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View Poll Results: Favorite Skyline of Highrises?
Barcelona (Spain) 22 2.95%
Mardrid (Spain) 37 4.96%
Paris (France) 143 19.17%
London (England) 71 9.52%
Birmingham (England) 8 1.07%
Liverpool (England) 53 7.10%
Amsterdam (Netherlands) 15 2.01%
Wien (Austria) 3 0.40%
Frankfurt am Main (Germany) 241 32.31%
Essen (Germany) 2 0.27%
Cologne (Germany) 2 0.27%
Berlin (Germany) 8 1.07%
Warsaw (Poland) 141 18.90%
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Old May 15th, 2008, 08:17 PM   #141
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How come you haven't included Rotterdam? It's one of the best in EU. BTW Frankfurt for me .
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Old May 15th, 2008, 08:58 PM   #142
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Here's my two cents as a native Liverpudlian - I'd never consider Liverpool's skyline as one of Europe's very best and biased votes are obviously unacceptable, but it's still bloody imperssive as far as I'm concerned and I resent attempts to dismiss it simply because Liverpool isn't as important as Paris or Frankfurt. I certainly don't see how the skylines of Manchester and Birmingham are "significantly better".

Out of the selection, Paris is probably my favourite closely followed by Madrid. I don't see what the big deal about Warsaw is.
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I am not biased at all in terms of European skylines but I really like where Liverpool's skyline is going.

I also love the Mersey river. No question that Paris is the best with Madrid coming in at 2nd.

London and Berlin's skyline could be much better so can Milan's. I am of German descent and frankly I am not impressed by Frankfurt's skyline. It looks like Atlanta to me. I do like Rotterdam's though.
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Madrid I don't see much of a skyline there...
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #145
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1. Frankfurt
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3. Paris
4. Rotterdam
5. London
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How come you haven't included Rotterdam? It's one of the best in EU. BTW Frankfurt for me .
He forgot Rotterdam I voted Frankfurt 2.
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The two talls to the left are to be built soon at Liverpool.

liverpool is getting shanghai's jin mao tower?
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Yeah, I know La Defence is more organic, and a wider cluster, but it lacks height, and the buildings atm don't seem to be of a very good quality. I don't like the arch thing either, it seems a bit gimmicky.

That said, Ive seen a few of the projects in the La Defense pipe line, including re clads and new towers and some of them look fantastic! It should be a truly great skyline with time.
Ultimately I suppose it's all pretty subjective but, for me, the idea that anything in London can touch the beautiful composition of talls of La Defense is fanciful.

Also, I'm not much bothered by the height issue in architecture myself, but as you probably know, if the already approved and due on-site Tour Generali for the Italian insurance company of the same name has managed to break the credit crunch, it will become Europe's tallest tower. Very nice it is too- should be quite spectacular.


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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:48 PM   #149
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liverpool is getting shanghai's jin mao tower?
Called ....the Shanghai Tower in Liverpool.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:49 PM   #150
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liverpool is getting shanghai's jin mao tower?


No, I think Bay's being a bit presumptuous that the proposed 65 floor Shanghai Tower for the West Waterloo Dock actually gets:

a.) the neccessary financial backing.
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b.) the go-ahead from the planners.

There's another tall in that pic which has yet to pass planning, whilst 3 approved projects including one tall appear to have disappeared with the current banking chaos.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:52 PM   #151
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Called ....the Shanghai Tower in Liverpool.
John, we haven't even had any designs for this thing, c'mon.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:55 PM   #152
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Yeah, I know La Defence is more organic, and a wider cluster, but it lacks height, and the buildings atm don't seem to be of a very good quality.
To me it's only the One Canada Square tower that makes Canary Wharf interesting. Mostly because of the "spire" (what't the name for it in english?)

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I don't like the arch thing either, it seems a bit gimmicky.
Hey...the La Grande Arche was designed by a dane......ok, I get you point
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I am not biased at all in terms of European skylines but I really like where Liverpool's skyline is going.
The thing about Liverpool is where it is going.....and quick too. Also the varied styles of buildings in the skyline, from a massive Gothic cathedral to nice modern slim talls. Many of the building on the waterfront are surrounded by water being in dock water spaces, like the one below. They are so fussy they turned this 51 floor beauty down a few years back (they are mad!). Designed by a semi-finalist in the World Trade Centre competition. If they accepted it, it would have been built by now.

[IMG]http://********************************/BrunswickQuays-3.jpg[/IMG]

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No, I think Bay's being a bit presumptuous that the proposed 65 floor Shanghai Tower for the West Waterloo Dock actually gets:

a.) the neccessary financial backing.
and
b.) the go-ahead from the planners.

There's another tall in that pic which has yet to pass planning, whilst 3 approved projects including one tall appear to have disappeared with the current banking chaos.


pheeewww! this bay guy wanted to fool us



seriously though - I should have voted for frankfurt

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No, I think Bay's being a bit presumptuous that the proposed 65 floor Shanghai Tower for the West Waterloo Dock actually gets:

a.) the neccessary financial backing.
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b.) the go-ahead from the planners.

There's another tall in that pic which has yet to pass planning, whilst 3 approved projects including one tall appear to have disappeared with the current banking chaos.
All indicators look good. Down to three final designs. It will be the second tallest building in the UK. Actually it is in the centre of Princes Half-Tide Dock on an island,

They have not disappeared, just no press releases. The planners tend to p1ss developers off in Liverpool. They make them jump through hoops.

Peel the developers with the Chinese, are waiting for the result of the adjacent tall King Edward Tower. Peel objected as they are planning a tall within metres. The change in land elevation will mean the Shanghai Tower will look smaller as it be built in a dock, with King Edward Tower visually looking taller, up the hill. They will want the Shanghai looking much taller than those around it.

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John, we haven't even had any designs for this thing, c'mon.
Three are short listed. They will not leak out to the press and want it announced with a fanfare.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:18 AM   #157
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To me it's only the One Canada Square tower that makes Canary Wharf interesting. Mostly because of the "spire" (what't the name for it in english?)


Hey...the La Grande Arche was designed by a dane......ok, I get you point
La Grande Arche is, perhaps, my favourite post-war large building.

It's a wonderful piece.

It lies directly on the straight-line Notre Dame-Louvre-Champs Elysees-Arc De Triomphe axis, however I always wondered why it was built on an angle to it? Seems a really odd decision. It's great though nontheless.

We have, what I hope is going to be a minor classic of Danish design in 3XN's new Museum Of Liverpool now in construction- another beautiful piece of architecture.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:21 AM   #158
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And what might be the matter with you ?..only got 3 votes....grow up.


(Thats 5 votes between you and Birmingham..tell yer what eh...go and start a poll between yourselves..you will both actually get close then.)
So you assume that I'd vote for Amsterdam, and even identify myself with it just because I'm Dutch? Let me tell you a little secret: I didn't get 3 votes, for the very simple reason that I don't live in Amsterdam, I don't care about Amsterdam, I didn't vote for it and I don't care how many votes it gets. In fact, I find it to be an overrated city, and imo. it doesn't even belong in the poll list. Shocking, huh
If you'd properly read this topic, you'd have read that Frankfurt and Paris La Defense are my favorite skylines, with London and Warsaw as runner-ups.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:23 AM   #159
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seriously though - I should have voted for frankfurt

Frankfurt...I don't know.

In one sense it looks quite impressive, on the other hand I just think it looks like a big, heavy, artless lump of of tall buildings- too much 'BAM!!' and not enough finesse, not enough rythmn, not enough variations, not enough contrasts and not enough creative use of empty space.
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i hope you don't think that's Frankfurt in that photo!
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