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Old July 4th, 2010, 03:56 AM   #1161
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No because FIFA would make them field a Great Britain team and Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland will never agree to that.
On a separate topic, Twickenham is the second largest stadium in England. Would the English Rugby authorities ever allow it to host World Cup Football games?
Probably not.

I think Emirates or the new WHL will be better for football anyway.
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Old July 6th, 2010, 04:34 AM   #1162
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 02:28 PM   #1163
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We'll do our best to host it
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ENGLAND'S World Cup 2018 bid will get total backing from the Government - and fans can help out too, Nick Clegg tells The Sun today.

AFTER the disappointment of South Africa, most people probably don't want to think about the World Cup. Others will be wondering how we might win.

Playing host may do the trick - it worked last time. But 1966 is a long time ago and by 2018, England may have endured what Baddiel and Skinner would call "52 years of hurt". That may be about to change.

Our bid team has put together a world-class proposal which the Government backs 100 per cent. I will welcome the Fifa inspection delegation to Downing Street today.

They will spend the next few days touring the country. They will be presented with a compelling case.

We are a footballmad nation, but it is not just our passion for the game that sets us apart from the other bidders. The Premier League is the best in the world, attracting the finest players. We have world-class stadiums.

We have the transport links.

And Euro 96 gives us a track-record of success. The Olympics is already coming to London in 2012 and we are proving we can organise events on this scale.

To follow that up with the World Cup would be a huge tribute to our nation. The next week is crucial to making that dream come true. I believe hosting the World Cup would be a magical month for our country, as it has been for many other host nations.

I'm urging Sun readers to play their part by going to www.england2018bid.com to sign up as a backer.

Let's leave Fifa in no doubt how much we love the sport - and what great hosts we would be. Players

Full backing ... Clegg
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 08:02 PM   #1164
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where are the England bid consultants.

They've gone and said the England bid is "unbeatable" and "we could host tomorrow".

Don't they have PR people who tell what not to say?

I am a huge supporter of England but they are their own worst enemy.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 11:31 PM   #1165
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Déjà vu much.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 07:36 AM   #1166
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where are the England bid consultants.

They've gone and said the England bid is "unbeatable" and "we could host tomorrow".

Don't they have PR people who tell what not to say?

I am a huge supporter of England but they are their own worst enemy.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 10:53 AM   #1167
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Yep. Slightly unwise comment. But the important stuff really starts today. The inspectors will be in the north east looking at the stadiums on offer there.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 11:23 AM   #1168
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where are the England bid consultants.

They've gone and said the England bid is "unbeatable" and "we could host tomorrow".

Don't they have PR people who tell what not to say?

I am a huge supporter of England but they are their own worst enemy.

Exuding some justified confidence is fair game at this point.

The 2006 bid wasn't defeated because of some overbearing English arrogance. That's mostly an invention of the British media. Indeed, walking around all meek and mild, tugging the forelock, etc, might actually put people off. It's pathetic to even suggest it, IMO.

No problems with Clegg's remarks at all.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #1169
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But you don't say you "can host tomorrow".

There quite some gap between what your typical EPL stadium provides and what FIFA requires.

Once the bid is won and this gap is closed I think they will soon see that it will actually cost money to bring many venues up to a certain standard. The venue capacity is but the tip of the iceberg.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 08:58 PM   #1170
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A few bits and bobs from the last week:

Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand and World Cup final referee Howard Webb today joined forces to impress FIFA's inspectors of the widespread support for the bid to bring the 2018 tournament to England.

Webb welcomed the six-man FIFA team to the City of Manchester Stadium before Rooney and Ferdinand joined Sir Alex Ferguson and Sir Bobby Charlton to guide them around Old Trafford - both stadiums are proposed 2018 World Cup venues - on the penultimate day of their visit.

Rooney, an official bid ambassador, said: "I believe we would be fantastic hosts. I'm hoping I'll still be at the top of my game in 2018 and would love to play World Cup football in front of a home crowd.

