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Old May 29th, 2008, 06:42 PM   #121
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The south does not need replacing at Hillsborough.

Hillsborough is more, as i'd call it - English.

It's not a bowl stadium, it is modern in lots of parts thanks to the refurbishment from floods. Although it has a long way to be 100% modern, unlike Brammal lane it has character. Does the FA want unique stadiums or do they want all these bowls?
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Old May 29th, 2008, 07:55 PM   #122
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Both the North and South Stands at Hillsborough are in pretty decent shape. A realistic development of the stadium could well see the East and West Stands rebuilt like the North Stand and having the North corners filled in. Perhaps another 1,000 or so seats could be squeezed out of the South corners but fully enclosing them isn't immediately realisible because of the 'goal post' roof supports of the South Stand. Realistically, capacity wouldn't increase drastically. Perhaps a final capacity of 42,000 - 45,000 would be most realistic?

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I think one of the major issues about Bramall Lane is that the Bramall Lane and John Street Stands are totally limited by roads, in terms of being redeveloped. There is space to develop the Kop and South Stands but I'd say Hillsborough could well represent a more feasible development as there is basically the needed space for my above redevelopment.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 08:31 PM   #123
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And what about those other candidates? The Benelux (only the Netherlands and Belgium) for example.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 08:36 PM   #124
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I believe the Benelux bid is being discussed here and a general thread on this matter can be found here
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Old May 29th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #125
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Current Hillsborough, as you can see you can't really extend the South because of the river. However you can extend far back to one side of the Kop, the north can be extended and the Leppings Lane end can be to some extent.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 11:42 PM   #126
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Based upon that Map I would only see it reasonable to let the whole country reap benefits from the world cup, unlike london with the Olyimpics [pardon my spelling].

So I'd go for:
London: The 2 newer stadiums at the time - Max for one city is 2 stadiums under rules but rules can change. I hope they don't.

South West: Bristol - a new stadium obviously needed. For tourism purposes, and tourism purposes only - to up returning visitors - A stadium around the Bath area.
South: Pompey and Southampton.

Now, this is where it gets interesting as the number of clubs rapidly increases in this area.

The Midlands:
Aston Villa and Birmingham would be ideal.
Nottingham and if needed, Leicester could come into the frame - The stadiums need a lot of work at the moment though.

Yorkshire:
Sheffield. Now here it will get heated, what club - in footballs birth place - will host the world cup if the Uk is choosen? At the moment do you go for Hillsborough, or The Lane? Or do you consider the future and how Hillsborough could be modernised as at the moment, despite being an owl, the Lane is better and more modern, despite being smaller.
Then you have Hull or Leeds. I'd pick Hull due to the fact they are close to the sea and well, are a port. A lot better transport than Leeds.

Heading West..
Liverpool (new stadium) and Manchester United would be good enough.

Heading North east..
Newcastle needs some work doing to it, but if Sunderland become more stable in the Premiership, they could have a really good shout.


Hello all, i have been reading this forum for a while and have now felt the need to post.


Putting a stadium in the Bath area would be a bigger waste of money than the O2 arena was before being converted.

Bristol City have already announced plans for a 30,000 seater stadium that will be expandale to 40,000 should England win the rights to host the World cup.

The first renders of this stadium will be available to see within the next couple of months.

Having a stadium on Bath would be a waste of time and money as after the World cup it would not be used ( unless Bristol Rovers wanted to move in).
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Old May 30th, 2008, 12:18 AM   #127
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Hello all, i have been reading this forum for a while and have now felt the need to post.


Putting a stadium in the Bath area would be a bigger waste of money than the O2 arena was before being converted.

Bristol City have already announced plans for a 30,000 seater stadium that will be expandale to 40,000 should England win the rights to host the World cup.

The first renders of this stadium will be available to see within the next couple of months.

Having a stadium on Bath would be a waste of time and money as after the World cup it would not be used ( unless Bristol Rovers wanted to move in).
I quite agree with you, a World Cup stadium in Bath would be a waste of money. Maybe for a future Rugby Union World Cup as its a Rugby city, but not for football. However there should be a stadium in Bristol as it is a large English city and the South West should be represented.

To Neil F, I enjoyed reading your earlier posts in this thread. It would be great if we could use the largest stadiums in the UK for a 2018 bid, and it would certainly on paper put us ahead of any other European bids. With regards to Old Traffords potential capacity being larger then Wembley, if this were the case I think Old Trafford should be used as the opening match stadium. I can't see the FA holding the World Cup final anywhere else besides Wembley.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 12:40 PM   #128
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Its such a shame that Wolverhampton is a shit hole and that its so close to Brum. New Molineux would be a fine stadium to host and famous.
i love you ha ha

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Old May 30th, 2008, 01:04 PM   #129
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No city/area/stadium has any divine right to host world cup matches should England's bid be successful. Whether it's the 'birthplace of football' or has some other historical significance means absolutley FA.

The venues will be chosen on capacity, quality, safety, transport links, other facilities, etc. And hopefully it will be ensured that 'football cities/towns' are chosen as the last thing we want is a primarily Rugby loving area hosting a football world cup game.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 02:12 PM   #130
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I doubt that Sheffield will be missed out, purely because its the birth place of football.
There is so much wrong with that statement I don't even know where to begin!

Football (in the generic sense of the word) has been around for several hundred years as a pastime played on holy days, and for a couple of hundred years in public schools, from where it expanded to universities and then to clubs formed by people who wanted to keep playing as adults. Association football was born in the 1860s from combining similar versions of the game played in various public schools into an agreed set of rules.

Sheffield's claim to fame is that it has the oldest club in the world now playing association football, but it was founded many years after football (in the generic sense) had been around, and several years before association football was invented - Sheffield FC played its own version, known as Sheffield Rules, and didn't start playing soccer until 1878.

Birthplace? Think not.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 02:54 PM   #131
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The Sheffield Rules are the Rules we use today in football. Sheffield FC started club football.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 03:02 PM   #132
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So why did Sheffield FC have to switch to the rules the rest of the Football Association was playing under?
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Old May 30th, 2008, 03:05 PM   #133
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Sheffield FC switched over along with Hallam FC to the Sheffield Rules, whose rules were adopted by the FA.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 03:21 PM   #134
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Er, no.

The Sheffield Rules were invented by Sheffield FC in 1857. At the time every school and club came up with its own rules, but Sheffield were successful in getting other clubs in the North to adopt theirs. Cambridge University had tried unifying the different codes in 1848 without much success, but when the Football Association was founded in 1863, a firm set of rules was established. After remaining independent for several years, Sheffield, Hallam and other clubs switched from Sheffield Rules to the FA's rules.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:05 PM   #135
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Very beautifull and classic stadium there in Sheffield. This one is from United no?
These kind of stadiums represent English football for me, I say with almost nostalgic tears in my eyes...
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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:07 PM   #136
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skaP187 - the pictures I posted are of Sheffield Wednesday's stadium, Hillsborough.
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I was allready afraid and took the risc... thanks for correcting me.
Wasn´t it this stadium that has/had one stand which was strange with one stand going diagonal upwords, behind a goal or something?
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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:46 PM   #138
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This is the kop of Hillsborough.



Is that the stand you are on about?
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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:56 PM   #139
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No I am sorry, it was going something (...) like this.

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Old May 30th, 2008, 04:58 PM   #140
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No Sheffield stands like that.

You must be thinking of the wrong city!
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