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Old August 29th, 2005, 10:50 PM   #61
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or maybe a joint Thai/Malay or Malay/Singapore bid ā la Korea/Japan.
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Old August 30th, 2005, 08:53 AM   #62
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Jugding by the number/size of the stadia they have now I'd say Malaysia seems the more likely of the two.
Have they even been to a world cup?
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Old August 30th, 2005, 03:59 PM   #63
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2030 will mark 100 years from when the first World Cup was held. It's only a good way to bring it back to Uruguay. Something like this should happen:

2006 Germany
2010 South Africa
2014 Americas (Brazil)
2018 most likely Europe again
2022 Asia (China/Malaysia)
2026 Africa (Egypt/Morocco)
2030 Uruguay
2034 Europe (Portugal)
2038 Australia
2042 United States
Meaning that South Africa in 2010 would host the 80th Birthday of the Soccer World Cup, i think thats quite symbolic...
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Old August 30th, 2005, 04:14 PM   #64
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I think its only fair to reward the England, British and Ireland fans with a World Cup - tournments without them are dull, they travel the world in numbers bigger then armies, its costly, I know, I've struggled to see England in two major tournments, my 3rd will be next year, its not easy ... we bump the local economies so much we deserve something back, I know we got the Olympics, but I would swap that any day for a World Cup ...
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Old August 30th, 2005, 06:25 PM   #65
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brumculture,

That's a bit arrogant! What about the Dutch, German, Brazilian, and Argie fans?

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About KJ02 venues...

None have been demolished. Most are being put to use. The only 2 that I can think off which are total white elephants are Miyagi stadium (local team have their own brand new stadium), and Seogwipo (no local team to utilise it).

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Malaysia and Thailand are struggling at the moment to host the Asian cup, which is a much smaller tournament than the world cup, although I think in the case of Malaysia it's more about tight fistedness than inability. They can easily host it by themselves if they wanted to.
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Old August 30th, 2005, 08:16 PM   #66
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That's a bit arrogant! What about the Dutch, German, Brazilian, and Argie fans?
All very well supported I'm sure(although I guess the Dutch and Brazilians have many fans outside there countries) but in my only expereince of a major comp outside the UK at euro 2004 British fans outnumber everyone else many times over. Not only did they take pretty much every seat not sold direct to the other sides fans at England games(must have been 50,000 of them at the France game) but they made up a very sizeble percentage of a crowd at every other game I went to.
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Old September 3rd, 2005, 11:32 AM   #67
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/4208814.stm

That seems to confirm that european teams will at least be allowed to bid for 2018.
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Old September 3rd, 2005, 11:40 AM   #68
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brumculture,

That's a bit arrogant! What about the Dutch, German, Brazilian, and Argie fans?
Its not that arrogant (for Brumculture ), by next year Germany would have hosted the World Cup twice since we have, and if Brazil gets 2014 as everyone thinks then we will be the major footballing (and revenue ) country with the longest time not having a World Cup.
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Old September 3rd, 2005, 01:18 PM   #69
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I know we got the Olympics, but I would swap that any day for a World Cup ...
It's quite a difficult one that, as much as I would love the World Cup to come to England, got to say, I would just favour hosting the Olympic Games, but it's very marginal
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Old September 4th, 2005, 02:03 PM   #70
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we bump the local economies so much...
...and we bump the locals on the head even more.

I was supporting Wales to beat England yesterday as I've actually decided I don't want England to qualify as I'm that embarassed about how a small minority (yes, I know it's a minority) of English supporters behave at championships...
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Old September 4th, 2005, 02:15 PM   #71
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...and we bump the locals on the head even more.

I was supporting Wales to beat England yesterday as I've actually decided I don't want England to qualify as I'm that embarassed about how a small minority (yes, I know it's a minority) of English supporters behave at championships...
Except there was no trouble whatsoever at the last Euros and the World Cup, no trouble whatsoever in Madrid or Denmark, and despite the best efforts of Welsh hooligans the game in Cardiff passed off pretty much peacefully. The days of Dublin '95 are long gone.
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Old September 4th, 2005, 02:29 PM   #72
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There's always 2 sides to every story.
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Old September 4th, 2005, 03:44 PM   #73
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I'm not sure you can even call what trouble makers that remain supporters as the games themselves and the buildup/aftermath were totally without incident at euro 2004 from my expereince. All your left with now are a load of yobs who came over to the Algarve to get drunk and fight instead of doing so in the UK or in Ibiza.