"It would be my last World Cup, probably, my last opportunity to play in a World Cup, and there would be no better place to be than in England - but it still seems a long way away.

"I saw Euro 96 and that was brilliant to watch and hopefully we can do better in 2018 and I can be a part of it."

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The visiting FIFA inspection team have today been shown how London's famous landmarks would be used at World Cup 2018.

The six-man group are currently in England on a four-day trip to view the infrastructure for the proposed hosts. The capital will play a key part in the event and world-famous venues along the River Thames have been highlighted to play a role if the bid was successful.

A series of proposals, including a holographic projection of a penalty shoot-out using Tower Bridge as the goal were presented earlier to the inspectors. The concepts focused on The Tower of London and other attractions which would be used for the World Cup draw.

If successful, the final selection of the draw balls in December 2017 would see the balls taken by river to the Tower of London where they could be kept overnight. Projections on the Tower would celebrate the moment while nearby Old Billingsgate would play host to FIFA’s Final Draw Banquet.

On the same night, a 3D holographic projection of a penalty shoot-out on the river is also proposed. The exterior of the 02 Arena would then be transformed into a giant football on the day of the draw.

Later on the day of the draw the official draw balls would be released from the Tower of London and accompanied by boat down the Thames. Projections on buildings along the river would then accompany the journey of the draw balls down river.









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Paul the Octopus backs England 2018

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Old August 25th, 2010, 09:04 PM   #1171
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But Paul didn't make a choice .
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Old August 27th, 2010, 12:48 PM   #1172
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But Paul didn't make a choice .
Paul is just loyal..hes from England(weymouth)
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Old August 27th, 2010, 12:52 PM   #1173
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I think that's a great little PR stunt personally. We need to get him involved in our final presentation to FIFA methinks. Never mind the stadiums, the infrastructure, the economics, we have Paul and Paul is never wrong

FIFA have praised the bid with a note of caution regarding the amount of accommodation (presumably this only applies to the smaller cities). Platini, meanwhile, is worried that the ongoing search for a new Head of the FA may hamper our chances. I can see his point, but I can also see that being a rather convenient excuse if it comes to it. I think the Triesman debacle, at least, is finally behind us now the inspection has gone smoothly. Too close to call at the moment.
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Old August 27th, 2010, 02:41 PM   #1174
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The idea for the WC draw sounds fantastic
Theres no doubt England would host a great world cup.
It is just amazing the competition for these 2 WC s
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Old August 27th, 2010, 03:27 PM   #1175
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i havent seen platini's remarks get spun into being made out as some sort of anti English rant... yet. either the quality of our journos has improved dramatically or they're running a bit slow. anyway heres one take on the inspection.


A Thomas Hemy painting of a Sunderland v Aston Villa match in 1895 that hangs in the lobby of the Stadium of Light. Photograph: Stadium of Light

Fifa's World Cup bid inspectors have left town for Spain, where they will observe an object way more dazzling than Wembley or a Premier League hospitality box. In Russia it was the Kremlin, where Vladimir Putin played host, and in Madrid next week the World Cup trophy won in South Africa will be on show. First, though, the six took a look at a painting in Sunderland that may yet influence the world governing body's 24-man executive committee when it votes on 2 December to decide the venues for 2018 and 2022.

"Influence" may be too strong, because those verdicts will be shaped by the usual back-room deals. Politics, not pouting, determines where the event goes next. But as the Fifa tour of Premier League opulence ended in Manchester, it was plain that the virtues the bid organisers have tended to play down for fear of sounding arrogant might still work in their favour if Russia, Spain-Portugal and Holland-Belgium are rejected for 2018 in what is expected to be a face-off between four European bids.

Thomas Hemy's atmospheric oil of a match between Sunderland and Aston Villa in 1895 hangs in the lobby of the Stadium of Light and caught the eye of Harold Mayne-Nicholls, the president of Chile's FA and head of the Fifa delegation. Mayne-Nicholls veered from the usually prosaic tone of closing statements to say Hemy's painting had offered his team "a clear impression of what football has meant since those early days as part of England's history."

