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Old November 30th, 2010, 12:14 AM   #1601
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Well they shouldn't have tried to sell black market tickets then should they? Or accepted kickbacks? For feck's sake, if allegations against some MPs came out and were aired the night before a vote in Parliament we wouldn't be hounding the BBC. Why should this unelected clique, many of whom are criminals, expect special treatment from our media?

This really angers me. So the BBC are going to take the blame if England lose and FIFA will carry on doing "business" as normal, is that it? Because of FIFA's untouchability and total unaccountability we end up with a perverse situation where an organisation proved to be as corrupt as the night is long gets off scot free, whilst the BBC, for exposing them, is hounded. Is that how things are supposed to work?

Well, count me out Archie. I'm not sure I want a world cup in this country if it means getting into bed with FIFA and changing the way our media works to accommodate their criminality. It's not as though we need a world cup to continue being one of the biggest footballing nations on earth. FIFA needs us on their side far more than we need them. It's about time we showed them that, and tonight's documentary was as good a start as any.


Very well said.

Much as I would like England to host the 2018 World Cup, it is far more important that pressure is relentlessly brought to bear on FIFA until they become an open and fair organisation, free from rampant corruption.
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I was out-voted on the TV front in favour of Miranda Hart rather than Panorama - how was it?
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Damn I feel bad for England, both Russia and England have good bids, but i think i would have prefferred England"s bid. Oh well Russia 2018.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 01:20 AM   #1604
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FIFA is worse than most despotic regimes. Now they won't have an impartial look at England's bid and vote based on its merits but instead Jack Warner and his gang of thieves are pissed off because an independent tv station dared to expose their lying, corrupt ways.

Sepp Blatter is scum. Always has been always will be. Try to keep him as far away from your country as possible.
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Why are our Government shamelessly doing business with those who are allegedly involved in corruption, or at the very least appear to be condoning corruption?

Any other public related body would be in serious hot water if they even attempted to enter into a contract of any kind without carrying out due dilligence beforehand. Surely EU rules on procurement have an implication somewhere.

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Why South Africa's empty World Cup stadiums could boost England's 2018 bid


Do Fifa want to risk a stampede from another herd of white elephants?




In May 2004, Fifa announced that South Africa would host the 2010 World Cup. A delegation led by former president Nelson Mandela erupted in celebration.

Amidst a a few voices of concern about the country's alarming crime rate, HIV/Aids problems and wealth inequality, the decision was largely met with acclaim.

The nation's journey from being the pariah of the sporting world to hosting the World Cup filled us all with hope and optimism.

Six years on and 22 Fifa executive committee members are set to decide where the 2018 and 2022 World Cups will be held.

This small group of middle-aged men have the power to make a decision that will impact on millions of lives - and lead to the expenditure of billions.

Fresh in their memory will be the 2010 World Cup which has been deemed both a success and a failure depending on who you speak to and how they define what makes a World Cup successful.

As a spectacle some would argue South Africa 2010 was a failure. With the noisy drone of vuvuzelas suppressing the cheers and jeers of the crowd it was certainly not a treat for the ears.

Moreover the low-scoring opening matches and a series of superstars that failed to light up the tournament also fuels the belief that South Africa 2010 was not a vintage World Cup.

But giving the World Cup to South Africa was never about providing the optimum conditions for Lionel Messi to dazzle and nor was it about convenience for the core football market of Europe.

The decision to award the World Cup to Africa in the first place was all about taking football into a new market and creating a legacy that will benefit a whole continent.

So perhaps the true barometer of whether World Cup 2010 delivered the goods is to ascertain whether there are any signs of that legacy in South Africa today.

South Africa spent a whopping 38 billion rand (£3.7 billion) on stadiums and infrastructure to realise the vision of Africa's first World Cup.

But what happened after Spain, the tournament's winners, packed up their boots and got on the plane back to Madrid?

For Neal Collins, a South African-born author and journalist, Fifa have left behind them a shameful legacy of empty stadiums.

"The white elephants - 10 magnificent football stadiums lying empty and unused - serve as a constant reminder of the expensive legacy of the Fifa World Cup," says Collins.

The World Cup stadiums in the northern cities of Polokwane and Nelspruit lie empty and seem doomed to remain so for many years to come.

