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Old November 27th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #921
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Southampton are planning to Gatecrash the party following Portsmouth's withdrawel: http://www.2018england.co.uk/southam...-city-bid.html
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Old November 27th, 2009, 10:29 PM   #922
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The whims of FIFA in terms of space are no longer negotiable. These aren't if or maybe's anymore post 2010. These are your basic requirements, that form part of the requirements for the stadium.

Ignore them at your own peril.
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Old November 27th, 2009, 10:31 PM   #923
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Yep, look at the CL where grounds like Old Trafford and Anfield have several empty front rows due to their large advertising boards....
United's pitch is one of the biggest around...so space aint an issue in the stadium.
Re seats being lost?

Well. only Stretford end, has cordoned off areas...and maybe 500 less seats out of 76,000. That will be before any other options like lowering the pitch or other redevelopments are considered.

Aint an issue.

OT is currently, along with Hampden, the best for space in the UK
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Old November 27th, 2009, 10:32 PM   #924
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yah but the stands are surely too close to the pitch, i swear in Dortmund they had to demolish rows FIFA won't accept tarped seating by the looks...
That would be rubbish if that had to happen. It works fine for the best league in the world, but not for internationals?
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Old November 27th, 2009, 11:51 PM   #925
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I don't know the FIFA demands, but UEFA demands for Euro stadiums is atleast 7,5 m between the field of play and the stands behind the goal. And atleast 6 m between the field of play and the stands on the long sides. In adition it's a demand that the first row for spectators should be 1 m above the pitch level.
And that's why Old Trafford can't use the lower rows.
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Old November 28th, 2009, 01:09 AM   #926
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Pointless beaurocracy from UEFA. Why am I surprised...
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Old November 28th, 2009, 11:27 AM   #927
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Hopefully he'll be good for his word when it comes to the vote...

Fifa's Jack Warner backs England's 2018 World Cup bid

Fifa vice-president Jack Warner has said it "is England's time" to host the 2018 World Cup after meeting Prime Minister Gordon Brown in Trinidad.

Warner, who is head of the Concacaf union of North American and Caribbean football associations, had previously called England's bid "lightweight".

But he has backtracked, saying: "Brown felt England's time had come. I agreed.

"England has the best infrastructure to stage the tournament. After a 52-year gap this is England's time."

Warner's support is seen as crucial to England's hopes of winning the bid.

In his role as head of the Concacaf union, he will effectively control three of the 24 votes on Fifa's executive committee when it chooses the 2018 hosts in December next year...

Brown's comments appear to have swayed Warner who did not repeat his previous concerns about the leadership of the England bid, headed by FA chairman and Labour peer Lord Triesman.

Warner said: "It was an exceptionally good meeting - it was the best case I have heard for a long time about the World Cup being in England.

"I was very impressed by Brown's humility, his sincerity, his knowledge of the game, and most importantly he didn't feel England had any divine right (to host the tournament).

"He felt that England's time had come - a point to which I subscribed.

"Next week I will meet David Beckham in Cape Town. These are not for my ego, but they are the assets that the bid should be using and I am happy to see that they are being used."



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Old November 28th, 2009, 12:10 PM   #928
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"England has the best infrastructure to stage the tournament. After a 52-year gap this is England's time."
Well I guess he has to say something sensible in his lifetime! He's bang on this time and that is exactly why we should get it.
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Old November 28th, 2009, 01:04 PM   #929
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This from the Guardian website:

'Stadiums must have usable capacities of at least 40,000 (meaning a total of around 45,000 once dead seats are taken into account) and meet a series of exacting criteria including regulations about the amount of space around the ground, provision for fan parks, media and so on.

None of the stadiums submitted yesterday already meet the criteria, but all have promised to do so if selected. The amount of space required around the ground will be more of an issue for some than others – the Emirates Stadium and St James' Park, for example, will have to come up with alternative accommodation for hospitality and fan parks. In Liverpool, that will mean using Stanley Park. Cities will also be tested on hotel provision, transport plans and so on.'

