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Old October 31st, 2003, 03:16 PM   #101
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Hi,
Surprise to see new Surabaya photos here. These are the best shots of the center of Surabaya I've known, as there almost no Surabaya photos in the net.

But I still can not find the West part of Surabaya where development also occured in the 90's especially. There are mot too many buildings but the highest ones are there. They are apartments and hotels.

Looking from here, Surabaya does not look very bad.

Surabaya still look about the same, many constructions halted. But new projects starts to come. Darmo Trade Center (DTC) is about 14 stories. Supermall Pakuwon Indah is going to open soon this November... this is located in the Western part of the city. And also still on the plan is about 10 stories trade center, to replace Pasar Tunjungan.
I got the photos of DTC (though just the model) and Pasar Tunjungan.

Not very bad, but compare to Jkt... yeah, Sby still lacks large scale development.

Wait till I go back and I will build Surabaya to compete with Jkt!


Thanks for the photo!! I took them! I will support Surabaya thread.
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Old October 31st, 2003, 04:13 PM   #102
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my two cents

Hey all!
it's great to see this thread alive again..

Unfortunately I do not have any renderings/pics of the Peak, nor do I know its exact location...hmm..seems like it is a very new project and I'm not sure if it has started construction yet.

I don't think Sudirman Place/The Pinnacle (they refer to 1 building, the former refers to the shopping centre at the base, the latter refers to the apartment) will be taller than the BNI46 as I believe it is 40 storeys high..(compared to 46 for BNI46).

As for the Peak, I'm not too sure if it will be 300 m but since it supposedly will be taller than BNI46, it should def. be above 250m. My guess is somewhere between 250-300m. Number of floors is not a good indication of height though, e.g. Eureka is 88 storeys but 300 m, while Airlangga/Ritz Carlton is only 60 storeys but is taller... Another example - Menara Mulia is 50+ storeys yet BNI46 is taller...(maybe cos of the spire?..I dunno). I'd still place my bet on Ritz Carlton/Airlangga being the tallest in 2005 tho..=) (just my gut feeling).

The Jakarta Tower project has been posponed indefinitely and there are no plans to resume the project at present..however if completed it will be 558 m...I've heard that Dubai is building a 700 m tower though..

Anyway..after this round of apartment boom I hope to see a new boom of office towers development (like the early-mid 90s)..

I would love to see the BDNI Centre project be resumed..
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Old October 31st, 2003, 09:21 PM   #103
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Another Jakarta completed and U/C buildings











The jakarta tower is cancelled, I dont know about the rest

Great..i havent sleep yet..just to find those pics

I need to sleep
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Old October 31st, 2003, 09:43 PM   #104
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heres more !!








I got some more but..my eyes couldnt stay open....

I am going to sleep for real now
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Old November 1st, 2003, 03:35 AM   #105
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Update on Monorail project

Construction of monorail system to start in January


Bambang Nurbianto, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

The construction of two monorail lines is scheduled to begin in January 2004 but the elevated public transport system will only operate in the center of Jakarta instead of connecting Jakarta with Bekasi in the east and Tangerang in the west as originally planned.

The US$540 million two monorail lines will be built by PT Indonesian Transit Central (ITC) and its Malaysian partner M Trans Holdings.

ITC technical director Sukmawati Syukur said on Friday that the decision to revise the two monorail lines was based on the latest feasibility study conducted by ITC's consultant Mott MacDonald Indonesia.

"The study shows that constructing a Bekasi-Casablanca-Tangerang monorail line is not feasible if the infrastructure in the downtown is not prepared," Sukmawati told The Jakarta Post.

The original plan of the project was a 22.5-kilometer monorail line which would connect Bekasi and Tangerang via Jakarta's major roads including Jl. Casablanca and Jl. Daan Mogot.

However, the budgets for those swelled from $400 million to $540 million.

Sukmawati said that her company would first construct a 14.8-kilometer circular line. This "green line" will serve Jakarta's busiest downtown areas including Senayan, Jl. H.R. Rasuna Said and Jl. Jend. Sudirman with 16 stations.

The 16 stations are located at the Senayan Sports complex, Plaza Senayan, the Jakarta Convention Center, Taman Ria Senayan, the House of Representatives/People's Consultative Assembly building, Pejompongan, Karet, Sudirman, Setiabudi, Kuningan, Taman Rasuna, Casablanca, Gran Melia, Satria Mandala Museum, Jakarta Police Headquarters and the Jakarta Stock Exchange.

"The construction of the 'green line' is expected to be completed within two years," she said, adding that another 12.2-kilometer "blue line" would be started later. Both lines should be completed in the next three years.

The blue line will begin at Kampung Melayu in East Jakarta and end in Roxy, West Jakarta, with 13 stations in Kampung Melayu, Tebet, Saharjo, Menteng Dalam, Casablanca, Ambassador, Dharmala Sakti, Menara Batavia, Karet, Kebon Kacang, Tanah Abang and Cideng.

To minimize the traffic jams caused by the construction, Sukmawati said that the concrete pillars would be built first in the company's factory. The pillars would then be transported and installed at night.

When both monorail lines are completed, they are expected to transport some 140,000 people per day.

Each passenger will have to pay for a ticket costing between Rp 5,000 (60 U.S. cents) and Rp 7,500, depending on the distance.

ITC is a consortium of local companies of PT Adhi Karya, Global Profex Synergy and Radiant Utama set to develop the monorail project.

The project's Memorandum of Understanding between M Trans and the Jakarta Administration was signed in Sarawak, Malaysia and witnessed by the newly retired Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad and President Megawati Soekarnoputri in August.

