daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > European Forums > Hrvatski Forum > Economy and development > Gospodarstvo, infrastruktura i razvoj

Gospodarstvo, infrastruktura i razvoj Economy, Transportation, Energy, and Commerce



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 166 votes, 4.98 average.
Old August 9th, 2010, 02:55 AM   #1601
Delmat
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Split, Dalmatia, Croatia
Posts: 7,316
Likes (Received): 8

Gripen mi je drag ali eurofighter je jači.
Najbolje bi bilo uzet i jedne i druge.

p.s. o koliko komada aviJona govorimo?
Delmat no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
 
Old August 9th, 2010, 03:04 AM   #1602
mic of Orion
I come in peace \V/
 
mic of Orion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London
Posts: 11,021
Likes (Received): 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delmat View Post
Gripen mi je drag ali eurofighter je jači.
Najbolje bi bilo uzet i jedne i druge.

p.s. o koliko komada aviJona govorimo?
12, ali moguce je u 10 godina dobit jos 12+6, hrvatska treba 30. 2 squadrons.
__________________

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin


"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Religion leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to bigotry, bigotry leads to suffering!!!" Mic of Orion
mic of Orion no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 9th, 2010, 04:58 AM   #1603
RAVE01
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 203
Likes (Received): 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ballota View Post
Budimo realni, šta će njima vojska? Ako i dođe do nekog svijetskog sukoba il će ih branit NATO, ili će ih Njemačka opet pripojit, pa će imat njihovu armiju.

Anschluss!!!!
RAVE01 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 9th, 2010, 03:29 PM   #1604
Delmat
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Split, Dalmatia, Croatia
Posts: 7,316
Likes (Received): 8





vs.


Delmat no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 10th, 2010, 07:43 PM   #1605
mic of Orion
I come in peace \V/
 
mic of Orion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London
Posts: 11,021
Likes (Received): 7

A thought, if croatia is about to go eurofighters, perhaps a deal can be made with Germans for 52 leopard 2A4, Croatia needs NATO standard tank quite soon, and if offset is agreed, perhaps 52 leopards could be part of 140% offset deal, its a hard bargain, but recession is on .

If Croatia goes for leopard 2, than modernization of m84A4 would no longer be necessary (savings in region of 210 million euros), instead leopard a4's could be upgraded to a A6 standard or even A7 sometimes after 2015.

84M84 tanks could be transfered to a merchandised reserve brigade in Sisak. Also Croatia could get some Marder 2 IFV's as an interim solution for lack-of adequate IFV and 128 M80A1 instead of upgrade moved to reserve status along with the M84A4 tanks.

Germany would offload Marder 2 and Leo 2 vehicles for next to nothing, all inked in to a offseat deal.

This would free large portion of budget from upgrades and concentrate on what is needed, new APCs, new light APC's, new artillery system, new naval units and warships as well as new fighters and helicopters. my two cents,
__________________

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin


"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Religion leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to bigotry, bigotry leads to suffering!!!" Mic of Orion

Last edited by mic of Orion; August 11th, 2010 at 04:13 AM.
mic of Orion no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2010, 10:59 AM   #1606
Totoro
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 203
Likes (Received): 4

Čitam ja Mica već evo par godina i nije ovo prvi put da piše ovakvo što al opet ne mogu vjerovati što moje oči vide. Mic, ti zaista, ZAISTA vjeruješ u to kada napišeš da hrvatska treba 30 eurofightera? U trenutku kada hrvatski vojni budžet za ukupnu nabavku nove opreme troši možda 60ak milijuna eura godišnje, gdje nema novaca za bilo kakve vanbudžetne stavke, a kamoli one od nekoliko milijardi eura - da ja pročitam nešto takvo?

Ajde da je to samo neko tvoje maštanje, no nekako imam osjećaj da si ti zaista i uvjeren da je to nekakav dugoročni plan opremanja OSRH te da će se to zaista i dogoditi kroz 15ak godina. Vjerojatno niti ne nauštrb hrvatske ekonomije. E, da mi je nositi tvoje roze naočale...
Totoro no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2010, 12:27 PM   #1607
mic of Orion
I come in peace \V/
 
mic of Orion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London
Posts: 11,021
Likes (Received): 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by Totoro View Post
Čitam ja Mica već evo par godina i nije ovo prvi put da piše ovakvo što al opet ne mogu vjerovati što moje oči vide. Mic, ti zaista, ZAISTA vjeruješ u to kada napišeš da hrvatska treba 30 eurofightera? U trenutku kada hrvatski vojni budžet za ukupnu nabavku nove opreme troši možda 60ak milijuna eura godišnje, gdje nema novaca za bilo kakve vanbudžetne stavke, a kamoli one od nekoliko milijardi eura - da ja pročitam nešto takvo?