Collins says: "In Polokwane, the new Peter Mokabe stadium, capacity 45,000, sits unused next to the old Peter Mokabe stadium, capacity 20,000, which was quite suitable for South Africa’s northernmost city. In rural Nelspruit, the Mbombela Stadium has no suitors. Neither city has a side in the local Premier League."

In Durban the Moses Mabhida stadium was recently snubbed by neighbouring rugby team the Sharks as its operators searched for a new tenant, whilst cricket bosses are unhappy that the playing areas of all the new stadiums are too small for their sport.

Soccer City in Johannesburg served as the flagship stadium of the World Cup and largest sports venue in Africa. The 95,000 seater venue underwent a £300 million renovation before the World Cup and costs around £250,000 a month to maintain.

It is regarded as the de facto national stadium for the South African football team but other than the occasional derbies between local rivals Kaizer Chiefs and the Orlando Pirates, the stadium has struggled to generate post World Cup revenue.

The 2010 World Cup organising committee chief Danny Jordaan wants to turn the venue, which under its previous guise as the FNB Stadium hosted Nelson Mandela's first speech following his release from prison, into a tourist attraction.

He said this week: "What do we offer the many tourists who come to the venue where Spanish soccer recorded its finest hour? They come to see the stadium where their team conquered the globe and we offer them nothing. All they can do is just sit on the stands, pose for a picture and that's it.

"Why don't we sell them a Spain or a Bafana jersey, a tiny piece of the pitch, a meal, the 2010 World Cup memorabilia?"

Should south-west Johannesburg and the township of Soweto not take off as a tourist destination for Spanish fans, the future of Soccer City, which is currently at the centre of a naming dispute over whether it must revert to being called FNB Stadium, is clouded in uncertainty.

A concert announced by Irish rockers U2 for February 2011 offers some hope that music could fill the void but a coherent plan on how to make the mammoth venue profitable remains elusive.

Meanwhile in South Africa's legislative capital, Cape Town's Green Point stadium, which hosted England's second group match against Algeria, hosts the odd Ajax Cape Town football match, luring an average of 7,000 supporters to the venue which has a capacity of 55,000 (reduced from 64,000) after the World Cup.

In rugby-loving Cape Town the best hope the stadium's owners have is to lure the union team, the Stormers, away from the Newlands Rugby Stadium. But with Western Province - another rugby team saying no thanks, it is unlikely the Stormers will fill the void.

Cape Town tourism's PR manager Sky Grove insists the stadium has a bright future: "Cape Town Stadium has not become a white elephant since the end of the World Cup.

"Most recently it has been used for the Nelson Mandela Challenge where Bafana Bafana played the USA, and in addition has been used for other sporting and spiritual events.

"There is already a line-up of music, entertainment and sporting events planned for 2011."

Grove says that the World Cup benefited Cape Town by fast-tracking much needed improvements to infrastructure.

"We have a new state-of-the-art airport, an upgraded City station, an affordable airport shuttle, more security cameras and specialist police training around hosting mega-events. An entire area, known as the stadium precinct, was created, complete with a green park."

However, she adds: "It is too early to measure the long-term economic benefit of the World Cup. The direct, short term benefits were not as great as initially perceived but there could be several reasons for this, including the fact that the world was in the throes of an economic depression.

"There are already sentiments to suggest that it is more economically viable to focus on a greater spread of smaller events across a number of trades, disciplines and areas of interest, than to focus on attracting other large events in the future."

Should the site of an empty Soccer City, which served as such a magnificent venue for the opening and closing ceremonies and matches of the 2010 World Cup, rest on the conscience of any Fifa Executive Committee members then it is hard to imagine how front-runners Russia, who have pledged to build eight new stadiums, can seem such a desirable option.

Fifa likes to use the World Cup to spark new markets for the game in areas that could do with such as boost. They want to grow the global game by taking it to every corner of the planet.

But in places such as Russia - where the average attendances for the top division (12,500) fall below those in the Scottish Premier League - spending billions on stadiums and infrastructure would be another massive gamble.

Brazil in 2014 will likely lead to the creation of another herd of white elephants - four host cities, Manaus, Brasilia, Cuiabá and Natal, do not have a club in the country's top three divisions.