An inventor's bond with the game was worked to death in the doomed bid to stage the 2006 tournament but this time nostalgia has not been self-detonating. When Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, described the English candidacy as "unbeatable" there were gasps. Clegg, a confused refugee of Thatcherism, spoke from a vanished age before the Football Association was taught humiliating lessons in Fifa politics and England found their nadir on the pitch.

With the new humility, the English game now frames its bid as a service to humanity. "It is estimated that one billion people will be reached by a range of innovative legacy programmes inspired by a Fifa World Cup in England," runs its bid document blurb. The proposed Football United fund for football and social programmes could be described as a system of philanthropic inducements to ensure the return of football's greatest carnival for the first time since 1966.

With the bookmakers shortening England's odds to beat Russia in a likely showdown, Mayne-Nicholls said: "We are positive that a World Cup in England in 2018 or 2022 would be a great experience with a long-lasting legacy for the country and its people, as well as for football worldwide. It was great to see that all of the clubs are running big social projects, trying to involve as many youngsters from disadvantaged backgrounds as possible."

Two other minor faux pas were the failure to invite the inspectors to Manchester City v Liverpool on Monday night and the prime minister's absence at the meet-and-greet in Downing Street. Here Mayne-Nicholls was almost obsequious. He said: "From our perspective, it was definitely not necessary to attend a Premier League game to experience the passion and dedication of all those famous members of the UK football family. This is for sure one thing we positively comment on in our report for the Fifa executive committee.

"And, of course, one of the people behind the bid is the prime minister, David Cameron, and we would like to congratulate him, his wife Samantha and his family on the birth of their baby girl. Fifa is a family, too, and we fully understand why he could not be with us. The prime minister took the right decision. Family is the most important thing in life, of course, more important than football. And that is a lesson forever."

While the tears dried, Fifa inspectors gave ticks for "public transportation and event facilities" and said there were no concerns on "safety or security" – but delivered a warning on hotels. "One thing Fifa particularly focuses on is accommodation, as we need a very high number of quality rooms," Mayne-Nicholls said. "This is why we ask all bidders for a certain number of contracted hotel rooms. We trust that you will be able to fulfil the necessary requirements." England officials said this was a "technical formality" to do with rack rates that would be resolved in negotiations with the big chains.

Andy Anson, the bid's chief executive, told the inspectors: "Everywhere you have gone you have seen football alive and thriving in England. You've heard how two million people have now officially registered to support England 2018 – supporters from 170 countries around the globe." Anson claimed England will guarantee world football "a legacy that lasts for generations and benefits millions of people worldwide – in each of Fifa's 208 member associations."

Nice legacy, great stadiums, shame about the England team, might be one way of summarising this visit, with 97 days to go. Anson, though, is adamant the subject of England's mortification in South Africa never arose: "No, they had a fantastic conversation with Fabio Capello. To have Fabio Capello take them round Wembley – and show them the fantastic playing surface – was one of the most enjoyable moments of the week." Not as enjoyable, one assumes, as taking the same stroll in Spain, home of the World Cup.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...p-england-2018
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am i wrong, or are you only allowed 2 host stadiums from each city?
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Not necessarily, and besides, these are just options for FIFA should they choose us. If England wins, the list will likely be cut down.
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Old August 27th, 2010, 09:12 PM   #1179
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Not necessarily, and besides, these are just options for FIFA should they choose us. If England wins, the list will likely be cut down.
oh ok, cuz that was the rule for EURO, you couldnt have more than 2 stadiums in the same city.
i think england got the 2018 wc, it already has most of the infrastructure and racism in the stadiums is zero to none.
before england made the bid, FIFA President Sepp Blatter said he would welcome a 2018 bid from "the homeland of football."
i really think they are going to give it to england no problem.
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Nah, this is really close. England is undoubtedly the safe option but that doesn't mean FIFA will think it's the best. Subtle but important difference.
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