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Old March 9th, 2010, 06:21 PM   #1061
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England's bid to host the 2018 World Cup has been given an injection of Gallic charm with David Ginola joining the campaign as an ambassador.


Beware, this guy could make you lose !!

Because of him we missed a world cup, and I remember very well his wrong predictions on the Brit TV about the French team during France '98 (too young and inexperienced blah blah blah)...

Anyway, thanks to you, he could finally take part at his first WC ("ambassador" is better than nothing I guess) !

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Old March 9th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #1062
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Beware, this guy could make you lose !!

Because of him we missed a world cup, and I remember very well his wrong predictions on the Brit TV about the French team during France '98 (too young and inexperienced blah blah blah)...

Anyway, thanks to you, he could finally take part at his first WC ("ambassador" is better than nothing I guess) !
didnt the coach blame him for frances failure to qualify in 94!
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Old March 9th, 2010, 07:17 PM   #1063
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Beware, this guy could make you lose !!

Because of him we missed a world cup, and I remember very well his wrong predictions on the Brit TV about the French team during France '98 (too young and inexperienced blah blah blah)...

Anyway, thanks to you, he could finally take part at his first WC ("ambassador" is better than nothing I guess) !
I know the French don't much like him, but he has a much better record in England; he's a Spurs legend. If he decides to start working for France's Euro 2016 bid as well, maybe you should worry, but having him with England 2018 is great.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #1064
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My Final 12 WC venues

London Wembley
London Emirates
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Bristol
Milton Keynes
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Liverpool
Manchester Old Trafford
Newcastle
Sunderland

Six from the North and six from the South/Midlands gives a good spread. Plymouth is unrealistic they don't have the support to warrant a 46,000 ground plus I don't think the transport connections are good enough. I included Milton Keynes for it's transport links to London and the West Midlands also Luton Airport. Only one city has two stadiums and that has to be London. If West Ham move to the Olympic stadium that could be used instead of the Emirates.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 09:39 PM   #1065
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Six from the North and six from the South/Midlands gives a good spread.
Not really, there is no stadium on the South Coast or East Anglia and only 3 in the South proper (and 2 of those are in London). More people live in the South and Midlands; heck our two largest urban centres are based there (going by metro areas London and B'ham are probably up to 17.5 million people. The counties of the North have about 14.5 million). I know Sunderland already has a stadium but I don't feel the NE warrants two venues when other places have none, especially since it isn't far from Newcastle.

As for Plymouth, it isn't that badly connected at all. You can get direct Cross Country trains to B'ham (3.5hrs), Manchester and other WCML places, not to mention Bristol and London, plus there is always the coach (The stadium could be built to 27-30,000 with a temporary stand(s) to take it to 40,000. That is what Cuiaba is doing in Brazil). England (the UK even) is a tiny country; it's smaller than NY State and will probably be the smallest WC host since, well, England in '66. I think people that live here and only go away for a 2 week annual holiday don't realise this. I remember I went up to Glasgow from London by coach and it was a 9hr ride and people were saying that’s long. It's nothing after you've been on a 24hr coach ride somewhere else. Our small size and compactness is an advantage; cheaper travel in quicker times. After 2 WC's where using a plane for domestic travel will be common for fans, FIFA might be happy that you can hop on a bus and be in most cities no more than 4-5 hrs later.

Oh and no to MK. It's a bland, weary town which is very unappealing to visitors.
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Old March 13th, 2010, 11:22 PM   #1066
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Not really, there is no stadium on the South Coast or East Anglia and only 3 in the South proper (and 2 of those are in London).
No city from the South Coast or East Anglia are on the shortlist so the FA can't pick them if they didn't apply.
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More people live in the South and Midlands; heck our two largest urban centres are based there (going by metro areas London and B'ham are probably up to 17.5 million people. The counties of the North have about 14.5 million).
50% of the Premier League teams are from the North. Also as you say most of the South's population are concentrated in two cities where as the North has more medium-large cities which make large grounds more viable. I believe FIFA has a rule that only 1 city can have 2 grounds. (I'm not sure though, could someone clarify this)
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I know Sunderland already has a stadium but I don't feel the NE warrants two venues when other places have none, especially since it isn't far from Newcastle.
As for Plymouth, it isn't that badly connected at all. You can get direct Cross Country trains to B'ham (3.5hrs), Manchester and other WCML places, not to mention Bristol and London, plus there is always the coach (The stadium could be built to 27-30,000 with a temporary stand(s) to take it to 40,000. That is what Cuiaba is doing in Brazil).
Why build temporary stands when there is a perfectly good ground in Sunderland? Also the North East has much better footballing history than a no-mark football town like Plymouth after all that's what we are selling to FIFA is football coming home and all that. Football comes home to Plymouth

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Oh and no to MK. It's a bland, weary town which is very unappealing to visitors.
MK is there as it is 30mins from both London and Birmingham so visitors wouldn't be forced to stay there plus as you say most of the population live in the London and Birmingham urban areas.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 03:57 PM   #1067
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No city from the South Coast or East Anglia are on the shortlist so the FA can't pick them if they didn't apply.
Yeah I know, I just thought that the cities you chose were what you would want regardless of the FA's shortlist. If you didn't mean that then don't worry.