Another World Cup leading to another cluster of empty stadiums in a country with high unemployment and wealth discrepancies will only lead to more criticism for Fifa and Brazil's football authorities.

Those executive committee members with the foresight to see that might just feel that England's "ready to host the World Cup tomorrow" factor is not just the safest option for 2018. It's the only viable one too.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3541/...ms-could-boost
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Why South Africa's empty World Cup stadiums could boost England's 2018 bid


Do Fifa want to risk a stampede from another herd of white elephants?




In May 2004, Fifa announced that South Africa would host the 2010 World Cup. A delegation led by former president Nelson Mandela erupted in celebration.

Amidst a a few voices of concern about the country's alarming crime rate, HIV/Aids problems and wealth inequality, the decision was largely met with acclaim.

The nation's journey from being the pariah of the sporting world to hosting the World Cup filled us all with hope and optimism.

Six years on and 22 Fifa executive committee members are set to decide where the 2018 and 2022 World Cups will be held.

This small group of middle-aged men have the power to make a decision that will impact on millions of lives - and lead to the expenditure of billions.

Fresh in their memory will be the 2010 World Cup which has been deemed both a success and a failure depending on who you speak to and how they define what makes a World Cup successful.

As a spectacle some would argue South Africa 2010 was a failure. With the noisy drone of vuvuzelas suppressing the cheers and jeers of the crowd it was certainly not a treat for the ears.

Moreover the low-scoring opening matches and a series of superstars that failed to light up the tournament also fuels the belief that South Africa 2010 was not a vintage World Cup.

But giving the World Cup to South Africa was never about providing the optimum conditions for Lionel Messi to dazzle and nor was it about convenience for the core football market of Europe.

The decision to award the World Cup to Africa in the first place was all about taking football into a new market and creating a legacy that will benefit a whole continent.

So perhaps the true barometer of whether World Cup 2010 delivered the goods is to ascertain whether there are any signs of that legacy in South Africa today.

South Africa spent a whopping 38 billion rand (£3.7 billion) on stadiums and infrastructure to realise the vision of Africa's first World Cup.

But what happened after Spain, the tournament's winners, packed up their boots and got on the plane back to Madrid?

For Neal Collins, a South African-born author and journalist, Fifa have left behind them a shameful legacy of empty stadiums.

"The white elephants - 10 magnificent football stadiums lying empty and unused - serve as a constant reminder of the expensive legacy of the Fifa World Cup," says Collins.

The World Cup stadiums in the northern cities of Polokwane and Nelspruit lie empty and seem doomed to remain so for many years to come.

Collins says: "In Polokwane, the new Peter Mokabe stadium, capacity 45,000, sits unused next to the old Peter Mokabe stadium, capacity 20,000, which was quite suitable for South Africa’s northernmost city. In rural Nelspruit, the Mbombela Stadium has no suitors. Neither city has a side in the local Premier League."

In Durban the Moses Mabhida stadium was recently snubbed by neighbouring rugby team the Sharks as its operators searched for a new tenant, whilst cricket bosses are unhappy that the playing areas of all the new stadiums are too small for their sport.

Soccer City in Johannesburg served as the flagship stadium of the World Cup and largest sports venue in Africa. The 95,000 seater venue underwent a £300 million renovation before the World Cup and costs around £250,000 a month to maintain.

It is regarded as the de facto national stadium for the South African football team but other than the occasional derbies between local rivals Kaizer Chiefs and the Orlando Pirates, the stadium has struggled to generate post World Cup revenue.

The 2010 World Cup organising committee chief Danny Jordaan wants to turn the venue, which under its previous guise as the FNB Stadium hosted Nelson Mandela's first speech following his release from prison, into a tourist attraction.

He said this week: "What do we offer the many tourists who come to the venue where Spanish soccer recorded its finest hour? They come to see the stadium where their team conquered the globe and we offer them nothing. All they can do is just sit on the stands, pose for a picture and that's it.

"Why don't we sell them a Spain or a Bafana jersey, a tiny piece of the pitch, a meal, the 2010 World Cup memorabilia?"

Should south-west Johannesburg and the township of Soweto not take off as a tourist destination for Spanish fans, the future of Soccer City, which is currently at the centre of a naming dispute over whether it must revert to being called FNB Stadium, is clouded in uncertainty.

