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Old June 25th, 2015, 10:16 PM   #1121
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It will most certainly disfigure the Paris we love.
People said exactly the same about Eiffel Tower 130 years ago.
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Old June 26th, 2015, 08:34 PM   #1122
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Finally a good news.
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Old June 26th, 2015, 11:04 PM   #1123
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On apprend par defense-92.fr aujourd'hui que l'association Vivre à la Défense s'est bien pourvue en cassation auprès du Conseil d'Etat au sujet des recours contre les permis de démolir rejetés par la cour administrative d'appel en octobre dernier.

Vu les délais en Conseil d'Etat (étonnamment plus courts qu'en 1ère instance et en appel), on peut s'attendre à une décision vers janvier prochain. Probablement le Conseil d'Etat rejettera le pourvoi. Les derniers locataires récalcitrants seront donc expulsables à partir du 1er avril 2016, comme je l'ai toujours dit depuis le début. Il faudra encore qu'Hermitage demande au tribunal un ordre d'expulsion, et avec les divers recours possibles, les opposants peuvent arriver à faire trainer les choses jusqu'au début de la trève hivernale en novembre 2016. En ce cas, l'expulsion aurait lieu au printemps 2017, en plein campagne présidentielle, mais est-ce que le président Hollande prendrait le risque de donner son feu vert au préfet des Hauts-de-Seine pour procéder à l'expulsion à seulement quelques semaines du 1er tour des présidentielles ? F9

Sinon on en apprend un peu plus sur les fameux recours dont parlaient l'avocate hier et qui ne seraient jugés en 1ère instance qu'au 2è trimestre de 2016. Apparemment, c'est tordu. L'association Vivre à La Défense avait contesté la vente en 2001 des Damiers d'Infra, d'Anjou et de Bretagne par Axa Collectivités à Logis Transports, au motif que Logis Transports était un bailleur social et qu'il n'avait donc pas vocation à gérer des immeubles privés comme les Damiers. Si la vente de 2001 était annulée, Logis Transports ne serait pas le propriétaire, et donc la promesse de vente des Damiers d'Infra, d'Anjou et de Bretagne par Logis Transports à Hermitage signée en 2007 serait nulle, ce qui ferait s'effondrer tout le château de carte. Le 6 septembre 2011, le TGI de Paris avait rejeté la demande de l'association Vivre à La Défense, au motif que cette demande ne relevait pas de l'objet social de cette association. L'association avait fait appel devant la cour d'appel de Paris le 9 septembre 2011 qui avait confirmé le rejet de la demande de l'association Vivre à La Défense par le TGI de Paris le 3 mai 2012. Vivre à La Défense s'était pourvu en cassation, et la Cour de cassation avait rejeté son pourvoi le 2 octobre 2013.

Donc apparemment, loin d'en rester là, certains des locataires membres de l’association Vivre à La Défense ont décidé de retenter le coup devant le TGI, mais cette fois-ci à titre individuel, en espérant que leur demande cette fois sera examinée au fond au lieu d'être simplement déclarée irrecevable car ne relevant pas de l'objet social de l'association. En soi ça ne bloque pas le projet, puisque rien dans tout ça n'est suspensif, mais ça maintient une insécurité juridique. Ça montre aussi le degré d'acharnement de ces gars.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 07:55 AM   #1124
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[QUOTE=Jex7844;125103354]Kissme, you should translate this message by Brisavoine as well...*



Oh non pas encore.
Mais quel bande d abrutis de faire trainer les choses ainsi.
Je ne peut pas attendre de voir ces torurs devenir réelle.
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Old June 28th, 2015, 01:29 PM   #1125
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People said exactly the same about Eiffel Tower 130 years ago.
So you really compare the Hermitage Towers to the Eiffel Tower which was at its time the highest human construction in the world, and a technological wonder ? Remember also that it was supposed to be rapidly destroyed, and its future was still uncertain 30 years after its building. Think again.

With your statement, one could justify *any* new proposal. Thus it is actually void.
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Old June 28th, 2015, 02:10 PM   #1126
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So you really compare the Hermitage Towers to the Eiffel Tower which was at its time the highest human construction in the world, and a technological wonder ? Remember also that it was supposed to be rapidly destroyed, and its future was still uncertain 30 years after its building. Think again.

With your statement, one could justify *any* new proposal. Thus it is actually void.
Hermitage Plaza is located in La Défense, a financial district. La Défense does never disfigure Paris. From the historical center, you will juste see Hermitage's silhouette !
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Old June 29th, 2015, 02:48 AM   #1127
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People said exactly the same about Eiffel Tower 130 years ago.
And also the Grande Arche, Glass Pyramid and the Centre Pompidou, but now all three are well-loved Parisian icons.
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Old June 29th, 2015, 12:00 PM   #1128
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And also the Grande Arche, Glass Pyramid and the Centre Pompidou, but now all three are well-loved Parisian icons.
Not really for the Centre Pompidou ...
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 09:42 AM   #1129
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I've heard that construction will be starting very soon!
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 10:20 AM   #1130
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 11:25 AM   #1131
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It's not a well-loved Parisian icon??
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 07:54 PM   #1132
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Old July 24th, 2015, 05:32 PM   #1133
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Old July 25th, 2015, 03:44 AM   #1134
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Consturction on Hermitage starts this year right?
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Old July 25th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #1135
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Old July 25th, 2015, 10:43 PM   #1136
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des rendus d'hermitage que je n'avais jamais vu encore







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Old July 27th, 2015, 02:06 AM   #1137
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Old July 28th, 2015, 12:50 PM   #1139
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Old August 6th, 2015, 01:11 AM   #1140
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The PDG/CEO of Hermitage said that the destruction of existing buildings will begin even if there are legal actions. Destruction would begin at the end of this year...hopefully. And the construction begin juste after. Alors prions !
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