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Old November 18th, 2015, 06:43 AM   #341
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Speculation that Stansted has been sold to the Chinese and an anouncement is expected on friday with David Cameron present.

(link posted in the Manchester Airport thread earlier, Manchester Airports Group own Stansted)

http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...nchester-link/



The current majority owner, a consortium of local authorities in Manchester, probably need the cash.
Does that mean we may see a Chinese carrier at STN?
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Old November 24th, 2015, 05:12 AM   #342
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London Heathrow airport in the early 1970s



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Old November 24th, 2015, 11:14 AM   #343
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When will Gatwick get the second runway? 2020? It would be a solution to build one or two runways at Gatwick since LHR has no room to expand.
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Old November 24th, 2015, 02:14 PM   #344
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When will Gatwick get the second runway? 2020? It would be a solution to build one or two runways at Gatwick since LHR has no room to expand.
Both airports are facing the same problem. Nimbys.

Gatwick is no more likely than Heathrow. And although Heathrow might need to demolish some houses for a 3rd runway, there is still a strong business case for it. It's really not those houses stopping the development, but rather people concerned about noise in the neighbouring areas.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 11:48 AM   #345
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Heathrow Airport has released some new images of the proposed developments around the Central Terminal Area, the new third runway, and improvements to the M25. No mention of upgrading the M4 Spur junction from the M4 with free flowing links, which seems an oversight.

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Old December 11th, 2015, 03:18 AM   #346
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Heathrow Runway 3 is canned.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35062739

Once the Brits mention a 'Review' thats it. In Official Britspeak it simply means they are not going to build the infrastructure. Probably too expensive in fairness.

Gatwick will be delighted
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Old December 12th, 2015, 04:34 AM   #347
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As said on the UK Forum, the more pragmatic and economic solution to London's airport capacity shortage is to allow Gatwick to expand, to build at least one more new airport. Gatwick and Heathrow should also be connected by dedicated high speed lines which allow passengers and their luggage to be very quickly transferred for free, ideally without the passengers having to leave the customs area. This way the airports function effectively as a single hub. It is far far cheaper to build a connecting dedicated rail line than to build a new airport, and ensures the billions of recent investment by the public and private sector is not prematurely wasted. There will also be more air slots at more economic prices which ultimately should lower costs for air travellers. Other cities may need to consider similar arrangements in the future.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 09:36 AM   #348
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Can I have British Airways deals? I'd like to book that airline to London from Los Angeles and make an open-jaw itinerary to Philadelphia. LAX - LHR - PHL

Please give me the website where the deals come from and thank you so much!
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 10:00 PM   #349
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With the 3rd runway "delayed" again, are they still going through with the redevelopment of terminals 1 and 3?
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Old December 24th, 2015, 05:36 PM   #350
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Old December 29th, 2015, 09:58 AM   #351
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Heathrow Runway 3 is canned.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35062739

Once the Brits mention a 'Review' thats it. In Official Britspeak it simply means they are not going to build the infrastructure. Probably too expensive in fairness.
Yeah, I also want to mention that Heathrow's Runway 3 (and Terminal 6) will involve the demolition of Waterside (the headquarters of British Airways), which will leave British Airways needing a brand-new world headquarters on a different site. Waterside is such a nice building, too, so too bad it was potentially going to be replaced just over two decades after its opening.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 09:55 PM   #352
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This is a little video tour through all five Star Alliance Business Class Lounges
at London Heathrow Terminal 2.
Because I focused on taping a comprehensive video, I didn't take too many photos.

Here is my rating:
First place - Air Canada Maple Leaf Lounge
Second place - United Club
Third place - Lufthansa Senator Lounge
Fourth place - Lufthansa Business Lounge
Fifth place - Singapore Airlines SilverKris Lounge

The video belows explains my detailed rating.

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1. Air Canada Maple Leaf Lounge in T2B:











2. United Club in T2B:













3. Lufthansa Senator Lounge in T2A:









4. Lufthansa Business Lounge in T2A:







5. Singapore Airlines SilverKris Lounge in T2B:









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Here is the direct link to the video in case it doesn't load.

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Old February 23rd, 2016, 08:52 PM   #353
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Great view of all the lounges ... must say United's lounge looks really nice
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Old February 24th, 2016, 01:03 PM   #354
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Qantas have announced they will develop a new premium lounge at London’s Heathrow Airport. The lounge is planned to open in the first quarter of 2017.
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Old September 19th, 2016, 12:02 PM   #355
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Londons Mayor tells Bloomberg he wants to get on with Gatwick. Sharpish. That Heathow 'review' should be complete any day now.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...gatwick-runway
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Old October 25th, 2016, 01:16 PM   #356
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UK Government finally decides on Heathrow Runway 3 instead of Gatwick Runway 2

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...nment-bbc-says

To be honest I think both are required and it would be much quicker to get Gatwick #2 built, possibly as early as 2022.