A concert announced by Irish rockers U2 for February 2011 offers some hope that music could fill the void but a coherent plan on how to make the mammoth venue profitable remains elusive.

Meanwhile in South Africa's legislative capital, Cape Town's Green Point stadium, which hosted England's second group match against Algeria, hosts the odd Ajax Cape Town football match, luring an average of 7,000 supporters to the venue which has a capacity of 55,000 (reduced from 64,000) after the World Cup.

In rugby-loving Cape Town the best hope the stadium's owners have is to lure the union team, the Stormers, away from the Newlands Rugby Stadium. But with Western Province - another rugby team saying no thanks, it is unlikely the Stormers will fill the void.

Cape Town tourism's PR manager Sky Grove insists the stadium has a bright future: "Cape Town Stadium has not become a white elephant since the end of the World Cup.

"Most recently it has been used for the Nelson Mandela Challenge where Bafana Bafana played the USA, and in addition has been used for other sporting and spiritual events.

"There is already a line-up of music, entertainment and sporting events planned for 2011."

Grove says that the World Cup benefited Cape Town by fast-tracking much needed improvements to infrastructure.

"We have a new state-of-the-art airport, an upgraded City station, an affordable airport shuttle, more security cameras and specialist police training around hosting mega-events. An entire area, known as the stadium precinct, was created, complete with a green park."

However, she adds: "It is too early to measure the long-term economic benefit of the World Cup. The direct, short term benefits were not as great as initially perceived but there could be several reasons for this, including the fact that the world was in the throes of an economic depression.

"There are already sentiments to suggest that it is more economically viable to focus on a greater spread of smaller events across a number of trades, disciplines and areas of interest, than to focus on attracting other large events in the future."

Should the site of an empty Soccer City, which served as such a magnificent venue for the opening and closing ceremonies and matches of the 2010 World Cup, rest on the conscience of any Fifa Executive Committee members then it is hard to imagine how front-runners Russia, who have pledged to build eight new stadiums, can seem such a desirable option.

Fifa likes to use the World Cup to spark new markets for the game in areas that could do with such as boost. They want to grow the global game by taking it to every corner of the planet.

But in places such as Russia - where the average attendances for the top division (12,500) fall below those in the Scottish Premier League - spending billions on stadiums and infrastructure would be another massive gamble.

Brazil in 2014 will likely lead to the creation of another herd of white elephants - four host cities, Manaus, Brasilia, Cuiabá and Natal, do not have a club in the country's top three divisions.

Another World Cup leading to another cluster of empty stadiums in a country with high unemployment and wealth discrepancies will only lead to more criticism for Fifa and Brazil's football authorities.

Those executive committee members with the foresight to see that might just feel that England's "ready to host the World Cup tomorrow" factor is not just the safest option for 2018. It's the only viable one too.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3541/...ms-could-boost

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1. 10 magnificent football stadiums lying empty and unused:

Half of the venues were existing and already in good use. If Loftus or Ellis Park etc. are standing empty its because the rugby season is sort of over, its now sevens in George, and rugby/football will use them as needed.


Soccer City has regularly been hosting events and has sold out a few times alreayd. Cape Town was sold out for the Bafana Clash, sold out for U2, and has other concerts planned, conferences back to back last week.

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Travel Corporation Gala
Bridal Fair
Jewish Conference Event
Design Indaba Gala
Cell C Launch
Heck, even Mbombela and Polokwane now have deals to host Premier League matches.

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Mpumalanga Black Aces will today sign a contract with the Mbombela municipality to use the stadium for category 'A' matches coming up in the next few months.

KickOff.com has learnt that the contract will be signed at the stadium at 11h15 this morning.

The games in question are as follows:

Black Aces vs. Kaizer Chiefs – December 22 -19h30
Black Aces vs. Bloem. Celtic – January 14 – 20h00
Black Aces vs. Orlando Pirates – February 6 – 15h30
Black Aces vs. Mamelodi Sundowns – March 2 – 19h30
Black Aces vs. Moroka Swallows – May 21 – 15h00

Meanwhile, Amazayoni’s new home and away kit will also be on display.