Sukmawati said that her company was still discussing the final results of the feasibility study. But she guaranteed that there would be no significant changes.

ITC is still waiting for another discussion with the administration on its role as the monorail concessionaire. Sukmawati said that her company proposed a 40-year build-operate-transfer (BOT) contract as the company hopes to reach its break-even point within 12 years.
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Old November 1st, 2003, 03:42 AM   #106
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Another Jakarta completed and U/C buildings











The jakarta tower is cancelled, I dont know about the rest

Great..i havent sleep yet..just to find those pics

I need to sleep

yo david.. I cant see the pics man..
u needed sleep?? me too.. I've been working on my assignment, making this dance studio for my course.. and I've been staying whole night until 6.30 in the morning.. luckily I had a red bull.. or else I'll be sleeping way before this... ehhehe
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Old November 1st, 2003, 05:12 AM   #107
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Great job, David! you've been working hard

thanks for the update, Alvin. So they moved it from December to January. Coo, they're building two lines at the same time

Btw, did i tell you guys that the busway project is on full force now? they are building all the bus stops right in the middle of Jl. Sudirman! Lets see how that goes. the construction interupts traffic flow as there are equipment taking up one lane in some areas.
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Old November 1st, 2003, 05:38 AM   #108
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Great job, David! you've been working hard

thanks for the update, Alvin. So they moved it from December to January. Coo, they're building two lines at the same time

Btw, did i tell you guys that the busway project is on full force now? they are building all the bus stops right in the middle of Jl. Sudirman! Lets see how that goes. the construction interupts traffic flow as there are equipment taking up one lane in some areas.
yeah I heard about that from the newspaper...
let's see how it goes..

another pic of jakarta from a different angle which I found on the net
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Old November 1st, 2003, 06:35 AM   #109
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Pics and more pics









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Old November 1st, 2003, 07:45 AM   #110
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What is the name and the height of this building ??

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Old November 1st, 2003, 09:01 AM   #111
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@David80 - this building is actually Menara Pelita of Kuching, Malaysia



Wonderful pics guys!
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Old November 1st, 2003, 09:33 AM   #112
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@baqthier : Thanks bro ! some blokes renamed those pics to jakarta-pelita

@Mahaputra : thats good bro, dont forget to take some pics later on sports mall, my wife told me its huge but still empty.

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Old November 1st, 2003, 12:52 PM   #113
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awesome pics, mahaputra!! so much greenery in that Cathedral pic!

David, sports mall is now open. Yeah, its quite big but i just dont like its location. its in the suburbs of Kelapa Gading right in the middle of housing complexes...

@ Eric Wong - I'm not sure on the name of that building but i know that is one of the top 5 tallest in Jakarta.
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Old November 1st, 2003, 01:02 PM   #114
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Ghee...finally i can access this forum again !

Grey, the Mall is the biggest in Jakarta or Indonesia? I know Surabaya has their biggest shopping center, Tunyungan plaza or something, man thats huge

man, its about time we need indonesia subforum

I wish more indonesian forumers are coming

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Ghee...finally i can access this forum again !

Grey, the Mall is the biggest in Jakarta or Indonesia? I know Surabaya has their biggest shopping center, Tunyungan plaza or something, man thats huge

man, its about time we need indonesia subforum

I wish more indonesian forumers are coming

current list : Mahaputra, Alvin, GreyX, teddybear, me and who else?
No way! Sports Mall is just a Basketball gym/complex with stores in it. Current biggest mall in Jakarta is still Taman Anggrek. The most high end mall is Senayan Plaza and Plaza Indonesia.
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Old November 1st, 2003, 01:23 PM   #116
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@baqthier : Thanks bro ! some blokes renamed those pics to jakarta-pelita

@Mahaputra : thats good bro, dont forget to take some pics later on sports mall, my wife told me its huge but still empty.

yep I will.. although it's quite far from my house.. ehehe
but I'll do it for the forum.. eheheh
yeah, as greyx said, the location is kinda crap.. is like between residential houses... in a housing complex
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Anymore Jakarta pics ??
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Old November 1st, 2003, 01:25 PM   #118
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No way! Sports Mall is just a Basketball gym/complex with stores in it. Current biggest mall in Jakarta is still Taman Anggrek. The most high end mall is Senayan Plaza and Plaza Indonesia.
yeah.. it's just a basktball hall with stores around it.. eheh
I've heard that plaza semanggi is gonna be the biggest mall in Indonesia, beating Taman Anggrek, is that true..??
oh yeah.. the mall that u mentioned david, it's tunjungan plaza..

what about WTC Mangga Dua?? isnt that huge?? it looks huge from the highway last time I saw it
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Old November 1st, 2003, 01:26 PM   #119
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Anymore Jakarta pics ??
Coming up in 3 weeks or more time.. ehehhe that's when I'll be back home.. in 3 weeks time...
I'll take all the major constructions like Ritz Carlton, Plaza Semanggi, Sudirman Place, The Peak, Bellagio residence, and others..
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Old November 1st, 2003, 01:28 PM   #120
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Ghee...finally i can access this forum again !

Grey, the Mall is the biggest in Jakarta or Indonesia? I know Surabaya has their biggest shopping center, Tunyungan plaza or something, man thats huge

man, its about time we need indonesia subforum

I wish more indonesian forumers are coming

current list : Mahaputra, Alvin, GreyX, teddybear, me and who else?
Do we only have 5 Indonesian Forumers?? I thought we have more than that..?? man.. that's bad.. we need more.. ehehhe
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