Its gotten to the stage now where the "english football thug" has become so ingrained into popular culture that anything that does take place is blown massively out of proportion. In comparason we have racist chants in Spain and eastern Europe, Welsh/Scottish fans booing national anthems just as loudly as England fans, missiles raining down on Seria A pitchs, Turkish fans murdering Leeds supporters and Dutch/ German fans killing a policeman at euro 2000 all of which are quickly forgotten. I'd guess its partly down to other nations using it as a political tool agenst us and partly because the UK press is far more self critical than many other european countries.
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Old September 4th, 2005, 06:47 PM   #74
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Its gotten to the stage now where the "english football thug" has become so ingrained into popular culture that anything that does take place is blown massively out of proportion. In comparason we have racist chants in Spain and eastern Europe, .
The 'monkey noises' from Madrid were a disgrace and UEFA should have cracked down like a ton of bricks on the Spanish FA. I think we all know what would have hapenned had an English crowd made such noises. Expulsion.
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Old September 4th, 2005, 06:57 PM   #75
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The 'monkey noises' from Madrid were a disgrace and UEFA should have cracked down like a ton of bricks on the Spanish FA. I think we all know what would have hapenned had an English crowd made such noises. Expulsion.
Maybe not expulsion but certainly the threat of expulsion or at least to have games played behind closed doors, the tiny fines that were handed out gave no incentive for anything to change. Don't confuse my post with stating that theres no problem in English footbal anymore, there is still a problem(even if its mostly away from actual matches) however I don't think its any worse than many other nations problems.
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Old September 4th, 2005, 07:27 PM   #76
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Maybe not expulsion but certainly the threat of expulsion or at least to have games played behind closed doors, the tiny fines that were handed out gave no incentive for anything to change. Don't confuse my post with stating that theres no problem in English footbal anymore, there is still a problem(even if its mostly away from actual matches) however I don't think its any worse than many other nations problems.
I think the current UEFA system of small fines is utterly inadequete. They either need to start docking points or suspend/expel teams whose fans make racist chants. England have been threatend with expulsion before and I see no reason why UEFA can't treat other in a similar fashion.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 05:24 AM   #77
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I don't think Portugal could handle a modern world cup as you'd need at least 10 40,000 plus stadia and most of the 30,000 euro 2004 stadia have already prooved too larger for their clubs, your best chance IMHO would be to host a joint one with Spain using your 3 big stadia.[/QUOTE]

How wrong you are! And believe me Portugal WOULD NEVER team up with Spain for any tournament or anything for that matter.
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Old September 7th, 2005, 01:24 AM   #78
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I don't think Portugal could handle a modern world cup as you'd need at least 10 40,000 plus stadia and most of the 30,000 euro 2004 stadia have already prooved too larger for their clubs, your best chance IMHO would be to host a joint one with Spain using your 3 big stadia.
How wrong you are! And believe me Portugal WOULD NEVER team up with Spain for any tournament or anything for that matter.[/QUOTE]


Well, then Portugal will never host a World Cup.
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Old September 7th, 2005, 03:51 AM   #79
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Oz/NZ on behalf of the Oceania region are "officially" going to attempt to host the 2018 tourney. FIFA has a rotation policy between the regions in place so Europe won't get it back until 2026 after North America hosts it in 2022.

Currently Europe is hosting it in 2006, Africa in 2010, South America 2014, then Oceania's turn/South Pacific/Asia in 2018.
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Old September 7th, 2005, 04:12 AM   #80
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sepp blatter endorsed englands bid the other day, so i think theres a pretty good chance that it will go to europe in 2018
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not gonna find out till 2010 though are we?!
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