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SuperSport United and Mamelodi Sundowns look set to make the Peter Mokaba Stadium their home when they participate in Confederation of African Football (CAF) fixtures.

The Polokwane venue has seen very little action since hosting World Cup matches, mainly down to the fact that there are no Premier Soccer League clubs based in the area.

Matsatsantsa have already penned a deal to feature at the stadium, while The Brazilians are said to be in the final stages of negotiations.

Ndavhe Ramakuela, a member of the Polokwane municipality, told The Sowetan: "We have an agreement with SuperSport United and are still talking with Sundowns."

Many had feared that the Peter Mokaba Stadium, along with the Mbombela and Nelson Mandela Bay stadia, would become white elephants after the global showpiece, but initiatives like these are starting to change those opinions.

It is also a boost for the sport in the Limpopo province as there is little professional football on offer in the region.

The two Tshwane clubs will play against the cream of African football when the competition starts, making these exciting times for those in and around the Polokwane area.

Football365.co.za
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This image is from BEFORE the World Cup




AFTER the World Cup:

SA vs NZ Tri Nations match - SOLD OUT


Telkom Charity Cup - SOLD OUT

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August 7 2010 at 03:21pm

A record 87,000 spectators filed into Johannesburg's Soccer City stadium for South Africa's season-opening Charity Cup on Saturday, less than a month after the arena hosted the World Cup final.
The country's Premier Soccer League (PSL) said it had sold 80,000 seats for the one-day tournament, which features four teams in three separate matches, and handed out a further 7,000 complimentary tickets.

Orlando Pirates vs FS Stars PSL match

Both legs of the Chiefs-Pirates MTN 8 semi final

Ghana vs. South Africa: 50,000

Soweto Derby - SOLD OUT

U2 - Almost SOLD OUT (Largest stop on their current world tour)

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Tickets to U2’s two concerts in South Africa have all but sold out only hours after going on sale.
The band will play at the FNB and Cape Town stadiums in February as part of their 360° Tour. It will be their first visit to South Africa since their PopMart Tour in 1998.
Tickets ranging from R161 to a special Red Zone at R2 568 went on sale yesterday at 9am.
By 7am Computicket reported having 17 000 users camping on the website. At 9am the website crashed from the surge of hopeful buyers, said Big Concerts chief financial officer Justin van Wyk.
But within 25 minutes of the website coming back up, more than 25 percent of the tickets had been sold.
The FNB Stadium in Gauteng can accommodate close to 100 000 ticket holders while Cape Town Stadium can hold almost 70 000 fans.
Chiefs vs. Pirates: November 2010






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TELKOM KNOCKOUT CUP TICKETS SOLD OUT

Tickets for the Telkom Knockout Final, Orlando Pirates vs Kaizer Chiefs, set for Soccer City next weekend are sold out.

The last tickets sold, ranging between R40 and R60, were snapped up before 12 midnight on Friday.

However, despite the tickets being sold out there is still hope for soccer fans who want to make way to the FNB Stadium on December 4, as the PSL has announced that the suite tickets reserved for local football lovers are still available.

The tickets cost R230 for the non-catering suites, while fans will fork out R750 for limited-catering suites.

Tickets are available at Shoprite/Checkers and Computicket outlets around the country.

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I'm not sure what the facts are Mo, I trust what you are telling me is the truth, but the article is really trying to fry FIFA for being utter knobs, not the other way around.
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Join us at the Scoop for the FIFA World Cup 2018 Announcement

No reminder needed that England is in the race to host the FIFA World Cup 2018 and the announcement this Thursday will mark the final milestone in the England bid.

Fans are invited to join the excitement right here in London with a free, live event and public screening of the decision which will take place in the
The Scoop next to City Hall with the iconic Tower Bridge as the backdrop.

As well as the public screening of the announcement from Zurich, the Mayor is putting on a celebration of the ‘beautiful game’ with a whole range of performers including the Street Utd artists performing freestyle soccer, beat boxers, DJs, street dancers and more.

The fun kicks off at 2.30pm, with the announcement expected between 3.00-7.00pm. Entry is free and on a first come, first served basis. In this cold weather please make sure you wrap up warm if you are coming along!