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50% of the Premier League teams are from the North. Also as you say most of the South's population are concentrated in two cities where as the North has more medium-large cities which make large grounds more viable. I believe FIFA has a rule that only 1 city can have 2 grounds. (I'm not sure though, could someone clarify this)
Tbh that is irrelevant. This isn't about the PL plus who knows what the geographical spread will be in 8-12 years time. Using that logic we shouldn't have any venues based in Yorkshire proper (i.e the counties of West, North and South Yorkshire) because there are no Yorkshire clubs currently.

The South proper (excluding the midlands) has plenty of large urban areas. The S'hampton/P'mouths metro area (offically considered as one) contains over a million people. Bristol and Brighton's urban areas are within England's top 10. Bournemouth, Reading and Plymouth are over a quarter of a million. Now add the midlands to that.


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Why build temporary stands when there is a perfectly good ground in Sunderland? Also the North East has much better footballing history than a no-mark football town like Plymouth after all that's what we are selling to FIFA is football coming home and all that. Football comes home to Plymouth
Because this isn't just about stadiums is it? Geographical spread, the attraction of the cities themselves and legacy are equally important. That is why FIFA have rules in the first place otherwise hosts would just have venues in their football mad cities to save money. The latter point is important because I think a weakness of the England bid is the lack of a legacy. What will the WC leave? England has to create the argument that having the WC isn't just about offering the national side their best shot at winning the thing. Plymouth could be used as an example of regeneration, of perhaps balancing up our unbalanced football family in a geographical sense. Remember we are competing against the likes of Russia who will have a lot of legacy arguments. It is how London won 2012. Finally, you are missing the point that the NE will have a venue and I am not talking about getting rid of that. You can have your cake and eat it!

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MK is there as it is 30mins from both London and Birmingham so visitors wouldn't be forced to stay there plus as you say most of the population live in the London and Birmingham urban areas.
Err, isn't that a reason not to have it (i.e the fact it is so close to other venues)? Personally I would like to see Brighton chosen in place of MK and as the South Coast's representative. Great city which is building a modern stadium that could be expanded, good transport links, etc. Seems daft to ignore it.

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Old May 14th, 2010, 01:33 PM   #1068
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Old May 14th, 2010, 01:57 PM   #1069
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Not the fanciest of venues. Nice mix of venues. It would make sense for London to opt for two large venues i.e. Wembley and Olympic Stadium simply due to the demand for tickets.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 01:58 PM   #1070
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Not the fanciest of venues. Nice mix of venues. It would make sense for London to opt for two large venues i.e. Wembley and Olympic Stadium simply due to the demand for tickets.
The Olympic Stadium won't be a large venue in 2018.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #1071
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The Olympic Stadium won't be a large venue in 2018.
There's no conclusive proof that it will or will not be a large venue.

Even if retained at 55,000, increasing capacity temporarily to 80,000 for World Cup matches would make sense.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 08:05 PM   #1072
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fair enough, it just looks a lot closer than the allianz in those white hart lane pictures.

BTW is the yiddome expandable?
Levy said that the ground does have the option to be expanded in the future

also this is my first post but can I just say it is disgrace that Derby is not in the bid,

Considering they have plans to build a 44,000 seater stadium if they get back in to the premiership

and also the one of the people running the bid has criticised Spurs and Liverpool for not starting yet with their builds, when Nottingham's stadium does have the city's council support the proposed site however is in the county and the county council have refused planning permission and said they cant build there

This may result in the East midlands not being represented, whilst some teams will have stadiums that they will never utilise

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England 2018: A message from Rt Hon David Cameron MP, Prime Minister



David Beckham has presented England's bid to host the 2018 World Cup finals to Fifa president Sepp Blatter in Zurich.



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Old May 15th, 2010, 02:39 AM   #1074
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The biggest question is this: How would Becks pronounce this word: "chahnce"...seems like he's already pronouncing "chance" that way. Would he say it that same way?
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If worse comes to worse, at least some matches can be played at the old, mythical Anfield(even if renovated over the decades).
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Old May 16th, 2010, 09:09 AM   #1078
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england just stuffed up big time with accuasations
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Old May 16th, 2010, 11:40 AM   #1079
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Triesman has to go, now.

Stupid man, stupid journalism.
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Nice of a English newspaper to screw up our bid. Thanks for that Daily Mail, i know what paper i wont ever be buying is.
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