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Old April 4th, 2009, 11:55 PM   #61
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The tunnel with the roundabout isn't the same tunnel as the 11,9 km long one. The one with the roundabout is the one that will be built first, and the world's longest private car tunnel won't be built before at least around 2020.

And the longest one won't have two tubes, it will be one tube to another island, and they will then expand it after a few years to another island, which will then make it 25 km long. So they will use the first island as a platform for the expansion.

And no! Denmark won't pay for it, this is entirely paid with Faroese money. The money that Denmark gives us is for the hospitals and some other things, and only amounts to 615 million Danish kroner, while the Faroese GDP is 12 billion Danish kroner, so the money from Denmark is only 5% of the Faroese GDP. And the 615 million Danish kroner is peanuts compared to the Danish GDP, which amounts to about 1,7 trillion Danish kroner.

And they are doing this because the ferries are impractical and everyone is moving to the capital, because of the inconvenient transportation, which will then leave an elderly population on the other islands. And they aren't able to expand Tórshavn with the rate that the people are moving there, and they want to develop the entire country and not only the center.

If you have any questions about it, then you can post here, and I will answer (I'm native Faroese, hehe :p)...
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Old April 5th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #62
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The tunnel with the roundabout isn't the same tunnel as the 11,9 km long one. The one with the roundabout is the one that will be built first, and the world's longest private car tunnel won't be built before at least around 2020.

And the longest one won't have two tubes, it will be one tube to another island, and they will then expand it after a few years to another island, which will then make it 25 km long. So they will use the first island as a platform for the expansion.

And no! Denmark won't pay for it, this is entirely paid with Faroese money. The money that Denmark gives us is for the hospitals and some other things, and only amounts to 615 million Danish kroner, while the Faroese GDP is 12 billion Danish kroner, so the money from Denmark is only 5% of the Faroese GDP. And the 615 million Danish kroner is peanuts compared to the Danish GDP, which amounts to about 1,7 trillion Danish kroner.

And they are doing this because the ferries are impractical and everyone is moving to the capital, because of the inconvenient transportation, which will then leave an elderly population on the other islands. And they aren't able to expand Tórshavn with the rate that the people are moving there, and they want to develop the entire country and not only the center.

If you have any questions about it, then you can post here, and I will answer (I'm native Faroese, hehe :p)...
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Thanks for the info! Is there any other road projects that we should know about?
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Old April 5th, 2009, 02:18 AM   #63
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Hehe

No, there aren't any other large road projects going on at the moment.

I forgot to write in the last post, that the fee that people pay to travel through the tunnels is 170 kr for each trip, unless you either work or go to school on the either side of the tunnel, then you get it a bit cheaper. It is used for maintenance and the money that isn't used for maintenance goes to pay a bit of the price of the tunnel back.
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Old April 5th, 2009, 09:43 AM   #64
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170 Kr? That is €22,80! Quite much for a single crossing. How much is it for daily users?
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Old April 12th, 2009, 01:45 AM   #65
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170 Kr? That is €22,80! Quite much for a single crossing. How much is it for daily users?
I just found out that prices have been reduced because of a growing number of commuters, and a profit from that. Now you also only pay the full price one-way, and not for each crossing.

The current price is:
For single trip - 130 Kr/each trip (65 Kr each way)
A 40-trip subscription - 2600 Kr for the subscription or 65 Kr/each trip (32,50 Kr each way)

Both the underwater tunnels are almost paid back, just by its commuters. The first one (Vágatunnilin) was built with the idea that 370 cars would drive through each day, but the current number is 1.575 cars/day. And traffic in the second one (Norđuroyartunnilin) is 1.814 cars/day.

Both the tunnels have a huge profit lying around, that will be used for maintenance and paying back their cost. Vágatunnilin currently has 163,5 million Kr and Norđuroyartunnilin has 187 million Kr.

It's because of their success that the Faroese government has decided to build more tunnels.

What most people think is that the money will be gone after they are built, but they (the government) use years to plan and save money for the projects. And they will be paid back, but that takes a few years. So if it costs 30% of the yearly GDP then they will most likely wait around 5 years before building it, and they take around 1 year to built, which again gives more money for it.