Share this page with your friends and get down to The Scoop on Thursday for what we hope is going to be a huge celebration!

FIFA World Cup 2018 Announcement at The Scoop

Date: Thursday, 2nd December 2010

Time: 2.30pm – 3.00pm

Entry: free on a first come, first served basis

Venue:

The Scoop
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David Beckham has signed the official British Airways aircraft at Terminal 5 today, to support England's bid to host the 2018 Fifa World Cup.

BA is the official airline of the England 2018 bid and flies the team to Zurich today to hear Fifa announce the host nation on Thursday (2 December).

Beckham's signature sits alongside hundreds of names collected on an electronic board in Heathrow’s Terminal 5 during August's Back the Bid week.

The signatures include Rio Ferdinand, Fabio Capello, Bobby Zamora, Daniel Sturridge, Ray Clemence, Trevor Brooking, Gary Lineker, Stuart Pearce and Andy Anson.

Beckham said: "I'm extremely proud to be flying to Zurich to represent the England 2018 bid, and to be travelling with the hopes of the nation on this official aircraft.

"I hope that the next time I'm on British soil, I'll be with the winning England 2018 bid team."

BA will also fly the prime minister David Cameron and the culture minister Jeremy Hunt to Zurich as part of the bid.
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Beckham said: "I'm extremely proud to be flying to Zurich to represent the England 2018 bid, and to be travelling with the hopes of the nation on this official aircraft.

"I hope that the next time I'm on British soil, I'll be with the winning England 2018 bid team."
I hope so too, if it means seeing the back of him for another 12 or 24 years.
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I hope so too, if it means seeing the back of him for another 12 or 24 years.
lets just be glad that England has a person of the caliber of Beckham to lead the bid, imagine if he wasn't there, who would be sent instead? He has kept his life together unlike so many of England's footballers and he should be applauded for that alone.
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Lets hope we get this World Cup.

Anyone think SJP has a chance of being a venue for games after the group stages if we do win?
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FIFA looked dodgy mcdodge in that doco, corruption should be exposed and stamped out but at the same time that doco has killed Englands chances, you reckon the rest of the upstanding members of the board will want 8 years of that sort of scrutiny, don't bet on it.

The beeb effectively killed the bid, some would call it unpatriotic in it's timing, I'd have to agree, though I think the doco should be seen and heard. I think though that the Beeb knew it would sink the bid and thats self centred on their part considering it's not the English that are at fault here. If FIFA is the target then the Beeb took out an innocent party as well, massive collateral damage, so that was a poor decision and a poor outcome on the Beeb's part.
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1. Goal.com is an unreliable source for info.

2. The UK bid, and press in general, would do well not to take pot shots at a very successful world cup in order to inflate theirs. If it wasn't for the horns, the 2010 world cup would have been hands down the best ever.

3. MysteryMike, I know you didn't write that, but that was a bit low IMO.
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3. MysteryMike, I know you didn't write that, but that was a bit low IMO.
Perhaps you would like to have a chat to Amar Singh from goal, instead of myself, as I said I don't believe it was really a pot shot at any nation, it was a pot shot at FIFA for pushing nations into unrequired expenditures for their benefit and simply leaving afterwards.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 04:04 AM   #1619
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FIFA looked dodgy mcdodge in that doco, corruption should be exposed and stamped out but at the same time that doco has killed Englands chances, you reckon the rest of the upstanding members of the board will want 8 years of that sort of scrutiny, don't bet on it.

The beeb effectively killed the bid, some would call it unpatriotic in it's timing, I'd have to agree, though I think the doco should be seen and heard. I think though that the Beeb knew it would sink the bid and thats self centred on their part considering it's not the English that are at fault here. If FIFA is the target then the Beeb took out an innocent party as well, massive collateral damage, so that was a poor decision and a poor outcome on the Beeb's part.
I don't think it has, I think the bid team have distanced themselves massively from the report and quite frankly the out cry that might follow should England not win the bid and particularly if Spain/Portugal win the bid, may twist the arms of the executive members to vote in England's favour.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 04:42 AM   #1620
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The sooner the voting process is over and the WC has been awarded to Russia the better. Then all this cringeworthy stuff MysteryMike keeps on posting will stop. Have you got a Beckham bedspread Mike?
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