Kind of kills that myth that 'we can host the damn thing tomorrow/next week'.
Typical bad Guardian Journalism. They've probably only gone from the station to st james' and back as quickly as possible to return to the safety of London. Behind the Leazes end of St James' park is Leazes Park and Leazes Moor plenty of space.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...27874&t=h&z=16
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Old November 28th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #930
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Hopefully he'll be good for his word when it comes to the vote...

Fifa's Jack Warner backs England's 2018 World Cup bid

Fifa vice-president Jack Warner has said it "is England's time" to host the 2018 World Cup after meeting Prime Minister Gordon Brown in Trinidad.

Warner, who is head of the Concacaf union of North American and Caribbean football associations, had previously called England's bid "lightweight".

But he has backtracked, saying: "Brown felt England's time had come. I agreed.

"England has the best infrastructure to stage the tournament. After a 52-year gap this is England's time."

Warner's support is seen as crucial to England's hopes of winning the bid.

In his role as head of the Concacaf union, he will effectively control three of the 24 votes on Fifa's executive committee when it chooses the 2018 hosts in December next year...

Brown's comments appear to have swayed Warner who did not repeat his previous concerns about the leadership of the England bid, headed by FA chairman and Labour peer Lord Triesman.

Warner said: "It was an exceptionally good meeting - it was the best case I have heard for a long time about the World Cup being in England.

"I was very impressed by Brown's humility, his sincerity, his knowledge of the game, and most importantly he didn't feel England had any divine right (to host the tournament).

"He felt that England's time had come - a point to which I subscribed.

"Next week I will meet David Beckham in Cape Town. These are not for my ego, but they are the assets that the bid should be using and I am happy to see that they are being used."



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In other words...a bribe.
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Old November 28th, 2009, 08:02 PM   #931
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That would be rubbish if that had to happen. It works fine for the best league in the world, but not for internationals?
i'm sorry what does the bundesliga have to do with England's FIFA world cup bid...

FIFA are trying to create an image to sell their product, which is basically the world cup. To do so they want to control as many factors as possible to maximise revenue in the ways they think they can. That's why they have all these seemingly ridiculous rules. Almost all their revenue comes from the world cup and if it isn't right it will diminish that stream.

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Old November 28th, 2009, 08:06 PM   #932
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Pointless beaurocracy from UEFA. Why am I surprised...
it's hardly pointless... it's for the sponsors, everything is about money! They don't want any fans intefering with their precious advertising boards, although i've heard they claim it's to keep fans away from the pitch.

I love fans being on top of the pitch it creates a much better and more intimate atmosphere.
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Old November 28th, 2009, 10:33 PM   #933
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Europe again ??? lol...
thx.

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Old November 28th, 2009, 10:54 PM   #934
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Europe again ??? lol...
thx.
After South Africa 2010 and Brasil 2014 lol...
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Old November 28th, 2009, 11:38 PM   #935
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Europe again ??? lol...
thx.
This will be the first time ever that Europe has to wait over 8 years between two world cups. I think neither Europe or FIFA is ready to wait 16 years between two European World Cups already.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 01:37 AM   #936
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Europe again ??? lol...
thx.
well it will be Europe's turn in 2018 and lets face it without UEFA, FIFA will not survive.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 01:47 AM   #937
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I wonder what Diamond Jack got in return.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 03:05 AM   #938
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it's hardly pointless... it's for the sponsors, everything is about money! They don't want any fans intefering with their precious advertising boards, although i've heard they claim it's to keep fans away from the pitch.

I love fans being on top of the pitch it creates a much better and more intimate atmosphere.
I agree. Completely pointless from a fans point of view, but then who cares about them?!
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Old December 1st, 2009, 10:41 PM   #939
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Artists impressions of a 50k Elland Road for the world cup bid -


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In other words...a bribe.
Ah, then we've finally found a language he understands.
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Old December 1st, 2009, 10:54 PM   #940
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Bit of a dull expansion......cant believe theyre not epanding the other stand behind the goal....its a bloody shed at best!
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