' with photos as many of these areas as possible.



1: Palotaváros – well, you have already seen this one. It is the largest and newest commieblock area in Székesfehérvár, the last blocks were built in the very last days of communism. Renovations are average, but I think this are will get the least of it, because many buildings are almost new and fewer people want to invest in a renovation. We have adequate information about the next blocks to be renovated (it was published on the city’s homepage) and unfortunately only a few further blocks will be renovated in this area. The area is situated close to the city centre, has a local police department (the people I know there say it’s a very safe neighborhood) and probably the shortest busline in the world – line 29 with Mercedes Cito minibuses, running every 20 minutes at peak time, but almost always empty. The line is so short that a full round (to and fro) takes only 15 minutes.


2: Tóváros – it was the first area of the city where commieblock renovations began. I have seen some blocks on the new renovations list that were located here, but I have no idea why because as well as I saw every single house was renovated even back in late 2006. We can consider this area 100% renovated. It’s also pretty nice, but less popular than the Palotaváros because it’s farther away from the center. Also, there are a few block in the north – by the Szécheny road – that are considered „the worst neighborhood in town”: I agree with that but compared to other Eastern European „bad neighborhoods” it’s nothing.

3: Lövölde út – maybe 8-10 scattered, various blocks, together with newly built houses. Pretty decent area, however the few blocks mean few renovations.

4: József Attila utca-Budai út-Király sor: large area with many commieblocks, together with other buildings. Renovations have been massive here: on the Király sor it’s 100%, Budai út is nearing it, and as well as I saw in the plans every single block will be renovated by the end of this year. Really nice, well developed area that – in spite of the different architecture – often approaches Western European standards.

5: Ősz utca. 20 commieblocks, 8 tower-like and 12 ’normal’ 10-storey commieblocks. So far 2 tower-like and 6 ’normal’ blocks have been renovated, we expect the renovation of further 4 tower-like and 3 normal blocks by the end of this year. Another 2 normal blocks already have the money from the 2006 renovation tenders, but the works can only begin in 2009. Already scheduled or completed renovations reach 90%. Pretty decent neighborhood, recently renovated roads, good infrastructure, close to the center. However it seems very soviet-style, monumental.

6: Királykút: only 4 or 5 blocks, but I hate this area. The non-renovated-blocks (about 50%) are ugly, and the surroundings are maybe the worst in the city. It’s small however, and more renovations are on the way. I still don’t know if we can expect a 100% renovation in the close future.

7: Ligetsor: very nice area only with 4-storey commieblocks, 100% renovated, by a lake and an u/c 4 star hotel which will include a running park along the lake. I will soon post pictures about Ligetsor.

8: Szedreskert: the exact copy of Ligetsor. Full renovations are scheduled for this year. I’ve never really been there (too far away from everywhere I had to go), but I guess it must be nice.

9: Fecskepart. Another area I don’t like. It’s very far away from everything and these commieblocks were/are the very worst in the city. I was there this November (visited a nearby cemetery) and really many changes took place here, at least 60-70% of blocks have been renovated. The ones that remain are still very ugly, and 2 of them are along the main road so everybody sees them entering the city. Unfortunately, according to the plans we can’t expect too many new projects here.

10: Seregélyesi út: I think only 2 commieblocks are situated here, 5 or 6 storeys each. Both will be renovated this summer.

11: Köfém (Light Metal Foundry) lakótelep: quite nice neighborhood, close to the best neighborhoods in town, Öreghegy and Ráchegy. It consists of 4 storey blocks only, except for 3 large, tower-like buildings by the Budai út. I like it, it’s a very decent area, and every single building has been renovated this summer.

I’m sure the list is not full, because Fehérvár – like every Eastern European city – is riddled with commieblocks. However, most of them are absolutely not bad, surroundings are mostly decent and I think about 60% of all blocks have already been renovated, at least a third of it in 2007, with a similar amount scheduled for 2008. So if we go on like that, it’s absolutely not impossible that, as the mayor said, by 2010 every single commieblock in Székesfehérvár will be renovated.

[Qtya]

January 21st, 2008, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Qtya

Commies of the VIIIth district... Behind the Corvin Promenade...

[Qtya]

February 5th, 2008, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sieg

Hi everyone!
One shiny day I thought it was time to get my camera, hop on a bus and take pictures of more commies in my city. This time I took another extensive commieblock area, close to the city center. Because of the extremely clear sky and bright, but low angle sunlight the pictures turned out to have really eerie colors and contrasts

I started on the Királysor (King's Lane), which is one of my favorite area with its 4-storey, fully renovated commies and nice surroundings.








On the corner of Budai út, one of the main roads of the city.

This one has a funny, but somehow likeable color...

Shiny new

While the commieblocks are on one side of Budai út, the other side is a park-like area with old buildings like this. As far as I saw, all of them serve purposes of education. This is also the site of the Székesfehérvár Science Center for Mechatronics, which only has its core now, but on the coming years it's one of the biggest developments in the city.




Looking back...

...and forward, in the direction of the center.

Small commie on Lövölde út, with one of the few new residentials of Székesfehérvár in the background.

Quite original commieblock. Actually I like its color.... The crane-car is repairing the damages of last day's brutal storm.

Renovated blocks of Gáz street.




This is one of my favorite commie-style squares in town, with the memorial monument of the victims of the Soviet invasion in '56.

I have no idea if it's just a modified commie or not.

The large, depressingly gray blocks of József Attila street. Renovations are scheduled for this spring.

They were already installing the scaffolding.

Commieblock area sidestreets and the entrance of a block.





Filling in the gap: the last grey commie on this side of the street.

Sneak peek behind a commieblock. The funny building in the background is the infamous Skála.

Yellow city...

I wonder if this is gonna be yellow too...

This is the Ősz utca commieblock area, probably the most monumental in town, with very closely built, very big blocks. It has 20 buildings and I have quite many nice memories about this place as my grandparents used to live here.

Street-view of the neighborhood.

Looking back towards the Technika Háza (House of Technology)

Though this area is supposed to be under heavy renovation now, this was the only scaffold I could find.

This large park separates the Ősz utca area from the historic city center.

Looking back from the central Várkörút, we can see that in this area there is still a lot of renovation work to do...


Many of these blocks will be renovated in the coming months, f.e. almost all of the Ősz utca area. All the already contracted works are supposed to be finished by end of August. I wonder what colors they will choose... I hope not everything will be yellow, it's a nice color I agree but it's really becoming boring. I saw really nice brownish-reddish commieblocks, and a variation of colors on a single building could be interesting too, some variation in the monotonous single-color renovated blocks.
When we have the results, some time in autumn, maybe I return with a special before-after post about these blocks...

February 5th, 2008, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Sieg

Oh, and I forgot the most important: the map of where I went. So, here you go:

[Qtya]

March 21st, 2008, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by RKC

Budapest

[Qtya]

March 25th, 2008, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Kontúr

Commies from Pécs, Hungary's 5th largest city (population cca. 175 000)









some older and newer commies



and finally, some commies that don't look typical commies, but these beauties were built with the same technology in the late 70's.
I like them and wish all of them were like these

[Qtya]

March 29th, 2008, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Sieg

I was in Tapolca a few days back and took pictures of the unique and famous Y-shaped commies of this otherwise very cute small town. Of course only the first one is my own.







Quite special, isn't it?

[Qtya]

April 4th, 2008, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Qtya

Doubtful/unclear future

[Qtya]

April 4th, 2008, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Sieg

The Pécs highrise is totally infamous, I'm very surprised that it was never on SSC (if it wasn't...). I've been there in the summer, it was unbelievably terrible but still stunning in a way. It made it even funnier that apart from this I haven't seen a single non-renovated commieblock in Pécs.

[Qtya]

April 5th, 2008, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sieg

The Pécs highrise is totally infamous, I'm very surprised that it was never on SSC (if it wasn't...). I've been there in the summer, it was unbelievably terrible but still stunning in a way. It made it even funnier that apart from this I haven't seen a single non-renovated commieblock in Pécs.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=141

Check out the link...

More pics of this monster...

[Qtya]

April 5th, 2008, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Qtya

A nicely renovated commie on Bartók Béla road...

[Qtya]

April 24th, 2008, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Qtya

Fejér Lipót street 62... XIth district of Budapest...

[Qtya]

April 24th, 2008, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Qtya

63...




I wonder how this commie would look after refurbishment...

[Qtya]

Ok... Now these should be all... I mean all I considered as important...

[BND]

Thx for the great summary, Qtya!