Ajde da je to samo neko tvoje maštanje, no nekako imam osjećaj da si ti zaista i uvjeren da je to nekakav dugoročni plan opremanja OSRH te da će se to zaista i dogoditi kroz 15ak godina. Vjerojatno niti ne nauštrb hrvatske ekonomije. E, da mi je nositi tvoje roze naočale...


ma velim long term 30, sad oko 12, to i galebi znaju sad.

long term oko 2025/7, imas Zadar, Zagreb - 2x12 + 6 trainers.

To bi trebalo bit tak, a sad mozes dobit eurofighter tranche 1 za 50million euros po avion, all in, tak da ne bude billions, mozda oko 1.5 billion euros za 30 tranche 1 aircraft. Italy zeli offload Tranche 1 aircraft za 1 billion euros - 24 aircraft, ali samo za NATO zemlje.
__________________

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin


"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Religion leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to bigotry, bigotry leads to suffering!!!" Mic of Orion
mic of Orion no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2010, 12:47 PM   #1608
SpicyMcHaggis
Registered User
 
SpicyMcHaggis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,683
Likes (Received): 1080

Quote:
Originally Posted by Totoro View Post
Čitam ja Mica već evo par godina
... i još nisi odustao? Svaka čast Mići, ali što se tiče vojske on tu udara u prazno na svakom koraku. Megalomanske brojke, nepostojeće oružje u HV-u, svoje želje uzima zdravo za gotovo i tvrdi da je to službeni plan HV-a...

No offense mate, but chill down a bit
SpicyMcHaggis no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2010, 01:18 PM   #1609
mic of Orion
I come in peace \V/
 
mic of Orion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London
Posts: 11,021
Likes (Received): 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicyMcHaggis View Post
... i još nisi odustao? Svaka čast Mići, ali što se tiče vojske on tu udara u prazno na svakom koraku. Megalomanske brojke, nepostojeće oružje u HV-u, svoje želje uzima zdravo za gotovo i tvrdi da je to službeni plan HV-a...

No offense mate, but chill down a bit
ma da, di sam rekal ovo, nepostojeca oruzje...

spicy, nemoj drkat ovid ok, nisam nimalo happy.

mozda na pocetku u 2005/6 sam malo lupetal o tom kja hrvatska treba, ali kaj ima je drugo. naravno da hocu da hrvatska ima najbolje i quality stuff, ali s idiotima u HV i MO, HDZ i crocks to nije moguce.


Ja sam rekal da hrvatska treba to i to, da li b i dobilo to, another story .

Pa imas Generele koji ne znaju kaj vojska treba radit, nemaju qualifications da bu bili u vojski, samo gledaju kak bu bili dugo na kicmi drzave.

nemoj ti sad lupetat kaj mic je veli megalomanski w.e ja velim kaj je,

http://arhiva.morh.hr/
__________________

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin


"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Religion leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to bigotry, bigotry leads to suffering!!!" Mic of Orion
mic of Orion no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2010, 02:28 AM   #1610
mic of Orion
I come in peace \V/
 
mic of Orion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London
Posts: 11,021
Likes (Received): 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delmat View Post




vs.



ok what's the latest
__________________

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin


"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Religion leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to bigotry, bigotry leads to suffering!!!" Mic of Orion
mic of Orion no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2010, 05:54 PM   #1611
fizicki neradnik
Easily fooled
 
fizicki neradnik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 86
Likes (Received): 0

Nema ti o našoj vojsci tako puno vijesti. Da nema ovih rasprava o stranoj vojnoj tehnici ova bi tema imala 3 strane.
__________________
Strangers have the best candy.
fizicki neradnik no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 24th, 2010, 12:40 AM   #1612
Miki86
Moderator
 
Miki86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Slavonski Brod
Posts: 4,043
Likes (Received): 2083

Kod Poloja pronađen MIG 21

Ronioci na dnu Save pronašli dijelove MIG-a koji je raketirao Slavonski Brod

Brodski ronioci i članovi kluba "Marsonia" za vrijeme ronjenja u rijeci Savi kod Poloja pronašli su dijelove MIG-a 21, zrakoplova s kojim je JNA u ratnoj 1992. godini raketirala most i bombardirala Slavonski Brod. Priča o srušenom avionu koji je pao na brodsko kupalište nije nova jer su djelovi srušenog zrakoplova pronađeni netom nakon što je i pao na slavonskobrodsko tlo, dok je priča o postojanju motora dugo vremena kružila kuloarima.