And no, they don't prioritize them in front of other things, like healthcare, because they use the country's profits for the tunnels.
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Old April 14th, 2009, 12:04 PM   #66
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For these long underwater tunnels, aren't 2 parallel tubes required for fire-safety by EU-tunnel-regulations? Or is the arm covering this demand? This has been a topic for long low-trafic tunnels in Norway, like Ryfast and Rogfast, altough these one are also planned with arms in the middle.

Btw. We have a few tunnel-roundabouts like that one in Norway...
I list: 3 in tromsř, 1 in Drammen and 1 in Sandvika and 1 in Trondheim More are under construction for example 2 in Hardangerbrua, 1 in T-Forbindelsen, and more are planned
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Old April 14th, 2009, 03:15 PM   #67
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2 tubes are nonsense in tunnels with less than 10.000 AADT. A waste of money. You can build two tunnels for that cost.
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Old April 14th, 2009, 10:16 PM   #68
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I think the EU regulations call for a second tube for AADT> 8000 for a 10 km or longer tunnel. At least in Norway, the AADT limit for the second tube is a linear function of tunnel length down to 2.5 km, where the AADT limit is 12000. Note that the second tube is for emergency purposes, i.e. it does not have to be full profile / dual lane. However, in practice, building the second tube in full profile is not much more expensive than building it as a single lane tunnel. A lot of the cost of building tunnels is surveying the rock quality, planning, and not at least getting the equipment and logistics in place, hence it usually pays off building the tunnel a little above capacity rather than having to repeat the exersize in a few years. In addition, many submarine tunnels tend to be quite steep, and often need passing opportunities even if the AADT is quite low.
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Old April 15th, 2009, 01:21 AM   #69
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Yes it's a waste of money to build two tunnels, since the traffic is very low. But there are fire extinguishers, fire "bunkers" and emergency phones in the tunnels, so I think it is safe to drive there. And EU regulations don't count there since the Faroe Islands aren't in the EU (even if Denmark is). :P

The roundabout is because they plan to continue (expand the tunnel) from the roundabout in that tunnel to other areas on the islands.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 09:39 PM   #70
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the signs are very cool
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Old October 5th, 2009, 10:51 PM   #71
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As an Icelander, I am always amazed by the tunneling frenzy of our neighbours and brothers in the Faroe Islands. While they have a total of 42.618 meters of tunnels, we have only 26.918 meters in Iceland (with six times the population). However, three new tunnels will open in Iceland in 2010 with a total length of 15.716 meters. What also amazes me is how early the Faroese started the tunneling compared to Iceland. Of the 27 km of currently open tunnels in Iceland, only 1.470 meters existed before 1992.

While perhaps a bit jealous towards the Faroese, I totally get why they need to do this. It is simply a question of survival for the smaller communities to have fixed road links to Torshavn and other larger towns. Otherwise, everyone would end up on the same island eventually.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 05:27 AM   #72
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I saw two gas (petrol) stations on the pictures.... eg. Statoil and Shell

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Old April 13th, 2010, 02:49 PM   #73
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I don't know if these are already posted, but here's a couple of pics from tha internetz:
The Tunnel Between Kaldbak and Kollafjřrđur:
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Leynatunnilin:
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and here's a road map

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Skipanes to Syđrugřta road on Eysturoy island


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Vatnsoyrar, Vagar island


Torshavn, Streymoy island

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Kirkjubřarvergur road between Tórshavn and Velbastađ


Syđradalur to Velbastađur road


Mjřrkadalur road

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Frammi í Dal, seatunnel to Vagar


Vagar, seatunnel to Streymoy tollsign


Vagar, Gadalasur Tunnel


Vagar

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Roundabout in Miđvágur, Vágar


Vágatunnilin, Vágar


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Leynatunnilin, Streymoy


Effo Gas Station in Kollfjarđardali


Kaldbaksvegur, near Kollafjřrđur, Vágarnar to the left, Eysturoy and Klaksvík to the right, Streymoy


Kaldbaksvegur, Road 50, Near Kollafjřrđur, Streymoy

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This place looks beautiful.
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