Should the UK pull out of Eurovision?

Mancunian Monkey · May 25th, 2008, 03:15 PM

Time for the BBC to stop paying for this farce. Leave it to the Balkanites and the USSR. Yesh?

***Svartmetall*** · May 25th, 2008, 03:17 PM

Bloc voting FTW.

Yes pull out.

EDIT: Am I a UK member as an overseas citizen?

Wendigo Wendigo · May 25th, 2008, 03:20 PM

But if we pulled out then we'd have no reason to watch it. I was thinking about this last night and also about the Beatles' White Album (don't ask why, the explanation's too long) and it struck me that, as we're guaranteed to come last every year, we should make an effort every year to enter something guaranteed to get nul points. Something in the style of Revolution No9 might be a good start for next year's entry and then maybe we could move into Frank Zappa territory.

Tony Sebo · May 25th, 2008, 03:21 PM

No, stay in the ESC, just get out of the infinitely more corrupt EU (there we go P:!)

Its all just bollocks, so don't worry about it, it is not like it involves 'weighty matters of governence' is it?

Newcastle Guy · May 25th, 2008, 03:22 PM

The BBC should start a 'Western Europe' Eurovision and leave the commies to it.

Gareth · May 25th, 2008, 03:22 PM

Yes. Failing that, we should stop paying for it and just compete in the heats, only to be knocked out. After a few years of that, even the most diehard supporters will become disillusioned. Good night Belgrade, good night Moscow.

Gareth · May 25th, 2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newcastle Guy

The BBC should start a 'Western Europe' Eurovision and leave the commies to it.

Then the Scandinavians start arsing about with the bloc voting. They're the ones who started it.

Tony Sebo · May 25th, 2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendigo Wendigo

But if we pulled out then we'd have no reason to watch it. I was thinking about this last night and also about the Beatles' White Album (don't ask why, the explanation's too long) and it struck me that, as we're guaranteed to come last every year, we should make an effort every year to enter something guaranteed to get nul points. Something in the style of Revolution No9 might be a good start for next year's entry and then maybe we could move into Frank Zappa territory.

or we could take the piss, like the Irish did, both in the entrant they elected to send, and in the acts that they voted for on the night!

VaastuShastra · May 25th, 2008, 03:26 PM

Maybe we should stop paying, but not pull out.

I personally just wanna see the UK put some real music into it.

Some cutting edge metal or electronic or whatever.

Or maybe take the piss by putting an orchestra in.

Fuck the pop stuff, make it a cultural showpiece.

Its not like we are gonna win anyway.

Paul D · May 25th, 2008, 03:29 PM

Yes because it's a pile of shite.

Bachy Soletanche · May 25th, 2008, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Sebo

or we could take the piss, like the Irish did, both in the entrant they elected to send, and in the acts that they voted for on the night!

They voted for the UK didn't they?

blahblah · May 25th, 2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancunian Monkey

Time for the BBC to stop paying for this farce. Leave it to the Balkanites and the USSR. Yesh?

For the first time ever. I actually agree with with you about something.

CharlieP · May 25th, 2008, 03:42 PM

Surely the benefits of Eurovision membership far outweigh the embarrassment of having to perform in a ridiculous kitschfest every year? The BBC would have to negotiate a lot of rights separately and probably pay more for European newsgathering, sports events etc. etc.

http://www.eurovision.net/acq/sportsrights.php

Gareth · May 25th, 2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieP

Surely the benefits of Eurovision membership far outweigh the embarrassment of having to perform in a ridiculous kitschfest every year? The BBC would have to negotiate a lot of rights separately and probably pay more for European newsgathering, sports events etc. etc.

I don't get what you're talking about. Newsgathering?

Mancunian Monkey · May 25th, 2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieP

Surely the benefits of Eurovision membership far outweigh the embarrassment of having to perform in a ridiculous kitschfest every year? The BBC would have to negotiate a lot of rights separately and probably pay more for European newsgathering, sports events etc. etc.

http://www.eurovision.net/acq/sportsrights.php

Pulling out of Eurovision isn't the same as pulling out of the EBU though?

Marky_boy · May 25th, 2008, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaastuShastra

Maybe we should stop paying, but not pull out.

I personally just wanna see the UK put some real music into it.

Some cutting edge metal or electronic or whatever.

Or maybe take the piss by putting an orchestra in.

Fuck the pop stuff, make it a cultural showpiece.

Its not like we are gonna win anyway.

Well Spain, France and Germany do the opposite and put out the worst song possible because they know they won't win, and they still do better than us. Licence payers are funding a big party in Eastern Europe every year.

Suppose it's an option to split up the UK into the 4 home nations, but I doubt it would make much difference. What about giving more votes to countries with bigger populations? Actually if countries like San Marino and Monaco can enter then so should Jersey, Guernsey, Isle of Man etc.

Gareth · May 25th, 2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marky_boy

Suppose it's an option to split up the UK into the 4 home nations, but I doubt it would make much difference. What about giving more votes to countries with bigger populations?

It would never be allowed as the BBC would not be trusted to run the voting in all four areas without fixing it.

CharlieP · May 25th, 2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancunian Monkey

Pulling out of Eurovision isn't the same as pulling out of the EBU though?

Pretty much - Eurovision is the operational side of the EBU, so there wouldn't be much point in remaining an "honorary" EBU member only.

http://www.eurovision.net/about/profile.php

Erebus555 · May 25th, 2008, 04:19 PM

Considering that the Brits pretty much mapped Europe, I think we should decide who should participate and shouldn't in Eurovision!

clarky · May 25th, 2008, 04:34 PM

We should have a Germanic vision song contest instead.

May 25th, 2008, 03:15 PM	#1
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*Svartmetall* Ordo Ab Chao Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Past: Northampton, UK (19 years), Auckland NZ (7 years), Now: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 9,170 Likes (Received): 207	Bloc voting FTW. Yes pull out. EDIT: Am I a UK member as an overseas citizen? __________________ "Alle Ding sind Gift, und nichts ohn Gift; allein die Dosis macht, daß ein Ding kein Gift ist." Paracelsus 1493-1541 Last edited by Svartmetall; May 25th, 2008 at 03:28 PM.

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Gareth Keltlandia Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 8,963 Likes (Received): 59	Yes. Failing that, we should stop paying for it and just compete in the heats, only to be knocked out. After a few years of that, even the most diehard supporters will become disillusioned. Good night Belgrade, good night Moscow. __________________ http://www.liverpoolmetropolis.org/ Last edited by Gareth; May 25th, 2008 at 03:42 PM.

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May 25th, 2008, 03:20 PM	#3
Wendigo Wendigo I'm in your woods Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Eating your picnic. Posts: 7,831 Likes (Received): 68	But if we pulled out then we'd have no reason to watch it. I was thinking about this last night and also about the Beatles' White Album (don't ask why, the explanation's too long) and it struck me that, as we're guaranteed to come last every year, we should make an effort every year to enter something guaranteed to get nul points. Something in the style of Revolution No9 might be a good start for next year's entry and then maybe we could move into Frank Zappa territory.

May 25th, 2008, 03:21 PM	#4
Tony Sebo BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 18,306 Likes (Received): 4	No, stay in the ESC, just get out of the infinitely more corrupt EU (there we go P:!) Its all just bollocks, so don't worry about it, it is not like it involves 'weighty matters of governence' is it?

May 25th, 2008, 03:22 PM	#5
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,955 Likes (Received): 18	The BBC should start a 'Western Europe' Eurovision and leave the commies to it.

May 25th, 2008, 03:26 PM	#9
VaastuShastra Cats > Squirrels Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 8,599	Maybe we should stop paying, but not pull out. I personally just wanna see the UK put some real music into it. Some cutting edge metal or electronic or whatever. Or maybe take the piss by putting an orchestra in. Fuck the pop stuff, make it a cultural showpiece. Its not like we are gonna win anyway.

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