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Old April 24th, 2015, 09:09 AM   #1081
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Its in La Defence, you don't have the heritage issues like you do in the older downtown of Paris. Build it, I say.
Paris is becoming the Grand Paris. The assertion I was questioning was "Paris deserves a new tallest building". Furthermore, it will be clearly visible from the Champs Elysées, and globally from the 8th, 17th and 16th arrondissement, and also from high points like Montmartre Hill, or Notre Dame towers or Tour Saint Jacques.

My concern is not to avoid to build anything new, fortunately for Paris, but to go for the "tallest" just because it is tall. Which I think is actually an old fashion 20th century marker. Or a boy issue

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rich people should have the right to live in the sky in paris
Rich people live in private homes in Paris. And you dont need to live high to see the sky or have a view like in NYC.
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A new tallest is always something good for a city. There is no such thing as too tall
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Old April 24th, 2015, 05:14 PM   #1083
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Old April 24th, 2015, 05:37 PM   #1084
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Or a boy issue
What kind of sexist comment was that!
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Old April 24th, 2015, 10:32 PM   #1085
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What kind of sexist comment was that!
This is not sexist but psychoanalytic (and a quite obvious and accepted one).

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A new tallest is always something good for a city.
But why ?
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Old April 24th, 2015, 10:58 PM   #1087
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This is not sexist but psychoanalytic (and a quite obvious and accepted one).
you crack me up
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This is not sexist but psychoanalytic (and a quite obvious and accepted one).



But why ?
Because it is human nature to strive for perfection and progress and it is human nature to create symbols of their virtues. Going as tall as possible is creating new symbols of our progress, something for the future generations to admire. These buildings will be considered tiny compared to what will come in a century, however they document that in our age we strived for perfection just as much as the people in the generations to come (hopefully)
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Old April 25th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #1090
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you crack me up
Glad to see you laughing, but you should revise your definition of "sexist" anyway and refer to the common dictionary.

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Because it is human nature to strive for perfection and progress and it is human nature to create symbols of their virtues. Going as tall as possible is creating new symbols of our progress, something for the future generations to admire. These buildings will be considered tiny compared to what will come in a century, however they document that in our age we strived for perfection just as much as the people in the generations to come (hopefully)
"tall" is just one dimension, progress is a multidimensional issue. You are focusing on one among many others, and not the more important. In the case of the Hermitage project, building @320m while we already have 800m+ structures is a no brainer and is not really striving for perfection nor progress as you mean it. The way you speak of "perfection" and "progress" is much alike progressivism, which was at its high more than 100 years ago. Thus I am not surprised you like projects like a taller tower today. Tomorrow may be far different.
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Old April 26th, 2015, 09:18 PM   #1091
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I say that because it was a joke and you took it seriously!
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I really like these.

Tall buildings in Paris is not required at all visually, only economically. However, if they cluster them in La Defense, it's fine and will only help improve the city as that area is rather dull. I wouldn't like to see skyscrapers all around the inner suburbs of Paris though. It would just look wrong.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 11:19 AM   #1093
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Because it is human nature to strive for perfection and progress and it is human nature to create symbols of their virtues. Going as tall as possible is creating new symbols of our progress, something for the future generations to admire. These buildings will be considered tiny compared to what will come in a century, however they document that in our age we strived for perfection just as much as the people in the generations to come (hopefully)
Sometimes building tall towers is actually striving for the worst of human nature too.. Cities have been harmed urbanistically, skyscrapers have been seen as symbols of corruption and greed, some have been built on the backs of cheap labor under awful conditions.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 08:06 PM   #1094
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in a few years, you will see the hermitage towers in paris' postcards.
they will be a new symbol of the city
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in a few years, you will see the hermitage towers in paris' postcards.
they will be a new symbol of the city
It will be a great view down the Champs Elysee indeed. I suspect it will be the symbol of the the contemporary Paris.
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Old May 7th, 2015, 04:59 PM   #1096
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http://www.hotelchatter.com/story/2015/5/6/01055/61402/hotels/How's_This_for_a_Potential_Paris_Pool_with_a_Killer_View%3F_

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Could this be the hotel pool?




It may be time to rename the City of Light the City That Never Sleeps… When It Comes To Hotels. Paris is on fire at the moment, and the latest project to get on the road is the Seine-side Hermitage Plaza, in the La Défense area (Europe’s largest purpose built business district, according to Wikipedia).

There are more superlatives for the project itself – twin glass towers, the tallest multi-purpose building “ever erected in Western Europe” according to the people behind it. To put that into perspective, at 320m high, it’s almost the same height as the Eiffel Tower (they’ve deliberately made it a little shorter, so as not to outshine Monsieur Gustave). And although it’s not especially central, the height means you’ll get sweeping views of the Seine and the Eiffel Tower, too.



Foster & Partners are behind the plans; there’s little detail so far, but we know there will be a five star hotel in the higher tower (one is 86 stories, the other is 85), and an art gallery and a concert hall, as well as a shopping mall, in the square below. Here are some renderings from the project – these are from the apartments, of course, but imagine the views! What's the betting the hotel will have a similar pool overlooking the Eiffel Tower? Hopefully the odds are good.



So who’s going to move in? We’re tickled by the idea of another Shangri-La, to match its property at the Shard in London, but we doubt it. It’s a business area, and HC's Paris expert JasonD reckons Four Seasons are looking for a business property in Paris. Starwood? Marriott? It's anyone's guess - drop your own in the comments below!

Thanks, as ever, to Hôtellerie de Luxe for the heads up!

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Old May 15th, 2015, 05:55 PM   #1097
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Soooooo...is anybody ever going to build these things ?

I think these towers have been proposed for about a decade now. I'm probably overestimating how long they've been in the proposal stage. Several years anyway.

It's actually kind of a joke and I'm pretty sure this is just some sort of marketing ploy by somebody.
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Old May 15th, 2015, 06:00 PM   #1098
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Russian developer Hermitage should start work this autumn

https://www.pie-mag.com/articles/951...fense-project/
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