That article says that parliament will vote on the decision in about a years time and as the Scots Nats are in favour ( Sctland has good connections to LHR, not like the North of England does) the Scots Nats will compensate for any Tories who prove unreliable on the issue, and many will prove unreliable right up to Boris the foreign secretary himself.

Having thus voted to process in a years time the matter goes to 'public enquiry'. This is a a peculiar British habit where every nutcase in England comes along to object. The 'public enquiry' for Heathrow Terminal 5 around 20 years ago listened to nutters for around 500 days so I give them 700 days for this project, spread over 4 years or so.

Then the 'inspector'has to think for a year before reporting.

That means they may have finally decided to actually proceed in 6 years time and construction of Runway 3 can finally commence some time in late 2023 and get going properly in 2025 with an opening expected in late 2027.

This, if all goes well.
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Old October 25th, 2016, 08:20 PM   #357
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For the cost of building a new runway at Heathrow, you could add a second runway to both Gatwick and Stansted and probably also build a direct rail connection between Heathrow and Gatwick.

It's going to cost at least £3 billion just to acquire the needed land for the third Heathrow runway, not to mention the cost of actually building it along with at least one new terminal (probably another £7-10 billion considering T5 cost over £4 billion).

I'd propose to build a second runway (yes, I know there is a second but it can't be used) at Gatwick and move all flights to and from Europe and North Africa to Gatwick (you could leave some flights to cities such as Paris at Heathrow).

I'd then build a direct rail connection between Gatwick and Heathrow elevated mostly along the M25. It could be an automated metro similar to Vancouver's SkyTrain (which can handle up to 15,000 pphpd) to facilitate transfers. You could even use this rail connection to move baggage creating seamless transfers for passengers.

I'd then build a second runway at Stansted and move all charter and leisure flights there. This would include most of easyjet flights as well as Thomson and Thomas Cook's flights.

I'd move all of Gatwick's long-haul flights to Heathrow.
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Old October 25th, 2016, 09:05 PM   #358
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For the cost of building a new runway at Heathrow, you could add a second runway to both Gatwick and Stansted and probably also build a direct rail connection between Heathrow and Gatwick.

It's going to cost at least £3 billion just to acquire the needed land for the third Heathrow runway, not to mention the cost of actually building it along with at least one new terminal (probably another £7-10 billion considering T5 cost over £4 billion).

I'd propose to build a second runway (yes, I know there is a second but it can't be used) at Gatwick and move all flights to and from Europe and North Africa to Gatwick (you could leave some flights to cities such as Paris at Heathrow).

I'd then build a direct rail connection between Gatwick and Heathrow elevated mostly along the M25. It could be an automated metro similar to Vancouver's SkyTrain (which can handle up to 15,000 pphpd) to facilitate transfers. You could even use this rail connection to move baggage creating seamless transfers for passengers.

I'd then build a second runway at Stansted and move all charter and leisure flights there. This would include most of easyjet flights as well as Thomson and Thomas Cook's flights.

I'd move all of Gatwick's long-haul flights to Heathrow.
Even if land weren't a cost (which it still is, even if its near a motorway), A 37 mile fully automated direct rail connection between Heathrow and Gatwick would easily cover the £3bil to acquire land for the 3rd runway at Heathrow.
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Even if land weren't a cost (which it still is, even if its near a motorway), A 37 mile fully automated direct rail connection between Heathrow and Gatwick would easily cover the £3bil to acquire land for the 3rd runway at Heathrow.
Sure, but then you'd have interconnected airports giving you vastly more flexibility to shift capacity around. Plus the cost of one runway at Heathrow could probably pay for one at Gatwick and one at Stansted.
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Old October 26th, 2016, 01:44 AM   #360
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There is a spare runway lying unused out in Manston and all...2800m of it.

But I think LHR R3 will not be delivered before 2027 and R2 in Gatwick could be a useful safety valve by 2022.

Stansted is all narrows, it will max out its single Runway at 30m pax where Gatwick can handle 40m as it has more wides in the mix.

At the rate that Gatwick and Stansted grew in the past 2 years one of them needs a second runway fast, thats for sure. Gatwick is easiest.

And then build LHR R3 too, otherwise Schiphol will pass out LHR by as early as 2022, never mind 2027. Schiphol only has 6 runways after all.
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