Priča je kružila sve dok prilikom obavljanja ekoloških akcija, splavari nisu se požalili kako im zapinju ribiški štapovi na jednoj lokaciji na Savi. Brodski ronioci su se bacili u traganje te su nakon tri dana upornog ronjenja pronašli mlazni motor od srušenog aviona. Ronioci Darko Tomić, Dominik Glas i Delibor Jakičić su rekli kako im je posao otežan zbog vrlo male vidljivosti u Savi koja nije veća od 40 centimentara a prema njihovim iskazima motor je duži od jednog metra a obujam mu je toliko velik da ga mogu zagrliti dva čovjeka.

Motor je težak oko 2 tone i zabijen je u šljunak te ronioci su izvjestili Muzej brodskog Posavlja. Brodski ronioci su izrazili spremnost da izvuku motor na obalu pomoću dizalice a o tome će svoj blagoslov morati dati nadležne institucije i lokalna vlast. Idućih dana ronioci će na "mjestu zločina" očistiti motor od pijeska kako bi ga oslobodili i kako bi postao spreman za vađenje.

Uz motor ronioci prema očevicima pada zrakoplova traže i krilo srušenog MIG-a, a prema nekim pričama s jednim "antikvitetom" naši momci su nakon pada zaigrali i mali nogomet.

http://www.sbiportal.hr/slavonski-br...jest/4236.html
Miki86 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 24th, 2010, 11:46 PM   #1613
Rovinjac
Rovinj metropola!
 
Rovinjac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Rovinj-Hrvatska
Posts: 2,034
Likes (Received): 388

Upit

Jel bi se mogla ova dretva prebaciti u "gospodarstvo, infrastruktura, i razvoj" da bude preglednije, a i vojska s vojnom industrijom spada pod gospodarstvo. Ovdje mi je nalo zabačena-van ruke!

Last edited by Rovinjac; August 25th, 2010 at 02:04 PM.
Rovinjac no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 25th, 2010, 12:21 AM   #1614
OettingerCroat
Disenfranchised
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Oakland (USA) // Split (CRO)
Posts: 7,397
Likes (Received): 5

kao što sam već reká, nije ti loša ideja!
OettingerCroat no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 25th, 2010, 12:23 AM   #1615
Rovinjac
Rovinj metropola!
 
Rovinjac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Rovinj-Hrvatska
Posts: 2,034
Likes (Received): 388

Odlično stari! Thx.
Rovinjac no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2010, 10:37 AM   #1616
Totoro
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 203
Likes (Received): 4

ne kužim čemu stalno seljakanje ove teme. tema je originalno i bila u gospodarstvu, onda se bila digla hajka na offtopic teme pa je brisana, pa je osvanula u kafiću pa se evo sada zatvara krug i opet se vraća na gospodarstvo. ima li kakvih garancija da se ponovo tema neće zamjeriti adminima pa će je se ponovo brisati?
Totoro no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2010, 01:29 PM   #1617
MasonicStage™
Nadmoderator
 
MasonicStage™'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Zagreb
Posts: 18,010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Totoro View Post
ne kužim čemu stalno seljakanje ove teme. tema je originalno i bila u gospodarstvu, onda se bila digla hajka na offtopic teme pa je brisana, pa je osvanula u kafiću pa se evo sada zatvara krug i opet se vraća na gospodarstvo. ima li kakvih garancija da se ponovo tema neće zamjeriti adminima pa će je se ponovo brisati?
nema
za sada je ovako
__________________
zagrebforumhrvatskiforummasonicstagegold.member.card
MasonicStage™ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2010, 02:01 PM   #1618
coki
Registered User
 
coki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tu negdje
Posts: 1,097
Likes (Received): 276

Quote:
Originally Posted by MasonicStage™ View Post
nema
za sada je ovako
Its good to be the king!
coki no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 27th, 2010, 09:43 AM   #1619
Rovinjac
Rovinj metropola!
 
Rovinjac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Rovinj-Hrvatska
Posts: 2,034
Likes (Received): 388

Ja se isto nadam da neće više biti seljakanja, jer joj je tu mjesto!
Rovinjac no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 28th, 2010, 06:25 AM   #1620
mic of Orion
I come in peace \V/
 
mic of Orion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London
Posts: 11,021
Likes (Received): 7

sad vidim zakaj je moj post count isal tak puno, u pondeljak samimal 8870 postova u petak imam 9040 postova
__________________

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin


"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Religion leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to bigotry, bigotry leads to suffering!!!" Mic of Orion
mic of Orion no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.2.5 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu